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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2106808]If the guy doesn't need to give anything back, why do they bother dumping the girl? [/QUOTE]It's easy to find a new, better performing girl. And the older the girls get, the more self-confident they get and the less easy they are manipulated.
Same, except I was in NRW area. Zero difference in BBBJ availability between now and past visits. People need to find something else to talk about. This topic has been beaten to death.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2106669]I have just spent over ten days visiting Sharks and Oase. I had 20+ sessions with over 15 different girls. Every single time, BBBJ was offered freely, casually even automatically. There was absolutely no issue. Like always, BBBJ was the default mode. Only once did a girl (a very young new arrival from Rom) politely ask: "Do you prefer mit gummi or ohne (without)?" I said, "Do it like Eve to Adam, all natural, baby. " She complied immediately and with a smile. No issue.
These last ten days have convinced me that there has been little to no change at the two larger Hessen clubs. Also I firmly believe that the issue is being over-hyped by some posters here and that discussions about in this forum will have zero effect on what happens in the future one way or the other.
Nevertheless, because I always leave open the possibility that I might be wrong, I will avoid mentioning specific girls by name in reference to this service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;2106869]Of course, we may never know anything we hear from the girls themselves. Then again, how come you know? I've seen single girls working in FKK's fishing for boyfriends on facebook even too. There is hardly any set standard rules in this game. But of course many things makes sense. What you say is just one. No need to mention names, but you are right in that all the girls I was thinking of is at least 26.[/QUOTE]I will try to make a kind of summary after 15 years of FKK visits, probably 80 visits a years mostly in Hessen clubs. I spent also 100 nights with the FKK girls outside the clubs, 30 days of holidays, 3 birthdays party and 2 Christmas eve. 90% of the girls are from Romania, 60% may be more have a husband or a boyfriend, 99% or more have not pleasure to be fucked and for them be a prostitute is more or less like a normal job, 90% of the girls have a big problem with her family background, 99% of the girls are lazy and for them earning money with their body is far easier than to have normal job.
Is there any graduate from university working in a club, no despite what some of us are thinking, behind the doors of a club there is nothing very sexy, I never wish that a girls from my relatives have to work as a prostitute.
There's girls at Mainhattan, Oase and Palace, occasionally at Sharks and World asking for 50€ extra or a full 60 min session for BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2106669]I have just spent over ten days visiting Sharks and Oase. I had 20+ sessions with over 15 different girls. Every single time, BBBJ was offered freely, casually even automatically. There was absolutely no issue. Like always, BBBJ was the default mode. Only once did a girl (a very young new arrival from Rom) politely ask: "Do you prefer mit gummi or ohne (without)?" I said, "Do it like Eve to Adam, all natural, baby. " She complied immediately and with a smile. No issue.
These last ten days have convinced me that there has been little to no change at the two larger Hessen clubs. Also I firmly believe that the issue is being over-hyped by some posters here and that discussions about in this forum will have zero effect on what happens in the future one way or the other.
Nevertheless, because I always leave open the possibility that I might be wrong, I will avoid mentioning specific girls by name in reference to this service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for adding to the growing body of evidence that this new law has been largely ineffective.
But then you actually help make it effective by undermining the quality of the board, giving in to what they count on. Fear.
You say it's out of concern, but if you are so risk averse you probably shouldn't be getting BB services in the first place.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2107204]Thanks for adding to the growing body of evidence that this new law has been largely ineffective.
But then you actually help make it effective by undermining the quality of the board, giving in to what they count on. Fear.
You say it's out of concern, but if you are so risk averse you probably shouldn't be getting BB services in the first place.[/QUOTE]Again and again but I think that nobody is reading my reports, the target of the new law was not to stop BBBJ this was only the cosmetic approach to make it acceptable for the girls, the main target is to reduce the offer and you will to feel the things beginning of January when the registration will be compulsory. Nobody cares if you get a BBBJ or not knowing that the risk to get sick is 0.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2107204]Thanks for adding to the growing body of evidence that this new law has been largely ineffective.
