Manila

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1543628]I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.

The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.[/QUOTE]Concur. When pinay want to be on time, they are on time (or even hours early). I would guess that 99% of Filipino that have purchased a cap and gown are on time for their college graduation. That "time-challenged" trait seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong) to be ingrained in many of the places the spaniards conquered (the latin-americas) where I've visited, not just pilipines. However, the idea that pinoy "can't be on time", or that "you can't overcome their culture" (have been told that on this board and especially in PM, on other boards, in emails and by numerous gents sitting in places like Kokomo's and MBC / LAC) , might be incorrect. Their culture is not to be late. Nor to be on time. Its a dichotomous issue. For some events they are late, and other events they will specifically be on time (or early). I'm not necessarily good at stating which events, but I'm good at stating one of those events: spending time with me. I have a method (not stated here, the method brings out harsh opinions) which has reduced tardiness in returnees to almost zero, and cut way down on tardiness from first-time girls.

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet; 1543403]Guys,

Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.

The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?

Thanks,

Friendly[/QUOTE]3000 is fine all in.

Actually it's pretty good.

If you got her at 2500 or 2000 still need to tip her at least 1000.

If you work the price down too much you might have to tip the boys working there too.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1541954]I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.

The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.

She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why...[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree sir!

I know the game in the Phils and I was not disappointed.

Girl 2 who showed up turned into a real blessing.

For every girl who wants to bring a friend or uncle, there is 20 that are pro's who will not bring a friend or uncle (no thanks) , but what I am looking for and found was the 5 who are non-pro's who will come alone and be the real deal.

Pics later, she will be called Girl 2. (Having real issues trying to upload pics on the website. Real sticky to do so).

Girl 2. A real keeper. Recently unemployed at Robinson's, but got a job in Makati while I was there. This girl works for a living. Does not text me like a crazy bansi every 5 minutes, awesome sense of humor and loves getting fucked. First time I came in 5 minutes and she says I was too fast. Next time I took a blue pill and after 20 minutes she says I was to long! Haha. Take that you LBFM.

My advice is if it smells (bringing uncle whatever, drama, etc) dump them as fast as you can. There is 1000 more girls out there that you will find and who will give you what you want. It just takes patience and takes going through the list to eleiminate the dumbasses.

That's what I do and every time I eventually find it.

This time it was literally girl #2, sometimes it takes me longer than that.

Often times I will fuck them and realize that this is not the girl for this trip. Move on to the next one.

This Girl 2 met me again when I returned to Manila for 3 days at the end of the trip. We did not stray far from the hotel because it had a beautiful pool and of course free wifi. Give the girl free wifi and she is happy for days on end. You are happy because you got in-house pussy on demand.

I gave Girl 2 transport on the first visit and fed her.

The 2nd visit (upon my return from around the provinces) I fed her, bought her a t-shirt and gave her 2000p to buy a new cord for her iphone.

Seriously, we go to Robinsons and I tell her to buy whatever she wants.

She picks a 600p t-shirt! I love this girl.

Not very much outlay for happy, non-drama days in Manila.

As we know, everything else about Manila sucks.

I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]DesiDownUnder, I suggest you to RTFF.

If you don't know what RTFF means then go to your ISG menu bar and under "Abbreviations" you will see that RTFF means Read the Fucking Forum. There are a few guys like you who want a potted answer but too lazy to look at the information already posted. There are a lot of guys who have in their ISG postings gone to a lot of effort to report their "must go" and "cannot miss" opinions. It is for you to judge and shape up your own "must go" places. And when you do go to these and other places please do provide your feedback report in this forum so it may help guys like you.

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]An ATM and a CR meet both of those, surely. Everything else is subject to your whims, fancies, biases, proclivities and appetites.

Read the board. Really.

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]where's the Unlike, don't Like, Dislike, Will Never Like, Totally Really don't Like, For Gods Sake I don't Like This Post, button?

