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Today after so many in KL I felt novice again. I would need some advice from few seniors here. I am noticing this since last few times, whenever I bring a gal from bc or tc, I generally opt for full night. I think short time is too short, but every time after one deed which is passionate, either me or the gal will sleep. Than one half hearted deed in morning, that also when the girl is done with her sleep, if I try to wake up her when I am North she will do oooo aaaaa let me sleep.

So conclusion is I am paying for full night but it's like short time only. I agree that first time is too passionate but than why to wait money.

What I think when I bring them is that I will fuck her over night and she will enjoy.

Now my problem I want it like more more, fully nympho experience but in lack of that I am left unsatisfied always. So please guide me what is my problem.

1. m too friendly and caring with gals.

2. they think I am a non nympho.

3. I act rubbish.

4. I pay less (here I have a point first time I bargain hard but next time girl herself ask me to come and she do that even discuss money and take what I pay them, which is always same or little more amount.

5. I repeat the gals.

Black Page your comments would also be help full as for me you are the king of kl. I want a night with more more more where I am lacking.

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;1803878]I am noticing this since last few times, whenever I bring a gal from bc or tc, I generally opt for full night. I think short time is too short, but every time after one deed which is passionate, either me or the gal will sleep. Than one half hearted deed in morning, that also when the girl is done with her sleep, if I try to wake up her when I am North she will do oooo aaaaa let me sleep.
So conclusion is I am paying for full night but it's like short time only.[/QUOTE]That's a common mistake (I did it too, then I learned. I know what you mean, exactly).

NEVER agree for TLN ([I]toda la noche[/I], ooopps I am used to Colombia), that is overnight! You'll pay a lot and most of the times your experience will be disappointing as you depict above.

After making the same mistake, I learned to do this:
1) I bargain hard for short time (less than 400 is very difficult with an attractive girl, yet possible).
2) I promise a tip for an excellent experience.
3) we move to hotel and I say "I don't mind if you want to stay sleep, only sleep, my bed is big and very comfortable (I stay at Sheraton, 5 stars excellent hotel for less than 100 USD / night).
4) if I am happy and I feel the GFE, I insist for her to stay to sleep (if it's not super GFE, I am happy to see her leaving instead after sex).
5) if she is reluctant, I tell her I will round up to 500 (if the original fee negotiated was 400) because I really love her.

This worked in many cases for me, say 50% girls remained to sleep (viet and pinay), after having originally agreed for short time.
Surely, one important factor is the very good hotel. A girl from BC will love to stay sleeping in that big comfortable bed.
Please note that, as maybe you, what I like of overnight is not bonking the girl 3 times, but hugging her and being hugged while we sleep. Real GFE. If the experince with the girl is not full GFE, there's no point in having her sleeping with me. I am happy to see her leaving.
Many of those who remained to sleep also remained in touch with me by phone and wechat. That means lots of useless chat, but also the priceless experience to have her to call a friend for 3some on my next visit. :D

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;1803878]Black Page your comments would also be help full as for me you are the king of kl. I want a night with more more more where I am lacking.[/QUOTE]I am not the king, but the only one who cares to write. I think the real Kings got bored and now just read sometimes, without bothering to write (even to write "RTFF")...

I too am not interested in quick bang & go. No emotion. Maybe ok for some but not this little black duck.

A few more suggestions. Interview, interview, interview. Not in depth questioning but test chemistry.

Ask yourself. Who approached who?? - if you approached them. They know you want them, If they approached you. Reverse.

At first don't be too eager. Say "I'm just here for a drink. I was going to have an early night" or " Wouldn't mind just a massage" - make them try harder.

Don't buy them a drink straight up but wait 5/10 minutes but always buy them a drink.

Reward good behaviour - " Gee you could really convince me. ".

Try to suss out if she is a long term pro or fairly new to the game or semi pro.

Ask yourself " How keen is she to get back to the hotel" - is it just business to her?

When she is with you is she looking for other potential players?

Basically what chemistry is there. Yeah we all know it is a game. But they / we are still people.

