Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]I'm really starting to think ISG is being taken over by a bunch of cheap ass, old men that only use this board to save $20 a night on a hotel or to find a $15 hourly gf rate. Quality of reporting around the world really has went down hill over the past 5 years.[/QUOTE]The whole world is enjoying this process of "De-qualifying" levels into cheap. Cheap. Cheap. Low csot flights, low cost hotels, low cost WG. Everybody is obsessed by all this and this is the result.

Then we can discuss for ages on the specific mongering world, but it seems it is not any different than the "outside" world.

I have a few thoughts on who started all this (ie the market and the industry) but it'd be OT and also will raise somne flaming and useless debate, so I stop it here.

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. .[/QUOTE]Do not forget that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So go imagine a 50+ chap (I am 50+) coming from a western country, maybe a country where access to ladies is difficult for various reasons, including the social and financial status of the guy.

This chap, maybe a bit of a cheap charlie at home, maybe induced also by his earnings and job, will meet a 30 to 35+ thai lady who is ready to go with him (closing her eyes? Money talks?). He is delighted and rates her a stunner as at home no woman of that age is not only available but still has a decent body (when dressed) , will not dress in a kinkyand sexy way (showing off legs, amber skin, high heels, a bit of a slutty attitude: don't we men al like a horny lady aside us?) being touchy and flirting and so on so on. No western WG will be like that, they are all "wham bam thank you ma'm"

Those guys will open their heart (and wallet, whatever it contains) to these girls.

Have a look at the guys walking around (I see this in BKK) with their western ladies (wifes etc). No wonder why a 35+ tahi lady is a stunner (to their eyes) I comparison with the everyday partner. Not to mention the sexavailaibility you can get from a WG compared with the one from the lady walking buy.

I am always wodnering what goes in the head of the wifes when are walking around BKK or Beach Road and see these couples of uncle (he looks like her husband) and nieces (from Thailand) Do they feel the competition they are engaged? Do they have a clue on what is going on (certainly they do)? Will they let the husband coming alone in a trip to LOS?

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]. There are so many she boys in this town, it is just out right the nasty place I have been too in the world.[/QUOTE]It is true that there is a high percentage of ladyboys in Thailand, the reasons are many and this is not the right palce to debate. But if many of them hit the roads it is not only for they own earnings, but as there is a market for them too. So check the guy sitting next to you in the plane. Maybe he goes there for taht! LOL

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[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. I have been in Pattaya for only 1 night, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have been around the world. So far this place has to be the most over rated on quality I have been too.[/QUOTE]You are right on, Dmd Joe, too many people looking for cheap deals and easily satisified. I have not been to Pattaya lately, last time I went, about 10 years ago, I was not impressed. The only good looking girls I saw at that time were in some karaok. I don't know how it works since I don't speak Thai, so I didn't go, but overall when I walked through all the go go bars and all those walking around the Marriot, I was not able to find a single girl can compared with what I typically find in China, like Dongguan.

This time I am coming into town taking my 8+ Chinese GF with me, since she was pretty sure I will just enjoy Pattaya without looking at any other girls there. But if you have found some club / bar with good looking girls, I will be interested too, since my GF will be willing to do 3some if the other girl is beautiful as well.

I have not found any post about karaok / KTV in Pattaya, but I bet all the good looking girls work inside those places only.

OS

[QUOTE=Old South; 1417293]You are right on, Dmd Joe, too many people looking for cheap deals and easily satisified. I have not been to Pattaya lately, last time I went, about 10 years ago, I was not impressed. The only good looking girls I saw at that time were in some karaok. I don't know how it works since I don't speak Thai, so I didn't go, but overall when I walked through all the go go bars and all those walking around the Marriot, I was not able to find a single girl can compared with what I typically find in China, like Dongguan.

This time I am coming into town taking my 8+ Chinese GF with me, since she was pretty sure I will just enjoy Pattaya without looking at any other girls there. But if you have found some club / bar with good looking girls, I will be interested too, since my GF will be willing to do 3some if the other girl is beautiful as well.

I have not found any post about karaok / KTV in Pattaya, but I bet all the good looking girls work inside those places only.

