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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253188]It is always amusing to see stones thrown at America's for lack of paid sex, especially when those stones are being thrown by mongers in societies that actually do stone their citizenry to death for prostitution and other assorted "crimes" and chop off limb and dick (not necessarily in that order) for so much as saying the word sex.
[/QUOTE]Astagfirullah! I can reassure you that none of my Moroccan homies ever threatened to chop off my dick for saying the word sex. If they did you would have the beginning of a good argument.

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The reality of US is far more complex which can never be appreciated by blokes who are not even eligible for visas to come here.
[/QUOTE]Amazing you know so much about me, absolutely amazing.

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As for being jealous of Japanese, is this what we should be jealous of? Reminds us of one frequent poster here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23182523

[/QUOTE]A boy who spends all his time in his room is clearly different from a guy in his thirties who travels around the world fucking beautiful young ladies. In fact they seem like opposites. There are many ways you could have criticized Mr Ho, and I might even have agreed with you, but it's going to take too much work and psychobabble to squeeze him into this simple wooden box of a stereotype so I'll leave it with you.

As we say in the caliphate, there ain't no business like Ho business.

Reading recent posts it seems like Mr Ho is representative of a degenerate and declining culture, to say nothing of being a social inadequate.

Be that as it may, I enjoy reading his posts and see no reason why he should not continue. He has views which are usually the complete opposite of mine, but I see them as a chance for reflection and discussion, not as a threat. So, Mr Ho, please continue posting your eccentric posts if it makes you happy. This thread is the place to do it

My only regret in life is being unable to experience the kawaii Japanese girls, Mr Ho. You have good fortune there

Jnpr30. I need to add that I do share your frustration at the number of posts by a limited number of members in this thread. And of course, one of these is Mr Ho. (I find I can't keep up with the arcane discussions in this thread, and would not want to judge who is writing drivel and useless posts). But, I guess that is what this thread is for: to keep those of us exiled from Germany involved during our periods of exile

Jnpr30. I found the article you link to very interesting. I see it however as much more positive. As the article says it is a mark of a society in transition. In some ways reminiscent of Germany of 20 years ago in terms of the respective balance of the individual and the group. I said then that the incipient changes would soon be seen in a growing economy as indeed happened (of course much more complicated in reality).I hope Japan can find its way without losing its many current strengths

Btw. If posts count is to be a criterion please note that my annual rate is about 200, so hopefully I do not clog up the forum too much

Cheers to all. May we all meet in the fkk of which dreams are made

[QUOTE=Pistons;2253141]Maybe. Maybe Mr. Ho is a fictional writer posing as this imaginary impersonification: Mr. Ho who writes a lot than he partakes sometimes to stir up the forum to create more activity. In order for him to get more info to write about. It could be a book about you and me and members on an online escort forum. Haha.

Anyway, there is also this boobs for bullets campaign I read about by Nutaku. A for adult computer games. They want to help decrease the mass shootings in american schools. And in order to do that increase games about boobs, and decrease games about guns and bullets. So consider ISG a game of boobs and compare it to how massive games on bullets are these days. In that sense Mr. Ho is just a bit ahead of time. And he could be helping to avoid a future mass shooting in an american high school in 2030 by contributing to the rise of the boobs market so that it may grow above the bullets market online. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well it is not fictional, but I cannot write my whole life on here, I hope this much you all agree LOL, but I was fair enough to write mildly about myself a bit because I am not shame of any part or stages of my life and I am grateful to life itself and any people who were part of that to make my life good life whether it is my parent, grand parent, friends or even some random people I met along the way, which include some of this forum members too that I got along etc. It is other side who do not even write about their lives not even a bit, which they probably are just average Joe and not living interesting life LOL.

Online sex forum such as this one is great thing because one can express specific personality side that they cannot show in their lives, which is mongering side, that is why we all are here, I mean this is one personality I do not show in my life beside here except to very few friends. For this use, this forum is great forum.