Agree with Black Page. Promise a tip. And give. Even half way through the deed. I will say " there's more if this keeps happening" and if there is always pay up. Your reputation will soon get around.

Agree with Black Page. Give the offer of sleep and staying and reiterate it is sleep not multiple pops (isn't cuddling just as nice sometimes. Ok debatable).

I don't increase the rate for long term if she stays. She gets a nice room / bed and maybe breakfast if I'm generous (maybe a tip).

And don't expect a PSE unless you pay big money. Give a little / go slow. Learn what women like. Try to push her buttons.

I've had some that I have to suggest 3/4 times it's time to leave (which doesn't mean I'm GOD).

Hope it helps.

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Agree with Black Page[/QUOTE]How much lore, wisdom and real experience in a post! I agree 101% with what you wrote, every single word! I recognize myself and my attitude in your suggestions and way of interacting.

I add only one item to my previous procedure, say point 2 bis:

2 bis) When we leave BC, before moving to hotel, I bring her (or them :D ) to some nearby stall for drinking a juice or eat something. This builds further chemistry. They are usually very surprised, because I am sure nobody does that.
And, of course, I reiterate: I NEVER accept the offer by one of those thugs taxi drivers who face you in front of BC. We walk along the alley where there was the old BC (oh! What a good times!). We exit on Jalan Sultan Ismail, and we stop a taxi there.

PS: A remark, which is needless for everyone except for Smart guys: In my previous post, I meant 400 or 500 RM, not USD, not SGD, not pounds of gold.

This time my KL trip was hectic with work on Sunday morning also. So got only one night for mongering. Was staying in Park Royal. Walked to Changkat around 10 pm. Went to Gypsy bar and ordered some beer. I was trying to find Anna, Filipina gal who I met a month before. But the bar looked deserted with no gals around. Walked to near by bars also but could not find any nice gals there. May be taking rest on Sunday night. So took a taxi and went to Beach club. It was around 1 am. Once I entered the bar and was drinking my beer, an east European gal approached me. There was group of Russian / eastern European gals at the entrance itself. She was big, but not that pretty with a cylindrical body. I asked her how much and she told Rm 1800 for LT. I wanted to tell 'Fu8 k off you as*ho*e', but restrained myself and told her no. She went back and came to me after sometime and asked how much I can give. I wanted to embarrass her this time and told her rm 300 for LT and it is what she deserve for her looks. She looked at me angrily and went back to their group and saw she telling some thing to her friends pointing at me. Was approached by few viet gals after, some of them was nice looking and was asking rm 800-1000 for LT and I rejected. I t was getting to 2 am and I wanted to return to hotel with my gal for the night and I noticed a small Indonesian gal with petite body and reasonable looks. Called her and asked the rate, she told 1000 first, came down to 800/700, but I insisted on 500 LT and she denied. I stood up pretending to go, and then she agreed for it. Then I told her I will not pay the full amount upfront, it will be 300 before and 200 after the session. She argued no no, but I insisted on it. She asked me where I am staying and told her the Hotel name, She thought for a while and agreed. Walked out of BC, rejected the bullying taxi drivers out side and walked towards Concorde hotel and took the taxi in front of the hotel.

In the room it was a real GFE, I liked her petite body with small but firm boobs. She was too passionate in kissing and giving the blow jobs. I liked her except she complaining pain wen pounding hard. Had three sessions till the morning and lot of chatting about her life in Medan, Indonesia and she left after breakfast. Paid her rm 50 as tip and so the total make up to rm 550. Not a bad deal, I believe.

Good report and good way of moving around there!

