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Will spend Fri and Sat in NRW. Really don't expect any sausage fest any more. So which club can be a good choice?
GT and LR have good LU but really awful ratio during the peak time.
Aca ratio is good but LU is not that good.
I'm thinking about two Koln clubs, Babylon and Samya or DV AG Ocean or even YY?
Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2105905]If we look back commments here for the past many years, there were complaints about DFK and DATY not freely provided in 50 E sessions, or some girls demanding extra money. Such complaints are continually increasing. If inflation is non-zero and price is kept constant, quality of the product or service is logically going to decline, and has.[/QUOTE]At Oase and Palace, there were always complaints. Sharks much less so, until recently. I think the complaints are continually increasing because it is gotten noticeably worse in the last two years. Mandy, who gives good service for 50 EUR, is spoken about like she is a unicorn.
Sharks has risen in popularity the last two years, which has allowed the WGs to be more selective. Some WGs would rather sit bored for 3-4 hours, refusing low-value, too-demanding customers, because they are confident that a whale will soon arrive.
The general service degradation over last decade, could be explained by inflation, but not sure about the degradation over the last two years. Inflation in Germany was near zero for 2015 and 2016. And low (or negative) throughout all of the Eurozone.
[QUOTE=ZotzMan;2105946]Are clubs deserted during the first week of January, can I still have a good time? Mistakenly booked flights without checking this board first. Then I found out about Orthodox Christmas on Jan 7! Seriously debating canceling.[/QUOTE]Zotzman,
If you like adventure, do not hesitate and just go. Holiday time and especially the 1. Of January 2018 are variables that could probably provide for less choice. But Berlin is always worth a trip. (I'm not paid to write this, I'm just a customer).
If you want to play it safe then postpone your trip by a few weeks. But even in a desert you will find water and besides you could be "the first man on the moon".
Members with great experience will give you useful hints. I am convinced of that and would like to ask for it.
PumDiPimp.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2106149]Respectfully, my personal view of the situation is that reporting has limited the BBBJ available quite a lot already. The more reports, the harder it will be to get it. But there is always a lag in the system.[/QUOTE]Where has BBBJ been significantly diminished relative to what was offered before the law?
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2106526]Zotzman,
If you like adventure, do not hesitate and just go. Holiday time and especially the 1. Of January 2018 are variables that could probably provide for less choice. But Berlin is always worth a trip. (I'm not paid to write this, I'm just a customer).
If you want to play it safe then postpone your trip by a few weeks. But even in a desert you will find water and besides you could be "the first man on the moon".
Members with great experience will give you useful hints. I am convinced of that and would like to ask for it.
PumDiPimp.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response PumDiPump. After checking past years of the FKK forums, I garnered a few useful anecdotes about early Jan that I'll like to share:
1. Most girls will return by January 20th-ish. A few of the popular tourist-oriented clubs (EG. Sharks, Oase?) even paid girls a bonus to stay till Jan 4 in previous years presumably due to tourist demand. And presumably girls leave Jan 5 onwards just in time for Orthodox Christmas.
2. More Romanians in FRA than NRW, so NRW might still have a good LU.
With these factors in mind, I'm going to postpone to late January. Taking precious little time off from work is more valuable to me than the cost of the flights (a luxury I'm grateful to have).
Samya and Acapulco at least in the first days.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2105812]But many of these girls share their income with their boyfriends.[/QUOTE]"Share their income" is a strong understatement in many cases, especially for the younger girls. They work for years and when the BF dumps them because his "share" is not what it used to be, they are left with nothing.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2106541]Where has BBBJ been significantly diminished relative to what was offered before the law?[/QUOTE]I have just spent over ten days visiting Sharks and Oase. I had 20+ sessions with over 15 different girls. Every single time, BBBJ was offered freely, casually even automatically. There was absolutely no issue. Like always, BBBJ was the default mode. Only once did a girl (a very young new arrival from Rom) politely ask: "Do you prefer mit gummi or ohne (without)?" I said, "Do it like Eve to Adam, all natural, baby. " She complied immediately and with a smile. No issue.
These last ten days have convinced me that there has been little to no change at the two larger Hessen clubs. Also I firmly believe that the issue is being over-hyped by some posters here and that discussions about in this forum will have zero effect on what happens in the future one way or the other.