But then you actually help make it effective by undermining the quality of the board, giving in to what they count on. Fear.
You say it's out of concern, but if you are so risk averse you probably shouldn't be getting BB services in the first place.[/QUOTE]Wtf? Do you even think before you post things or do you just automatically end your posts writing complete rubbish that makes you seem to an utter ******* Kluegscheisser? Your response to my attempt to provide useful information is quite arrogant and full of assumptions.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2106808]What does the guy give in return to the girl?
[/QUOTE]RogueNation echoes a common narrative. Loverboy finds a young girl with low-self esteem, brainwashes her, and before long, she is selling her body in return for love from her BF. A second narrative is that her "BF" is actually her boss, who reports up to another boss. If the police harass her, she is instructed to give them the "BF story", maybe even show a few fake FB photos. In both cases, authorities suspect that the alleged BF is not acting alone, and has ties to criminal organizations. The legalization of prostitution was supposed to root out these criminal underbellies, but both Netherlands and Germany have realized that they haven't. These criminal organizations have considerable resources and influence in her corrupt country, so in some ways, your question is like asking: what do citizens get from their government when they pay their taxes?
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If the guy doesn't need to give anything back, why do they bother dumping the girl? Free money is free money, even if the amount is getting smaller; no?![/QUOTE]If the BF's stable grew too large, his risk profile would be bigger, so he might as RogueNation says, look for a replacement.
Amsterdam mayor on organized crime and links to prostitution:
[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24amsterdam.html[/URL]
Kriminalpolizei Augsburg on "pimp gangs":
[URL]https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg[/URL]
[QUOTE=Ortos;2107310]Wtf? Do you even think before you post things or do you just automatically end your posts writing complete rubbish that makes you seem to an utter ******* Kluegscheisser? Your response to my attempt to provide useful information is quite arrogant and full of assumptions.[/QUOTE]Carry on with your posts as you think fit and don't take any notice of self-appointed judges
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2107322]RogueNation echoes a common narrative. [/QUOTE]Excuse my bad English. Does narrative in this context imply that it is fiction or tales only?
Lads,
With the view on this forum that Mutti Merkel's Refugee Policy will eventually lead to more exotic beautiful ladies gracing FKK Clubs, I paid special attention to up and coming Afghani-British PornStar _ Yameena Ali. She's actually based in Bratislava.
[URL]https://www.youporn.com/watch/13640793/brief-encounters-yasmeena-ali/[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/Yasmeenamodel[/URL]
And she squirts -.
[URL]https://www.faketaxi.com/tour/video/78501/squirting-screaming-taxi-orgasms/[/URL]
And it seems she does shoots with amateurs.
[URL]http://www.istudio.com/40685[/URL]
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2107411]Excuse my bad English. Does narrative in this context imply that it is fiction or tales only?[/QUOTE]It implies that there is a "story", which may or may not be completely true, or which may appear different to different observers. Using the term "narrative" suggests that the information may be especially biased, or composed towards a goal.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2106869]Of course, we may never know anything we hear from the girls themselves. [b]Then again, how come you know?[/b] I've seen single girls working in FKK's fishing for boyfriends on facebook even too. There is hardly any set standard rules in this game. But of course many things makes sense. What you say is just one. No need to mention names, but you are right in that all the girls I was thinking of is at least 26.[/QUOTE]Having been in this hobby for many years, having close contact to a lot of working or ex working girls.
It seems as if it's not at all guaranteed that Mutti Merkel will be back as chancellor as The Liberals are siting irreconcilable differences between them and The CDU.
[URL]https://uk.news.yahoo.com/german-parties-pain-threshold-immigration-coalition-talks-134519568--business.html[/URL]
Both the Liberals and The Greens would have opposed the new daft sex laws. However, that isn't the issue at the moment.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2107635]Having been in this hobby for many years, having close contact to a lot of working or ex working girls.[/QUOTE]OK, well. Look at my post in the lounge thread.