[QUOTE=Kitu2000;1804629]There was group of Russian / eastern European gals at the entrance itself. She was big, but not that pretty with a cylindrical body. I asked her how much and she told Rm 1800 for LT. I wanted to tell 'Fu8 k off you as*ho*e', but restrained myself and told her no. She went back and came to me after sometime and asked how much I can give. I wanted to embarrass her this time and told her rm 300 for LT and it is what she deserve for her looks. She looked at me angrily and went back to their group and saw she telling some thing to her friends pointing at me. [/QUOTE]
Yes, they were angry and were saying "Shit! This is not one of those dumbasses we can exploit!! :mad: "
But they are patient, like old fisherman on a quiet river bend, they know they can wait till they find one.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1804334]How much lore, wisdom and real experience in a post! I agree 101% with what you wrote, every single word! I recognize myself and my attitude in your suggestions and way of interacting.

I add only one item to my previous procedure, say point 2 bis:

2 bis) When we leave BC, before moving to hotel, I bring her (or them :D ) to some nearby stall for drinking a juice or eat something. This builds further chemistry. They are usually very surprised, because I am sure nobody does that.
And, of course, I reiterate: I NEVER accept the offer by one of those thugs taxi drivers who face you in front of BC. We walk along the alley where there was the old BC (oh! What a good times!). We exit on Jalan Sultan Ismail, and we stop a taxi there.

PS: A remark, which is needless for everyone except for Smart guys: In my previous post, I meant 400 or 500 RM, not USD, not SGD, not pounds of gold.[/QUOTE]Thanks a ton to both of you. It is really appreciating what you said. So this also make me feel good that I am. On right trek.

Just for pse I will have to shell out a lot of money and a good work.

Thanks to both of you.

So few pending FR are here.

1. Name Lin pickup from bc. I was driving king at bulkit Bintang and at 12 suddenly some flashy thoughts hit my kind. Headed to bc. Searched here and there. Found a cute gal standing in a corner m the best thing when you are drunk is you don't feel ashamed of anything. I speak to her and offer 400 she says 500. Rocky leaves. Again one round of bc and here she comes. Let's go.

She was a experienced lady who has served in many countries. And the way she stretch her inner part. God it was a damn good fuck. Than one deed in the morning.

Now whenever I meet her in bc. She don't ask money, she comes and I pay her what we first time agreed and yes I book a taxi back home apart from the food and liquor of her like.

2. lucy. Pick up Thai club. She was not ready to come with me earlier it took me 1 hour to convince on the rate I pay. 450 two fuck. Night long.

First time when I fucked, after 30 minutes I realized blood on condom and fuck she was on her periods. Mood spoiled but her cuteness kept me happy.

In morning no deed just paid her amount what we agreed and booked a taxi back home.

Now after the hat she has come twice to my place and better than my ex GF in term of that GFE game. She is too tight and e joys sex like me but again like a boy friend, I have to pamper her for some time. I know I am paying but she is a gal too.

This is my first FR in the forum. These dates have occurred around an year before so the specifics can be sketchy. But the locations and the damages are accurate.

1) A Sports Bar in HSBC Building. Guess its O** be* Went there with a couple of friends, late in the night, at around 12:00 am. Had a couple of beers, and then, had the steward call out the girls.

Most of them were LC. Selected a petite LC, and went down a floor to a set of rooms. Went into a room, got comfortable, and had a shower, with the LC. This was followed by a light MJ.

The LC had a Hardwood floor, and I spent a little bit of time there, DATY. Went up a bit and indulged in LFK. At this point in time, neither me or the LC were comfortable. It had been quite a while for me, since the last mongering, and she was also uncomfortable, as I was a bit too big for her petite frame.

Nevertheless, she slipped on the glove, and we indulged in a number of positions starting from WOT, Missionary, and reverse cow girl. I was pumping her for close to 4 minutes, but could not ejaculate. This was sad.

Finally gave up, had a wash and headed back to the bar, and had a drink.

Damages: Around RM 100 for that small session.

REVIEW.

GFE; 3/10 - She was not at all comfortable. The whole experience was pretty mechanical.

Assets: 6/10 - Essentially a spinner, not to my liking.

WIR No.

2) A message parlor in Bukit Bintang near Imbi. Cannot recollect the name though.

Saturday evening. Johnny was pestering, so called up a friend and headed to this place. It is essentially a massage parlour. Went there, and was escorted to a small room, by the MPA.