OS[/QUOTE]To OLD south

If you are not Impressed 10 yr ago you will not like it now Pattaya is worst than 10 yr ago everything cost much more and girl quality is worst and why even come here and bring your hot girl friend from China what is your point, Pattaya is a place monger come here to get cheap sex you better off take her to Shanghai or Bejing or even stay in CP to get a hot KTV girl there for your 3some travel all the way to Pattaya for that DUMB DUMB and STUPID.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1417318]To OLD south

If you are not Impressed 10 yr ago you will not like it now Pattaya is worst than 10 yr ago everything cost much more and girl quality is worst and why even come here and bring your hot girl friend from China what is your point, Pattaya is a place monger come here to get cheap sex you better off take her to Shanghai or Bejing or even stay in CP to get a hot KTV girl there for your 3some travel all the way to Pattaya for that DUMB DUMB and STUPID.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I am a former regular visitor to Thailand but stopped going there and started visiting China instead a little over ten years ago. I found the Chinese girls more beautiful. However, it is more expensive in China and the girl's attitudes are not as good as in Thailand, so overall I would not say that the experience in China is better than Thailand.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1417414]I am a former regular visitor to Thailand but stopped going there and started visiting China instead a little over ten years ago. I found the Chinese girls more beautiful. However, it is more expensive in China and the girl's attitudes are not as good as in Thailand, so overall I would not say that the experience in China is better than Thailand.[/QUOTE]Plus the girls in China don't have asses like the girl in Thailand!

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. I have been in Pattaya for only 1 night, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have been around the world. So far this place has to be the most over rated on quality I have been too. I went through the posts, walked around, went in places, and the best I found was maybe a fugly 5 at most.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I think the problem is not with your eyes, but with your attention span here in Pattaya. If you ask Amex Spg (need to PM) , he will e-mail you his previous report where I found his friend 13 VERY pretty. I wish he could have introduced us, but he left not waiting for me to come. How unfortunate for me.

Anyhow, it is much harder job to look in a town with hundred of thousand WGs and sort out among, old, very old, those who should pay us to get laid, and yah. All these original individuals. First it is very time consuming and second it is actually expensive. If you ask what is 100 Bt drink does for you? My answer is that yesterday it ended up to $76USD for me. And that is before I found what I wanted. So you add $76USD to $174 (1000Bt BF, + 2500 for LT, + 1000 for dinner + 500 for tips) and you get almost Eastern European prices, but still way cheaper than in Shanghai, but you lost hours of time choosing / selecting and if you do not like the process, you can blame you eye-sight.

But while you are here, give this a try. Even on Soi 6, you can find what you are looking eventually. At least I hope. Look at this experience positively at least while you are here, like in a saying: "Pessimists are usually right, but they do not live that long."

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1417196]What I can recomend you is to dive into the more upscale BKK nightlife (saving that extra buck is not important to you it seems). You will also get some rants by doing so probably bcs it is not common practice by the average mongerer. Demo, Narz, Slim&Fix, Route66 are all nightclubs on the upside in Bangkoks nightlife. Not the easiest place to hook up with girls and these places are not common girl pick up places. Some will probably tell you you need to speak Thai in those places but I can only say "nam" in Thai and doing relatively fine as more and more Thai citygirls speak english (but ofcourse with some Thai speaking ability it will be more easy). If you can`t find a 8 or better girl here then you as Natty and Amex tells you should probably head somewhere else bcs then you can not see Thai beauty (we are all different in what we like). But if you can not hook up with beauties back home you will also have problems here as same mechanisms applies. Singapore, Macau, HongKong, Jakarta, Denpasar, Shanghai, Manila (Makati and surroundings have a few good nightclubs) and Beijing should do the trick (just to pick a few places not so far as Europe or South America).

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why you recommend those places. I'm not saying to avoid them but he was in very low quality places, beach road and soil 6. Kinda like a guy fed up with his piece of shit Ford Escort and a car salesmen suggesting he take a gander at the new lineup of Porsche 911 LOL.

And what do you mean exactly that you're doing fine in those places? They get so crowded and loud on the weekends, is it your M. O to go stand near a hot chick in the middle of the crowd and start dry humping her?

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1417494]I'm not sure why you recommend those places. I'm not saying to avoid them but he was in very low quality places, beach road and soil 6. Kinda like a guy fed up with his piece of shit Ford Escort and a car salesmen suggesting he take a gander at the new lineup of Porsche 911 LOL.