Nevertheless, because I always leave open the possibility that I might be wrong, I will avoid mentioning specific girls by name in reference to this service.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2106610]"Share their income" is a strong understatement in many cases, especially for the younger girls. They work for years and when the BF dumps them because his "share" is not what it used to be, they are left with nothing.[/QUOTE]It is probably really hard to generalise what you are saying. Sure it may happen, but your version is quite low on the details. Many girls who has been long in the business tells me they were the ones who dumped their boyfriends. Of course this could also be lies. Then again, all these girls were girls I would consider to be among the hot ones. Perhaps it is different for the ones making less money.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2106669]I have just spent over ten days visiting Sharks and Oase. I had 20+ sessions with over 15 different girls. Every single time, BBBJ was offered freely, casually even automatically. There was absolutely no issue. Like always, BBBJ was the default mode. Only once did a girl (a very young new arrival from Rom) politely ask: "Do you prefer mit gummi or ohne (without)?" I said, "Do it like Eve to Adam, all natural, baby. " She complied immediately and with a smile. No issue.
These last ten days have convinced me that there has been little to no change at the two larger Hessen clubs. Also I firmly believe that the issue is being over-hyped by some posters here and that discussions about in this forum will have zero effect on what happens in the future one way or the other.
Nevertheless, because I always leave open the possibility that I might be wrong, I will avoid mentioning specific girls by name in reference to this service.[/QUOTE]You are right just need to have a short look on my reports, if you are a clean man a little bit sexy no change but if you are the type of guy the girls don't like there will be a big change.
[QUOTE=ZotzMan;2106558]And presumably girls leave Jan 5 onwards just in time for Orthodox Christmas.[/QUOTE]The Romanians and Bulgarians celebrate Christmas as per the Gregorian calendar (25th December), unlike most other Orthodox majority countries.
[QUOTE=ZotzMan;2106558]Thanks for your response PumDiPump. After checking past years of the FKK forums, I garnered a few useful anecdotes about early Jan that I'll like to share:
1. Most girls will return by January 20th-ish. A few of the popular tourist-oriented clubs (EG. Sharks, Oase?) even paid girls a bonus to stay till Jan 4 in previous years presumably due to tourist demand. And presumably girls leave Jan 5 onwards just in time for Orthodox Christmas.
2. More Romanians in FRA than NRW, so NRW might still have a good LU.
With these factors in mind, I'm going to postpone to late January. Taking precious little time off from work is more valuable to me than the cost of the flights (a luxury I'm grateful to have).[/QUOTE]Let us make it simple, many girls will leave around the 20 of December and come back around the 10 to 15 of January but this year will be special due to registration obligation I think that some girls will leave latter and not come back.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2106692]but your version is quite low on the details. Many girls who has been long in the business tells me they were the ones who dumped their boyfriends. [/QUOTE]Should I mention names? The list would contain quite a few of the ISG superstars at all clubs in Germany, Globe etc. Nothing to discuss on a public board. I said younger girls. So having been long in the business and dumping their BF probably makes them a little older.
How many girls who have a BF setting them a target per day will admit and talk about it to a client, usually a stranger? Not that many I guess.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2106610]"Share their income" is a strong understatement in many cases, especially for the younger girls. They work for years and when the BF dumps them because his "share" is not what it used to be, they are left with nothing.[/QUOTE]What does the guy give in return to the girl?
If the guy doesn't need to give anything back, why do they bother dumping the girl? Free money is free money, even if the amount is getting smaller; no?!
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2106743]Should I mention names? The list would contain quite a few of the ISG superstars at all clubs in Germany, Globe etc. Nothing to discuss on a public board. I said younger girls. So having been long in the business and dumping their BF probably makes them a little older.
How many girls who have a BF setting them a target per day will admit and talk about it to a client, usually a stranger? Not that many I guess.[/QUOTE]Of course, we may never know anything we hear from the girls themselves. Then again, how come you know? I've seen single girls working in FKK's fishing for boyfriends on facebook even too. There is hardly any set standard rules in this game. But of course many things makes sense. What you say is just one. No need to mention names, but you are right in that all the girls I was thinking of is at least 26.