East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Wanderman68;2194882]Relatively speaking in comparison to Beijing. Beverly, Wenli, and Cathy are all sure bets that can not go wrong.[/QUOTE]Beverly, Maria, HuJing, Wenli, Cathy.

These are probably the most well known indies in Shanghai. I can personally vouch for the first 4. They speak English pretty well, they all have good attitudes (especially Beverly and Wenli). They will also book ST hotels for the date (I got the idea from Beverly, and then I proposed the idea to the other 3 and all went along with it). Beverly is famous for her BBBJ. It really is unbelievably good. You will pop, and then she rest with you, chat, and show you pictures on her cell phone. Then when you're ready, you boff for the 2nd pop. But Beverly has been at this for a long time and she has got to be in her early 40's now. She may be the most reviewed girl on the other famous escort review site. She is the epitome of spinner physique. Maybe 5 feet 2, and around 95 pounds. I already said Maria is almost 50 and HuJing is almost 40. I don't think HuJing is pretty, which is probably the real reason why she doesn't show her face on nightlife. Wenli has become well known in a short period of time, probably because a senior member vouched for her. She is very nice, but a little heavy, and also almost 40. I've never bothered meeting Cathy because her face does not look pretty to me. She seems famous mostly because of the kinky stuff that she'll do. They were good options during the crackdown. But since after the crackdown, I'm back to boffing girls in their 20's. As far as escort agencies, I no longer trust them ever since Steven and Judy (they ran a well known agency) got arrested.

[QUOTE=PlaceKicker;2194891]YMMV indeed, even more so than a Spring. Asked to use the shower so got one of the rooms on the upper floor, but got completely open-door. Normally wouldn't mind getting vegged provided it's reasonable, but for regular massage this place is ludicrously expensive. And she didn't do a particularly good job either. Gotten better before from bjmps, and those are generally the worst.[/QUOTE]I went there yesterday, after someone said he got FS there for 500 tip. This time, the boss was there, but as usual I got the room next to the shower upstairs. My provider was yet another older gal. She spent 70% of the time on my asshole, balls, and shaft. And after the flip, I asked if FS was available. She said no one offers FS at the shop. But asked me if I'the gotten FS before at the shop, indicating that maybe it's possible from another provider. Anyway, she wouldn't let me roam, probably because she had a bad body. The other old fatties let me handle their fat jugs. But again got a decent he. And no tip. So, not bad. You have to ask for the 60 minute 258 rmb lymph realease massage. Anyway, I don't think I'll go back there.

[QUOTE=AllForBb;2194771]"There are much better things to achieve in life". I agree, but it is irrelevant to discuss at this website.

About my personal numbers: majority of 3362 girls I fucked are in FKK; majority of 113 no condom sex are with KTV girls in Shanghai. Why Shanghai (not other city or places)? Because of the selections, easiness, and because I have a business in Shanghai too (convenient). Believe or not, we do not need to BSing or lying at this place. No need.

Good luck for your taking pleasure and releasing the pressure and much better things to achieve in your life.[/QUOTE]Why is your no condom sex number, 113, so low? You're over 65 (I read a few of your older posts). You must have had GFs, one night stands, and FWBs in the past, especially when you were a young lad in the 1970's. I'm early 50's, and I have had BB sex wth over 113 girls easily. Maybe a quarter of them when I was in college and another quarter immediately thereafter. This is before I discovered the convenience of P4 P. Anyway, I'm pretty sure almost everyone on here had BB sex with over 113 girls. Why is your number so low? I'm genuinely curious for some reason. Especially since you love it. I love it too, which is why I always try to have a few GFs on the side.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2195055]I went there yesterday, after someone said he got FS there for 500 tip. This time, the boss was there, but as usual I got the room next to the shower upstairs. My provider was yet another older gal. She spent 70% of the time on my asshole, balls, and shaft. And after the flip, I asked if FS was available. She said no one offers FS at the shop. But asked me if I'the gotten FS before at the shop, indicating that maybe it's possible from another provider. Anyway, she wouldn't let me roam, probably because she had a bad body. The other old fatties let me handle their fat jugs. But again got a decent he. And no tip. So, not bad. You have to ask for the 60 minute 258 rmb lymph realease massage. Anyway, I don't think I'll go back there.[/QUOTE]Did get 268 just for the record, so that's not the responsible factor. Could be provider. The veg part of the business probably accounts for the bulk of their income. So it's possible that some just don't do extra. Or could also be timing. There was at least one customer leaving around the time I showed up, and upon leaving a couple were coming in. If they're concerned with noise in the corridor, as someone else had suspected, you might not be able to get anywhere when other customers are around. Just so people know, if they're willing to chance it here.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2195052]Beverly, Maria, HuJing, Wenli, Cathy.