However, one thing that surprise me is that, beside inbox communication which is bit more deeper and talk normally, I do not take this forum seriously even though I do enjoy it like rest of forum posters, that is why they are here too, but it was surprise that some people take this forum so serious to the extent where they talk about thesis, modern science and even some stupid radio show LOL. I probably was talking to some geeky nutcase, but that was creepy experiences like huh? LOL, and since they talk about social fluency, I hope they do not talk with such tones in their private lives for their own sake LOL.

It is opposite parallel debate with no ending because I am on extreme liberal side, rejecting emotional connection with women who I have sex with and others are somehow talking about importance of having emotional connection and relation with women who they have sex with. I do not want that, that is why I turned pro mongers in most cases.

The bottom line is that, it is surprising to find not many, but few people who preach about importance of emotional connection with women or relationship with women who has sex with on sex forum where mongers are taking about mongering including themselves LOL. This surprise me to the extent, some people really do not see themselves or realize what is going on in their lives LOL.

This is sex forum, not we all are goody goody people living straight up life LOL, well they probably believe they are, but once you open the door to world of regular mongering, you are not living straight up life in reality, this I realize that, but it seems some people clearly do not realize that LOL.

I realize I am a monger and I am proud of it because it make me happy. I much prefer to be in position fucking porn stars than masturbating to porn stars front of PC screens, this is my mind set, if I think anything is fun, I am not type imagining it, I try to turn that into reality and so far I have done good job on that, and I will continue to doing so, even though it takes some fights to get it. Mongering is not all I do in life like some blocked box mentality people are thinking, but is mongering big part of my life, big time, I love mongering till the day I die LOL, I do not want to spend my life with aging women because I am emotionally connected, no thanks to those relationship to aging women, that is not my happiness for me, but waste of life, I like to live my life to fullest and spending most part of my life with aging women is not my thing, no way LOL. As for those relationships and emotional connections I can do that with friends, family and pets (I like having pets), there is no need for me to spend rest of my life with aging women, this for me is waste of life, if such thing is important for you, I heard that society norm for average Joe, then I am glad that make you happy, but it does not make me happy LOL.

He's a rich spoilt kid, but at least he's not discussing the various remote control policies of the clubs ad nauseam in the relevant threads.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253268]We are also not here to listen to any nutcase repeatedly telling us the demerits of marriage or relationship and how it is a great thing to be fucking tutes that later marry some losers and how that makes the hikkomori the king of his own imaginary Roppongi Hill.

Yes, want to discuss mongering and paid sex? Let us do. We don't need half baked lectures in bad English from maladjusted hikkomori about merits and demerits of marriage and relationships anymore than we need a lecture about hamburger vs steak from a vegetarian. And we certainly didnt need him to repeat that garbage 2,000 times.[/QUOTE]So, Want to discuss mongering paid sex you asked?

Ah, I think I do and we do, please not that this is a mongering forum where we discuss about mongering, not importance of emotional connection and relationship with women who you have sex with LOL. Look, it says sex forum, we discuss mongering here, not emotional connections and relationship which is important for you and other two guys who begin to quote some radio show and clinical studies and thesis LOL! But it is OK, we carry you, we are more flexible liberal bunch here, so it is fine, we listen to you LOL. But please, it is mongering forum, not relationship and emotional connection for those sensitive type guys LOL. Pro mongers are sensitive too, but not as much as you, but I respect your sensitivity LOL!