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]The immigration booth at Terminal 1

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.

Definitely get a hotel room. I don't recommend putting up a tent somewhere. LOL

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1546915]Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.[/QUOTE]Also McDo, KFC, lechon stands in the main road, Somai stalls, money exchange unless you think the Aussie dollar is the currency of choice in the Philippines.

Agree with earlier comments and a quick review of Desi's FRs suggest he asks a lot but gives very little back. Give and take Desi, you give first before you take.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1546948]Give and take Desi, you give first before you take.[/QUOTE]I don't mind a bloke asking a question w / o first giving a decent FR, but his questions were those of someone who put in zero effort. To which I say... "Fuck that!"

Anyway, to Desi I say, "Bon appetite." Sorry no one here could even tell you of a decent curry house to visit. Actually they could, but no one could be bothered.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1546915]Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.[/QUOTE]To Freebie Fan.

You should add the Toilet to the list Downunder will need it after eating at this place.

Fast Eddie 48

I have previously reported on my experiences in Angeles City. Here is finally a summary of my impressions from Manila, where I actually spent more time than in Angeles City, but burdened with non-mongering commitments. One of the challenges was that I was staying in the Ortigas area. Mongering options there were as far as I could work out non-existent. So I had to trek through heavy traffic to one of the other locations for any action. By 10 pm this was not so bad (though not so great either).

EDSA.

I first tried the EDSA complex of girlie bars. As far as I remember bar fine + payment to girl came to PHP 5000, not including tip. So it is not cheap, basically one easily ends up spending something like USD 100 on each girl. However, there are many girls to choose from, and there are many young, attractive, friendly girls. Once I took a girl from EDSA in a taxi back to my far away hotel. A few other times I just crossed the road (heavy traffic) to the SOGO short time hotel, where not fancy but perfectly ok rooms with clean linen could be had for PHP 600 for three hours.

An exotic thing about the SOGO hotel across the road from EDSA is that part of it is a drive-in hotel. Basically you can come in your car, order a room without getting out, drive into a garage complex on the ground floor where there are 20-30 individual garages, shutter your car in your own private little garage and take a private staircase to your private room on the second floor. I have never seen anything like this, must be convenient for locals who are well known and don't want to be recognized.

I have had five or so threesomes in my life, including a couple of genuine amateur ones with friends in my home country. I have always found them either uninspiring or even miserable experiences where it is impossible to establish a proper rapport with one's sexual partners. So I avoid them like the pest. But at EDSA two girls and a very sympathetic (I. E. With a good vibe with the girls and with me) mamasan managed to talk me into taking two girls for a threesome at a slight discount rate (I think it was a total of PHP 4000 for each girl). They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.

They gave me the only good threesome I have ever had. They hardly chattered among themselves, except for a few brief moments followed by excited giggles. With some guidance, they did everything I wanted them to, making it what (I think) a threesome should be. Endless threeway DFK with lots of trilateral facial licking and saliva exchange. I got them to blow me together. They started doing it not quite how I wanted, one sucking my balls while the other sucked my shaft, or one using the hand while they other sucked. But when I finally got the idea across to them they seemed to enjoy doing it, I. E. Sliding up and down each their own side of the shaft, French kissing three ways again at the top (with my dick as the third kisser) and competing to suck the head in. While doing one in mish, I got the other to lie body to body with me on my back and do the thrusting, essentially using me to fuck her friend. Towards the end of the session one of them spotted a little from the intensive sex (which I don't mind at all, as I am neither suicidal nor a murderer and always use a condom). So after reassuring her that it was absolutely ok, I said that she should nonetheless be punished. So we enjoyed a little bondage and rough sex with one of the girls and me ganging up on the other, tying her wrists lightly with a soft belt from a dressing gown, pushing her head into the bed, lightly grasping her throat, holding her ankles tight and some hard fucking. They loved it. I was glad to be of service :) Afterwards they lay around half on top of me catching their breath, stroking me lovingly.