These are probably the most well known indies in Shanghai. I can personally vouch for the first 4. They speak English pretty well, they all have good attitudes (especially Beverly and Wenli). They will also book ST hotels for the date (I got the idea from Beverly, and then I proposed the idea to the other 3 and all went along with it). Beverly is famous for her BBBJ. It really is unbelievably good. You will pop, and then she rest with you, chat, and show you pictures on her cell phone. Then when you're ready, you boff for the 2nd pop. But Beverly has been at this for a long time and she has got to be in her early 40's now. She may be the most reviewed girl on the other famous escort review site. She is the epitome of spinner physique. Maybe 5 feet 2, and around 95 pounds. I already said Maria is almost 50 and HuJing is almost 40. I don't think HuJing is pretty, which is probably the real reason why she doesn't show her face on nightlife. Wenli has become well known in a short period of time, probably because a senior member vouched for her. She is very nice, but a little heavy, and also almost 40. I've never bothered meeting Cathy because her face does not look pretty to me. She seems famous mostly because of the kinky stuff that she'll do. They were good options during the crackdown. But since after the crackdown, I'm back to boffing girls in their 20's. As far as escort agencies, I no longer trust them ever since Steven and Judy (they ran a well known agency) got arrested.[/QUOTE]What's the best way to find girls in their 20's? Agencies are across the board disappointing. I guess that I have not realized how many years have passed since I have known these ladies. I highly recommend both Beverly and Wenli's BJ. Wenli is not heavy but a little meaty, which I like. Beverly's Greek is awesome. She moans like a tigress when speaking Greek.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2195107]Why is your no condom sex number, 113, so low? You're over 65 (I read a few of your older posts). You must have had GFs, one night stands, and FWBs in the past, especially when you were a young lad in the 1970's. I'm early 50's, and I have had BB sex wth over 113 girls easily. Maybe a quarter of them when I was in college and another quarter immediately thereafter. This is before I discovered the convenience of P4 P. Anyway, I'm pretty sure almost everyone on here had BB sex with over 113 girls. Why is your number so low? I'm genuinely curious for some reason. Especially since you love it. I love it too, which is why I always try to have a few GFs on the side.[/QUOTE]In early years, condoms were used for birth control mainly. Later, for safe sex mainly (HIV scares). Just recently, realized from scientific reports that the chance to catch HIV is very very low. I started BB sex just recently (about 2 years, 113 so far, will go faster I think), although total girls fucked so far is much more (362).

Other member (Sinofaguo) think my number is too high (BSing), but you are on other hand, think my number is too low. Funny. Please help me to convince him the BB sex is ok, and my number is not BSing. Indeed BB sex feel much better.

Technically, the joint on XianXia, but it's closed due to recent crackdown. They're running it out of a nightclub a few minutes away. You pick from line-up, then they transport you and the girl to a nearby hotel. Weird arrangement.

Bosses told me police have informed them they can reopen in about a week in their usual location. We'll see. Prices sky-high, but they say they are paying off all the top cops in the neighborhood. They apparently get advance warning when to shut down.

Anyway, got a very attractive 18 year old for 1,800. Looked like a girl about to start college. She was 8 xx category, with 6 xx girls at 1400 and 9 xx girls at 2200. Modest-sized boobs keeps her in the more affordable category, and I was happy not fork over any more than 1800 - would've been 900 for the same category a year ago. She was accommodating, but inexperienced.

We can only hope that pricing normalizes in the future.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2195052]Beverly, Maria, HuJing, Wenli, Cathy.