Man, you got some sick sense of character based on imaginary stereo type you realize that? Please do not be angry when what you have just written based on your stereo type imagination is your situation LOL, it is OK LOL. Though Roppongi Hills is not exactly good place to live, I prefer house and I live in one, it is better, by the way, no mortgage LOL. Roppongi Hills is Galapagos, if you prefer apartment like that, I recommend Tokyo midtown in that area, it at least got proper super market underneath, roppongi hills only allow you to eat out every single meal because it is hard to shop for food etc. You quoting roppongi hills is such a stereo type personality, you think it is like a representation of wealth for you right? That is media created bogus LOL, proper house cost more, plus rippongi hills begin with 3000 USD per month for rent, it is not that expensive, highest floors are about 35000 USD, that is expensive, but there are only few rooms like that. But man quoting roppong hills is rather child stereo type LOL.

Hey, marriage is not bad thing and if it is working for you together with mongering, I am so happy for you LOL. I may one day love aging women like you do too due to emotional connection and make love to emotional connection LOL, I would love to spend and invest my millions of both time and money for such aging women because for me, I may one day begin to think emotional connection with women I have sex is must thing in life LOL! Oh I love the sound of that LOL.

Just please do not run away to some irrationality imaginary insult that make me laugh about imaginary insanity stereo type because situation and things get difficult for you LOL!

Well, it is each their own, so I would say please enjoy mongering to aging women who are emotionally connected to you because relationship with such type of women are very important thing in life LOL! There are plenty of those type of girls in German FKK LOL! It must be so easy to find girl to session with in German FKK right? LOL! Hey, I am picky for appearance of women I fuck, so please know that I do not want to fuck aging women because I am emotionally connected, I do not fuck emotionally connected do I? If these thing get you boner, I am happy for you, but it is not my fetish and I do not have such fetish for aging women LOL.

Listen to me clearly, you like that and I do not, so it really is each their own like a lot of things in life. Each their own is 21st century thing, it is good mindset to discover, 20th century is over, it is 21st century, and in this century we are granted more freedom because we human learnt that being more open, liberal are better way to go.

So I understand about your importance of relationship and emotional connection with aging woman you have sex with is coming from, it is OK, I understand you, I am not with you on that one, no way, but I understand you.

I got to go now, so I wish you good day LOL!

[QUOTE=Optimist;2253303]Reading recent posts it seems like Mr Ho is representative of a degenerate and declining culture, to say nothing of being a social inadequate.

Be that as it may, I enjoy reading his posts and see no reason why he should not continue. He has views which are usually the complete opposite of mine, but I see them as a chance for reflection and discussion, not as a threat. So, Mr Ho, please continue posting your eccentric posts if it makes you happy. This thread is the place to do it

My only regret in life is being unable to experience the kawaii Japanese girls, Mr Ho. You have good fortune there..[/QUOTE]Thank you, it is fair observation. Well I do enjoy so called respected cultures beside mongering even during FKK trip, like as an example, I do tend to go to museums or world heritages etc if I can make time during my FKK trip, which sometimes make me extend my trip to different direction to do so. But yes, my mongering side is a result of decline of modern day culture, but I am happy that I am a monger, it is by choice, I can stop tomorrow, but hey, no sir, I am monger till the day I die. I will keep on riding those new beautiful young girls over and over LOL.

As for Kawaii girls, my taste is more Eurasian girls or model type around 170 cm Japanese straight out of vogue Japan type, so it is harder for me to find, but before checking this forum usually 3 times per day, I also check escort sites at same time, those 3 times are my mongering related time that I take on daily basis as part of my routine for enhance my mongering part of my life.

So it used to be 50 flat and 50 for CIM. Now that BBBJ law changed and most charge 50 for BBBJ, is CIM another 50 after that? Or included. So is 30 min with CIM generally 100 or 150.

P.S. I know it varies. I am asking the general rule IYO.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253188]https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23182523[/QUOTE]Interesting read. The bullet points on the side were informative as well.

Oxford Dictionary definition of Hikikomori is "abnormal avoidance of social contact". Social skills are not innate. You learn them from interacting with different people. If somebody grows up without the opportunities to socialize, then it is often evident. I guarantee you all the WGs notice it. Within five minutes of speaking to them, I can notice it as well. And it is more common in hardcore mongers.