Across the road from EDSA are two hotels, Heritage and Copacabana Apartment Hotel. Both would be very noisy places due to the heavy traffic. A couple more blocks away around a corner is Hotel Midas, perhaps with less traffic noise. I didn't stay in any of them. Heritage seemed a better hotel than Copacabana, and more expensive.

In the area around EDSA are several other mongering options, small rough places with mostly locals (friendly towards me) , a rip off strip club next to EDSA which also had some very unattractive Russians, and so on. Interesting to explore, but I am not sure any of them are worth it when you have EDSA at hand.

I also tried taking the public transport rail (MRT or LRT) from Ortigas to EDSA. It was perfectly ok, but that was in the afternoon. Another day I saw queues literally several blocks long during rush hour. There is also an MRT / LRT line in the direction of LA Café, so in theory you could also use it to commute along that axis as long as you don't get stuck in the the queues.

Café Havana.

I also visited Café Havana. This was at the beginning of my trip and I left quickly and empty-handed. Most of the seating is outdoors in a nice, secluded, leafy area (behind a mall?). It felt more like a nice regular bar scene and most people seemed to be sitting around at tables with friends (often male) , so it seemed difficult to approach girls. Perhaps it was too early in the evening. This was at the beginning of my trip, so I was jetlagged and perhaps also had not built up enough self-confidence for this sort of operation yet. Also I wanted much action quickly and therefore did not have time for long plays. Had I had the possibility I probably would have returned later on. Amazing what a week or two with willing prostitutes can do with your self-confidence.

Burgos.

I never went to Burgos Street, though I drove past once in the daytime. As far as I could make out from RTFF it is expensive there.

LA Cafe.

I also went several times to LA Café (previously Manila Bay Cafee or MBC for a period). It is two floors with 3-4 rooms with a grungy, rock'and'roll bar feel. I was not overly impressed. Most of the girls are not so young, not so attractive, have given birth. There are a few prettier, younger ones, but they also tend to be a bit standoffish. I tended to walk and walk in circles trying to find someone, but then my walking and stares would attract attention. I took out a couple of girls from there, one was a pleasant MILF with whom I could have had a nice relationship for some time, but it simply was not my game. I also wandered the surrounding streets, full of beggars and homeless families (some with small children) at night. A bit depressing, but grungy and interesting. I looked into a bunch of other places in the vicinity. None of them were really impressive. Amazonia or whatever it is called about a block away from LA Café was quite a big place, but I never saw any interesting women there, more like the 30-45 year old bracket. I spent a couple of hours wandering the Robinsons mall a few blocks away, tried hitting on a couple of girls there, but no success. I was dead tired at the time, which may not have helped. I picked up one girl who looked young who was being pimped by a toothless homeless person. At first I was really in doubt about whether to dare or not, feared all kinds of troubles including her age and hygiene and health. But it turned out she was fine, just a regular 21 year old girl who had somehow gotten into this strange situation, very pleasant to be around. Had I not been about to leave I would have met up with her again.

Returning from an unsuccessful wandering of smaller girlie bars a few blocks away to LA Café, I saw a pretty face by the door to a small, anonymous bar. I approached her. It seemed more like drinking hole than a girlie bar. But her face was so beguiling I ended up letting her pull me into the bar. There was a partial karaoke set up (for one person at a time to sing for the whole bar) , a good few customers, including some locals. Many drunk. She wanted me to buy a drink, then her friend, then her other friend too. They also wanted me to buy some food. Red warning lamps were flashing (about wasting my time and money) , I vaguely tried to leave a couple of times, but they managed to reign me in every time – luckily. I was trying to get the door girl to go with me. At first she was coy, not allowed to go with customers, had to stay at work until 2 am etc. But then, seemingly after some consultations with her friends, the conversation changed. They were all from a different city, rented cheap digs way out of town, so could all three of them come and stay with me when they finished work at 2 am? WTF? They seemed so innocent, would I be setting myself up for a frigid night with these three angels? That would probably be tree times as bad as a frigid night with one woman. And as mentioned I don't like multi-somes anyway. So I tried to bring some clarity into things. My door girl would have sex with me, her friend too, but not the third friend. What exactly the sex would be like was difficult to work out.

