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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1988935]When Melani white snow arrived from Finca, I don t remember exactly when? Beginning of 2016? Great GF for our first 1 hour room, so I returned for her on next week end. Not the faintest upselling for our 2 rooms. I think girls behave in different ways with us.[/QUOTE]Hey, well done that you did not get upsold for the items listed as extra services. How was it like with Melanie, not having to pay for her to shit on you?
Your English somehow managed to get much better.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1988929]Obviously, the foreign tourists are ruining FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]I think its actually more that there has not been a price increment in all these years.
Even the NRW clubs that were at 75 euros per hour have made the shift to 100 euros per hour nowadays. Even before that official price increase there were girls in those NRW clubs pushing for 100 per hour and not the official 75 per hour.
What would you do if you did not get an income increase in say 10 or even 15 years? Maybe sell some extra services?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1988992]Hey, well done that you did not get upsold for the items listed as extra services. How was it like with Melanie, not having to pay for her to shit on you?
Your English somehow managed to get much better.[/QUOTE]Probably another case of change of services over time.
As far as the pricing trend in Hessen.
I recall running into girls that propose 1 HR for kissing around 2014 onwards at Oase (with a bigger changes to the LU that yr), and Sharks was ok at the time comparatively. What happened happend most recently were of girls at Oase is now proposing 50 Euros extra for the service and I have run into 100 or 150 for the half HR for GFE services. Comparatively, Sharks is not as bad.
If we look back, this type of negotiations were more of a common thing at Palace, but now it has become more pervasive.
World or Finca for nearby I haven't run into this though. World is far out, and Finca is located out of reach basically.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1988906]Pissing 100.
Shitting 100+ negotiable.
[/QUOTE]Usually people know the prices of what they are interested in. LOL.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1988929]Obviously, the foreign tourists are ruining FKK clubs.
I think, it is better for the current punters to keep a low profile about NRW clubs, in case they got ruined like the Hesse ones.[/QUOTE]It's true, more tourists means less service. That's why Finca or World do still have higher service levels. They are far out and tourists don't get there too often.
And on the contrary, we should promote NRW a lot more to divert tourists there and to get back to higher service levels in Hessen. So go to NRW. Service is better. Less upsell. Lower prices for extras. Flying into theüsseldorf is a lot cheaper. Beer is free in the clubs. Cheaper entry.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1989025]...So go to NRW. Service is better. Less upsell. Lower prices for extras. Flying into Deusseldorf is a lot cheaper. Beer is free in the clubs. Cheaper entry...[/QUOTE]Cannot agree more, I'm a tourist though. Ha Ha Ha.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1988992]Hey, well done that you did not get upsold for the items listed as extra services. How was it like with Melanie, not having to pay for her to shit on you?
Your English somehow managed to get much better.[/QUOTE]She got prettier look for my tastes, with her long, straight, black hair and white skin, no high socks, no teacher glasses. She may have changed her way for business, because I often saw her not busy. If she stayed on her GF behavior she had for our first room, she should be a busy superstar because she was really sweet for 1 hour for 100 given. Less illusion on second time, so, only 2 rooms when I like to have many with GFE girls. Usually, girls don't try to upsell me, maybe because when I enjoy, I stay for at least 1 hour to take all my time to foreplay. Even in expensive Switzerland, I'm not able to hurry for time with my girls.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1988906]
Pissing 100.
Shitting 100+ negotiable.
[/QUOTE]Don't want to use a room after Melanie.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1989051]Don't want to use a room after Melanie.[/QUOTE]Not at all her behavior for our rooms. She was really sweet GF type.
CIM or COF for 50 is just Hessen rate. Only 25 in NRW except Oceans, a GT top performer even mostly swallowing. I didn't have 5 €, so I gave her 130 when we were for about 1 h10 in room, she wanted to go to the desk to make 5 € to give me back, I answered I didn't want, she said: You are a nice guy, with DFK in lockers. She worked at Bumsalp. Ch before. Even in fuck factories, can find really honest, with ethic, girls. Sandra. De is. Just have to find the honest girls. For me the most difficult is to find dreamed, classy sophisticated look, beauties. Then, everything is possible, just have to work with the girl. Of course, don t always work. Unfortunately, since Summer, on my 4 visits, I didn't see many dreamed beauties except mine for 1 year and half.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1988906]Melanie the slim brown haired girl with glasses at Sharks has a menu of services:
Pissing 100.
Shitting 100+ negotiable.
[/QUOTE]Its a lot cheaper to get a dog and ask it to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] / shit on you, haha j / k.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1988929]Obviously, the foreign tourists are ruining FKK clubs.
As everyone has known, tourists always spend over 100+ per session, pay extras (which sometimes should be included in the basic rate), and demand far less service level than the locals.
[/QUOTE]Arent you a tourist as well? False statement not all tourist spend 100+ and pay extras as I certainly don't. So you do spend 100+ always?
Thought more girls wud translate into better service lvl due to fierce competition.
You should have kept quiet about where you are going or perhaps its reverse psychology, LOL.
Guess its getting harder to get good service for 50 e esp with new girls. Thats why I like to stick to girls I know.
I wud also rather spend longer time 1 girl that provides good service than several lousy ones for sure.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1989001]
World or Finca for nearby I haven't run into this though. World is far out, and Finca is located out of reach basically.[/QUOTE]In average World girl's service maybe still better than at the other big Hessen clubs but ofc there are also girls at World they want for DFK or BL or nice GFE session extra money. I personaly had this experience sometimes at World and meanwhile also enough World reports at German forums with girls upselling attempts.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1989025]
And on the contrary, we should promote NRW a lot more to divert tourists there and to get back to higher service levels in Hessen. So go to NRW. Service is better. Less upsell. Lower prices for extras. Flying into thesseldorf is a lot cheaper. Beer is free in the clubs. Cheaper entry.[/QUOTE]This doesn't work. Result would be less clubs and less girls, less top girls and so on. Why guys prefer the big clubs? Bc of the large choice of girls. Otherwise at Hessen they can go to Bahama, Atlanta or Rom, but a lot of guys LOL don't do.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1989025]It's true, more tourists means less service. That's why Finca or World do still have higher service levels. They are far out and tourists don't get there too often.
And on the contrary, we should promote NRW a lot more to divert tourists there and to get back to higher service levels in Hessen. So go to NRW. Service is better. Less upsell. Lower prices for extras. Flying into thesseldorf is a lot cheaper. Beer is free in the clubs. Cheaper entry.
HB.[/QUOTE]So what happened to the "let the tourists subsidise my standard price (= no tipping + full service) sessions" tough talk from the past?
[QUOTE=Craiova;1989090]In average World girl's service maybe still better than at the other big Hessen clubs but ofc there are also girls at World they want for DFK or BL or nice GFE session extra money. I personaly had this experience sometimes at World and meanwhile also enough World reports at German forums with girls upselling attempts.[/QUOTE]That's what we are talking about. The average service level.
HB.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1989100]So what happened to the "let the tourists subsidise my standard price (= no tipping + full service) sessions" tough talk from the past?[/QUOTE]Still valid. But there's too many girls to stupid to differentiate between tourists / one time guests (=upsell and bad service) and local regulars (=no upsell and great service). ;)
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1989107]Still valid. But there's too many girls to stupid to differentiate between tourists / one time guests (=upsell and bad service) and local regulars (=no upsell and great service). ;)
HB.[/QUOTE]Even amongst local regulars, she has to differentiate. Some regulars do not repeat (because they prefer to sample all the WGs). Some regulars do not spend much. For such a customer (even if he attends three times a week) the WG might only see a 50-100 EUR from him every three months.