These are probably the most well known indies in Shanghai. I can personally vouch for the first 4. They speak English pretty well, they all have good attitudes (especially Beverly and Wenli). They will also book ST hotels for the date (I got the idea from Beverly, and then I proposed the idea to the other 3 and all went along with it). Beverly is famous for her BBBJ. It really is unbelievably good. You will pop, and then she rest with you, chat, and show you pictures on her cell phone. Then when you're ready, you boff for the 2nd pop. But Beverly has been at this for a long time and she has got to be in her early 40's now. She may be the most reviewed girl on the other famous escort review site. She is the epitome of spinner physique. Maybe 5 feet 2, and around 95 pounds. I already said Maria is almost 50 and HuJing is almost 40. I don't think HuJing is pretty, which is probably the real reason why she doesn't show her face on nightlife. Wenli has become well known in a short period of time, probably because a senior member vouched for her. She is very nice, but a little heavy, and also almost 40. I've never bothered meeting Cathy because her face does not look pretty to me. She seems famous mostly because of the kinky stuff that she'll do. They were good options during the crackdown. But since after the crackdown, I'm back to boffing girls in their 20's. As far as escort agencies, I no longer trust them ever since Steven and Judy (they ran a well known agency) got arrested.[/QUOTE]My additional 2 cents.

Wenli: got a few extra pounds but funny sense of humor, if chemistry good a reasonable choice.

Beverly: 5 stars, she has a routine and skills to rock you. A spinner MILF with skills that was perfected over decades. Last seen this last month and probably eating too much from he cooking classes, could lose a Kg or two to get back to where she was two years ago.

Maria: if pictures accidentally released on HK forum is not close to her NLO pictures.

Cathy: too bad she don't take ABC, oh well.

[QUOTE=AllForBb;2195238]In early years, condoms were used for birth control mainly. Later, for safe sex mainly (HIV scares). Just recently, realized from scientific reports that the chance to catch HIV is very very low. I started BB sex just recently (about 2 years, 113 so far, will go faster I think), although total girls fucked so far is much more (362).

Other member (Sinofaguo) think my number is too high (BSing), but you are on other hand, think my number is too low. Funny. Please help me to convince him the BB sex is ok, and my number is not BSing. Indeed BB sex feel much better.[/QUOTE]He thinks your number of BBFS with WGs is too high. I totally agree. I am sure almost everyone agrees.

[QUOTE=Wanderman68;2195226]What's the best way to find girls in their 20's?.[/QUOTE]Pre crackdown I did most of the SNG girls and Rain girls. Post crackdown I am now collecting as many girls' wechats as possible. Mostly MP girls. Believe it or not some are willing to meet me on their day off or before their shift at my hotel. And of course there's Manhattans and Judys for takeout but I can't do takeout because of my personal situation nor do I want to stay up past 11 pm. And saunas if you're willing to take the risk of a raid.

Several years ago, I signed up for WeChat. I forgot my password and am trying to get a code by SMS. But, the text doesn't arrive.

I am in the USA. Is this the reason I cannot get a text?

[QUOTE=Forest;2195366]Several years ago, I signed up for WeChat. I forgot my password and am trying to get a code by SMS. But, the text doesn't arrive.

I am in the USA. Is this the reason I cannot get a text?[/QUOTE]Depends on how you entered the number when you got wechat, did you put in the country code if outside China.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=Teltel;2195373]Depends on how you entered the number when you got wechat, did you put in the country code if outside China.

Teltel.[/QUOTE]Yes, I had the USA country code.

I finally remembered my password and got into WeChat. The app mystifies me. Once I got in, I couldn't see anyone but people in the USA (that would have been fine if the girls had been advertising services, but they did not appear to be). Half the time I ended up with screens in Chinese. I guess I have to be in China to see Chinese women, and that I won't be making plans to meet ladies before I go to Shanghai (that was my goal).

[QUOTE=Forest;2195512]Yes, I had the USA country code.

I finally remembered my password and got into WeChat. The app mystifies me. Once I got in, I couldn't see anyone but people in the USA (that would have been fine if the girls had been advertising services, but they did not appear to be). Half the time I ended up with screens in Chinese. I guess I have to be in China to see Chinese women, and that I won't be making plans to meet ladies before I go to Shanghai (that was my goal).[/QUOTE]No, you should be able to make plan in the US before you go to China, at least I can and I did last Month when I was in Beijing. Most of the Chinese girl can only speak and write in Chinese. You can use google translate to communicate with them.

Jb.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2195552]No, you should be able to make plan in the US before you go to China, at least I can and I did last Month when I was in Beijing. Most of the Chinese girl can only speak and write in Chinese. You can use google translate to communicate with them.

Jb.[/QUOTE]Wechat has built in translation capabilities. If you select the message you can then click translate and it will translate to the operating language for your phone. Much better then trying to use google translate when your in China as often google services require the use of VPN (at least that has been my experience, but my phone plan is with Chinese carrier so that may make a difference).