The author believes Hikikomori to be a problem Korea, Italy, and received email inquiries from British parents. The author also believes that Europe's recent 50 percent youth unemployment might prove to be a precursor for Hikikomori in Europe. However, I am doubtful it would be ever as widespread as it is in Japan. I will admit that I am more familiar with Italian culture than Japanese. The parenting styles I suspect are different. Cultural attitudes towards education and work life balance are also different. I don't have the statistics sitting in front of me, but I suspect there are higher of numbers of young Japanese who are sitting in dark rooms playing video games than in Italy.

I tend to have the same opinions as mr. Ho. I just want to bang the hottest chicks all over the world. Enjoying great food as well.

Marriage isn't for me & serious relationships are overrated. Pussy is never free. It's actually cheaper to pay. Yes yes. Holding hands, romantic poetry, watching the sunset together is great. Not that great if all you're doing is jerking off in the shower Everytime because she has a headache!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2253325]So it used to be 50 flat and 50 for CIM. Now that BBBJ law changed and most charge 50 for BBBJ, is CIM another 50 after that? Or included. So is 30 min with CIM generally 100 or 150.

P.S. I know it varies. I am asking the general rule IYO.[/QUOTE]OK, as a general rule, I would say that it really depends on what part of Germany you are in. I have found that the NRW region is more "monger-friendly" to the wallet shall we say. I will leave it at that.

I have yet to encounter anyone even suggest CBJ or charging extra for BBBJ. BBBJ seems to be just assumed as it was before the "newish" law.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2253325]So it used to be 50 flat and 50 for CIM. Now that BBBJ law changed and most charge 50 for BBBJ, is CIM another 50 after that? Or included. So is 30 min with CIM generally 100 or 150.

P.S. I know it varies. I am asking the general rule IYO.[/QUOTE]

So yes this is a mongering forum but it is also the lounge and chat section that is separate from individual club threads, FAQs thread, General Info thread, Car rental thread, blah blah blah.

I fail to see why anyone would be angry to read about topics that are a loosely connected to the mongering life. Even considering that illogical gripe, relationships, finances, psychology, happiness, biology, and sociology are all topics easily related to mongering.

Side note, I fail to see how Polyamorist can call peer reviewed articles from PubMed "pseudo-science.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253279]Nope. He can do what he wants in his life and nope, no one cares what he does. And there is nothing honest or dishonest about any of this. It is about useless, irrelevant drivel printed 2,000 times ad nauseum. Would you like it if every single member wrote 2,000 comments about something completely off topic to this thread?[/QUOTE]Temper, temper, anger management can be handle by clinic FKK in Germany where angry and frustration men can unleash the anger and frustration, clinic FKK where anger management patients can get sexual treatments, sexual healing as marvin gaye said LOL!

Please do not oblige me to reply, as much as this forum is great and free to discuss as it is lounge and chat, but angry and frustration and temper is not so recommended for any human, it is not good for health.

Go monger for anger and temper, it will provide anger management via sexual healing LOL!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2253325]So it used to be 50 flat and 50 for CIM. Now that BBBJ law changed and most charge 50 for BBBJ, is CIM another 50 after that? Or included. So is 30 min with CIM generally 100 or 150.

P.S. I know it varies. I am asking the general rule IYO.[/QUOTE]There are [B]some[/B] girls (not most) who charge extra for BBBJ. The ones who do will not charge another upcharge for CIM. So 30 min with CIM and BBBJ is at most 100 in Frankfurt area clubs.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2253379]I have yet to encounter anyone even suggest CBJ or charging extra for BBBJ. BBBJ seems to be just assumed as it was before the "newish" law.[/QUOTE]At which clubs is that? I could have sworn there was a lot of discussion about upsell at Sharks and Oase (and Mainhattan I believe). Are you still getting BBBJ at base 50€ price there? Or are you talking elsewhere?