They were all 18, sexy, enthusiastic, inexperienced. In the end I wanted them so badly I promised them PHP 3000 each if they would meet up later (for those who had sex with me). This was to make sure they had an incentive to keep our appointment. Sorry about the overspending, but I wanted this badly and I also didn't have time to be stood up. They did not want to meet at the bar, so we agree to meet at a different place nearby. So I went off wandering, had a quickie with a woman from LA Café and then went to the meeting place and lo and behold there they were. We went back to my nearby hotel, which for the last couple of nights I had moved down to that area of town (Riviera Mansions – cheap, good location, clean enough, wifi sucks, queues for the under-dimensioned lifts). Although the hotel was girl friendly, I was not quite sure how the doorman would feel about t h are e e 18 year olds, so I gave him a little warning in advance and slipped him a nice tip. He was cool with it, and appreciated the tip.

I still did not know what the girls were really thinking in terms of sex. We got up to the room, we had bought some food and (non-alcoholic) drink on the way, but had had lots of beers in the bar and ended up having a little party. Great atmosphere. Lots of fun and laughter. Selfies (some of which I have uploaded in the photos thread). Then time to go to bed. The (seemingly) bad news: turned out they did not intend to have sex all at the same time. The good news: number three wanted to have sex after all. So we were going to have a serial foursome. Two and two would go to the bathroom and giggle, while I did their friend, then they changed places.

Each one of them was different. The tallest, toughest of them in the bar, turned out to be the shyest in bed. She had only had sex a few times with a boyfriend, and only a couple years ago. She was basically semi-virgin (not my thing, but it does have a beauty). She cried a little, perhaps partly because of the pain, but seemingly at least as much because she was afraid of 'failing' in front of her friends. I offered several times to stop, explained that I would still pay, but she wanted me to do it. I treated her as gently as I could. It was a sweet séance.

The next girl was 'number three', who turned out to be the more experienced (she had a boyfriend, which was why she didn't want to go with me at first). Nice, albeit simple, sex, with some passion. Good French kissing, clinging to me, nice thrusting and grinding, appreciated DATY.

Last I had my initial favorite, the door girl. Her belly was a bit more flabby than I appreciate, but her face was divine and she was nice in bed and really tuned in to me.

None of them gave me a blowjob (nor did I ask for one) and the sex was nothing sophisticated or wild, very non-PSE. It was one of those situations where I was thinking, hell, they should be paying me. But the aesthetics of servicing a queue of pretty, enthusiastic. 18-year olds with a great relationship among themselves was a real high. I treated them as nicely as I could, trying to gauge what they wanted. Afterwards they were so grateful. The door girl still writes to me, says she misses me, and her friends miss me too :) After I had done them all thoroughly, which took a good while, they wanted to leave after all. I was half disappointed – it would have been nice to sleep entangled with those three nymphs – but also half relieved, I probably wouldn't have slept much at all, and I really needed to sleep the remaining couple of hours until I had to get up.

Condoms

In both the EDSA threesome and the LA Café area serial foursome I made sure to switch condoms between the girls. I knew they might be reluctant to ask me to do so, as they might fear that their friends would feel that they were casting doubt on them. So I made sure myself that the condom was changed each time without any questions asked. I think that is the right thing to do.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1547161]To Freebie Fan.

You should add the Toilet to the list Downunder will need it after eating at this place.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I think between us, we have hit on a new way to answer the plonkers who ask such questions. I'm laughing even if he isn't.