And what do you mean exactly that you're doing fine in those places? They get so crowded and loud on the weekends, is it your M. O to go stand near a hot chick in the middle of the crowd and start dry humping her?[/QUOTE]Yes you are absolutely correct. I go there to dryhump the girls. Gives me great pleasure. To bad security won't let me finish. LOL. I base my recomendations from my point of view and I happens to like a tad upscale nightlife every now and then (as I do in Jakarta, KL, Singa, Shanghai, Beijing, Caracas, Bogota, Sao Paolo, Manila, Oslo, London, Las Vegas and so on). I agree with you though that there are many places / areas with girls between Escort and Porche. My report was based to the guy who seem to be bored from Ford Escort quality so why not just guide him to where I find the most attractive girls in BKK(from my knowledge so far if I spot better places I will go there as I am dynamic). For me it is all about the combi of many things(quick take outs from BG to get some FL's at the usual mongernightspots to meet a few girls from datingsites to try hunt in uscale nightclubs where normal mechanisms applies for having a girl)..

By relatively fine I mean I have met a few girls in those places.

[QUOTE=Yuri B; 1417444]IMHO, I think the problem is not with your eyes, but with your attention span here in Pattaya. If you ask Amex Spg (need to PM) , he will e-mail you his previous report where I found his friend 13 VERY pretty. I wish he could have introduced us, but he left not waiting for me to come. How unfortunate for me.

Anyhow, it is much harder job to look in a town with hundred of thousand WGs and sort out among, old, very old, those who should pay us to get laid, and yah. All these original individuals. First it is very time consuming and second it is actually expensive. If you ask what is 100 Bt drink does for you? My answer is that yesterday it ended up to $76USD for me. And that is before I found what I wanted. So you add $76USD to $174 (1000Bt BF, + 2500 for LT, + 1000 for dinner + 500 for tips) and you get almost Eastern European prices, but still way cheaper than in Shanghai, but you lost hours of time choosing / selecting and if you do not like the process, you can blame you eye-sight.

But while you are here, give this a try. Even on Soi 6, you can find what you are looking eventually. At least I hope. Look at this experience positively at least while you are here, like in a saying: "Pessimists are usually right, but they do not live that long."[/QUOTE]Last night I stayed pretty much in the Walking Street area. Went into many places. I seen maybe one 8 in my rating. Rest fugly women. Then around 1:45 to 2am. A bunch of I would call them Semi-Pros walk the street from the East. Looking for late night hook ups. I seen 4 to 5 really 8's walking. I would recommend that as the easiest way to pick out what you want. There are so, so, so many places with 5 to 100 fugly women in it, you will wear yourself out.

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417559]Last night I stayed pretty much in the Walking Street area. Went into many places. I seen maybe one 8 in my rating. Rest fugly women. Then around 1:45 to 2am. A bunch of I would call them Semi-Pros walk the street from the East. Looking for late night hook ups. I seen 4 to 5 really 8's walking. I would recommend that as the easiest way to pick out what you want. There are so, so, so many places with 5 to 100 fugly women in it, you will wear yourself out.[/QUOTE]Good to hear, so there are still some possibility. I was about to cancel my Pattaya trip earlier!

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1417318]To OLD south

If you are not Impressed 10 yr ago you will not like it now Pattaya is worst than 10 yr ago everything cost much more and girl quality is worst and why even come here and bring your hot girl friend from China what is your point, Pattaya is a place monger come here to get cheap sex you better off take her to Shanghai or Bejing or even stay in CP to get a hot KTV girl there for your 3some travel all the way to Pattaya for that DUMB DUMB and STUPID.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Well, remember Pattaya hotels were really nice with big swimming pools.

OS

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417559]Last night I stayed pretty much in the Walking Street area. Went into many places. I seen maybe one 8 in my rating. Rest fugly women. Then around 1:45 to 2am. A bunch of I would call them Semi-Pros walk the street from the East. Looking for late night hook ups. I seen 4 to 5 really 8's walking. I would recommend that as the easiest way to pick out what you want. There are so, so, so many places with 5 to 100 fugly women in it, you will wear yourself out.[/QUOTE]It looks like you have confused the purpose of venue. Pattaya is for great fun at affordable prices. It is the Big C of mongering. Well you are not going to go into Big C looking to purchase a 10 carat diamond necklace. It seems you were hoping it to be a Beverly Hills boutique. It's your trip. You can walk around beeching and disappointed if you want to or you can get your ass off your shoulders and decide to make your own fun.

P.S. Did you even attempt to talk to the ladies you perceived to be 8s, or did you just let them pass you by?