Rates were fixed, RM 268 for a single shot. I felt it was on the higher side, and the friend was also surprise, as he had paid a lower rate, the last time he was here. The MPA was in no mood to relent. It was like a take it or Thank you. We relented, and then the girls were brought in. LC, Mamasan and a couple of Indians. Chose the Indian. As before, I was escorted to a room, and after a few minutes, the girl came in. Had a arousing bath together, and then she laid down. DFK was out of bounds, so indulged in LFK, and then went down on her boobs. Again, almost nil GFE, with a lot of formality in the air. I wanted DATY but that was also out of bounds, and I was like pissed off. Laid down, and got BBBJ.

Even though the aircon was on, I was feeling uncomfortable and was not really relaxed. Finally entered her doggy style, and then missionary. Again, couldn't ejaculate. Backed off, had a bath, and scooted out, angry at the DFE.

REVIEW.

GFE 3/10 - Very Mechanical.

Body Structure; 6/10

WIR: NO.

Damages RM 268.

3) Taman Desa

After two disappointing experiences, went with another friend, who promised a good GFE. Went after 5 pm, when the girls started filing in slowly. Most of them were LC, and babybacks. Had a round of beer, and then asked for the girls. Around 3 of them turned up. Picked up 1. Paid RM 150, went up to the next floor. Had a nice hot water bath, and went into a room. The next 20 minutes were the most pleasurable moments that I had so far in mongering -this was as if to compensate for the previous mishaps. Total GFE. I could do whatever I wanted. DFK, DATY, DATO, and then she did an amazing BBBJ. Simple awesome, and I was completely relaxed, so much that the BBBJ turned into BBJTWS.

I couldn't penetrate, but that was fine. It was much better than the previous experiences. Got up had a bath, and that was followed by a refreshing hot tea. Tipped her RM 20, and indulged in LFK. Went to the same place after a few days, and again got the same experience, this time BBFS, along with DFK, DATY and BBBJ.

For around 180 RM per shot, this was the best I had in KL. WIR; YES!

I was in KL last week.

Went to BC the first night.

Made my way through the big group of Uzbek near the entrance and reached the bar.

While ordering my drink, I saw a very thin yet busty Indonesian. Spoke to her and she asked me to join her along with her friends for a drink and it extended to several drinks.

After an hour of partying, she asked for 1000 ringit to join me in the room, and after hard negotiations came down to 600 ringit.

As suggested by a senior member, I took her to Changkat and had few more drinks and something to eat in Gypsy Bar, which made her very happy.

In the room she never asked about the money and I had a great time with two pops and a real GFE experience. She spent the night with me and left after breakfast.

600 ringit plus 50 for taxi. Very well spent. I am trying to recollect her name, but I guess I was too drunk to remember. Overall a very satisfying experience.

Went to BC again the second night. Could not find the Indonesian from previous night. Was approached by a Uzbek and a Turkish woman. I kinda fancied the Turkish woman but.

Wanted to wait to check out all offerings. After about 30 minutes, saw a brunette who was pretty decent looking. Bought her a drink.

And spoke to her, she is from Crimea. She quoted 800 ringit and came down to 600 ringit. In the room I was surprised by the wonderful GFE experience as I didn't expect such a wonderful time from a EE girl in Beach Club. She never asked for the money and after two pops she left around 4 am. 600 ringit plus 50 for taxi.

A satisfying 2 nights in BC during this trip to KL.

Cheers

Hi guys,

Visiting KL for a few days, and looking for any recommendations on reliable / well-known outcall services near the KLCC area?

Reading through the content here and on other forums, the reviews seem mostly focused on MPs / HCs and Beach club. Personally, I prefer to avoid the 'club' atmosphere, haggling etc, and just get room service delivered.

Appreciate any input.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Monk777;1806137]Hi guys,

Visiting KL for a few days, and looking for any recommendations on reliable / well-known outcall services near the KLCC area?

Reading through the content here and on other forums, the reviews seem mostly focused on MPs / HCs and Beach club. Personally, I prefer to avoid the 'club' atmosphere, haggling etc, and just get room service delivered.

Appreciate any input.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi,

There are multiple options available. But as far as clubs are concerned you can talk to girl before bringing her, so you know what you expect. In outcall services the chances are 50:50.

Anyways there are multiple online agencies which you can find on Craigslist and locanto. But they charge like bomb for St or LT. So you would end up paying more than a club.

But if you go to beach club or Thai club you will see some old ladies sitting on the road in night they are mamasan they can get you good choice and a very friendly rate. Around 450/500 for night and once you take service from them they will change the girl if you make any complaint.

First time you will have to go and talk mamasan next time you just call her and she will deliver the parcel for you at doorstep.

Craigslist and locanto also offers some free Lancer girls but they ask initially like 800-1000 for night but you can talk to them on Watsapp.

I hope it helps.

I have been a long standing monger in Jakarta and am shortly moving to KL. In Indonesia, dating sites, such as DIA, Badoo etc are good sources to hook up with freelancers and quite a few are non professionals who are basically office going girls who don't mind a rendezvous once in a while. It also helps one to have a GFE with NSA. Would appreciate if comrades could suggest such active web portals which are popular in KL.

Sheesah joint near picolo hotel.

It was my first trip to kl and a new mongering experience as well. Reached kl in the evening and freshened up for the night ahead. Had a early dinner at an Italian restaurant on Jalan bukit bintang near hotel Soleil. Proceeded on the lookout for a companion for the night. Got into a cab and asked the taxi driver where can I find working women from other countries. He told me there are 2 options. The sheesah joint outside hotel Picolo near Pavillion mall and the famous beach club. Had heard quite a bit about the beach club but proceeded to the sheesah joint. There were about 5 working women at around 10 in the night. By 11 there were around 8. My eyes caught the fancy of a rather large curvy lady. Proceeded to talk to her and the price was fixed at 500 LT. Checked into the room. Had a shower together and foreplay began. Quite an extended foreplay of about half an hour. She proceeds to give a CBJ while I was sucking her tits. Wasn't ready to give a BJ even after promising to give her more. She came on top and the banging started. Changed to doggy and finished with missionary. Tired and relaxed for a bit. Had a round 2 and called it a night. Woke up in the morning with a boner and she freshened up. Round 3 started and finished with doggy this time. Dropped her at a taxi and bid goodbye to her. End of day 1. Attaching a pic of her body.

Day 2.

Did a little bit of shopping and sightseeing and it had already been sunset. Headed to the room. Got ready to go to beach club. The foreign working women in beach club are rather expensive. The asking rates were minimum 1000 for LT. I was about to laugh at their faces for quoting such high prices. Had a couple of beers. Inquired around a bit and some of them even quoted 1500. A few good looking women but could not find a connection so moved out. Headed back to the sheesah joint near Picolo hotel. Saw a rather skinny mature 35 year old lady chilling with her young 22 year old friend. Spoke to the skinny lady and the price decided was 350 LT. It was already about 2 am by then. Started talking in the car and asked her if her friend would be interested to join so it was 350 for the younger lady as well. So now it was a kind of a fantasy fuck with one mature and one lady. Went into the room and the mature lady wanted to have a drink while the younger one was cleaning me in the bathroom. Jumped into the bed and the mature one started sucking while I was kissing the younger one and feeling her tits. The mature lady came on top and intense thrusting started while I was sucking the chicks boobs. Finished with women on top. The mature lady was continuing with her drinks while I was kissing the younger chick. Now it was time to bang the younger chick. So the mature lady was doing BJ while I was fingering the younger chick and kissing her. The younger chick came on top and we proceeded onto doggy. Now while I was banging the younger chick in doggy the mature lady was planting deep kisses and licking all over my body. Finished in doggy and dropped off both the ladies to the taxi. Total damage of 750 including taxi to both the ladies. My personal opinion is threesome is very overrated if there is no chemistry / experience of doing it together.

Attaching her picture as promised.