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[QUOTE=ValueMonger;2628171]Yes used to be one of my local haunts but since the First lockdown quality of girls and services have gone South, Used to be some great ones there. Pretty much everything for %70-100 depending on girl. $50 was always a nude HJ girls' took their clothes off from the start. Now $50 will get you a poor HJ and only teasing after the flip. Have given the pace a swerve recently.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the corroboration; I was wondering if I just had a one-off bad experience at Lilly /268 StK Rd or if it was standard (poor) practice. Sounds like the latter. There is another negative review on this place a page or two back.

Anyway, in that same Balaclava-East St Kilda direction, are there any places which aren't crap? Walking north along StK Road from Carlisle Street before getting to Lilly, I passed a place with a handwritten price sign. Sign looked really cheap, which can be good Looking it up on Google Maps I think it is called Massage Best Oriental Massage at no. 396 StK Rd. Have you tried this one? Any good?

[QUOTE=Kaishang;2628186]Thanks for the corroboration; I was wondering if I just had a one-off bad experience at Lilly /268 StK Rd or if it was standard (poor) practice. Sounds like the latter. There is another negative review on this place a page or two back.

Anyway, in that same Balaclava-East St Kilda direction, are there any places which aren't crap? Walking north along StK Road from Carlisle Street before getting to Lilly, I passed a place with a handwritten price sign. Sign looked really cheap, which can be good Looking it up on Google Maps I think it is called Massage Best Oriental Massage at no. 396 StK Rd. Have you tried this one? Any good?[/QUOTE]Not sure there used to be one by Beacon Lighting and Post Office I think closed, There is a Thai one about 400 m up the hill, same side of road, but not as far as Califormia Club!. Very decent massages, girls are a bit hit and miss, but HJ $40-50 with no touching and Clothed is the order of the day from the regular staff, newbies sometimes have dropped to 30 but non undressed as far as I know. Was Offered $150 for a B2 B once there by an Ok looking girl, but just laughed at them, a few round Prahran Market which provide Topless HJ for 50 if you barter but not much else,.

[QUOTE=ValueMonger;2628358]Not sure there used to be one by Beacon Lighting and Post Office I think closed, There is a Thai one about 400 m up the hill, same side of road, but not as far as Califormia Club!. Very decent massages, girls are a bit hit and miss, but HJ $40-50 with no touching and Clothed is the order of the day from the regular staff, newbies sometimes have dropped to 30 but non undressed as far as I know. Was Offered $150 for a B2 B once there by an Ok looking girl, but just laughed at them, a few round Prahran Market which provide Topless HJ for 50 if you barter but not much else,.[/QUOTE]Thanks ValueMonger. Sorry if this seems a naive question, but I'm unfamiliar with Melbourne P4P. Is FS ever available at these massage places?

I may even go back to Lilly; I think it may be possible to have a good experience there, provided things are straightened out sufficiently beforehand.

[QUOTE=NewtoRnT;2628032]That ad is for the Rose St one? Just confirming I was referring to the Fletcher St on next to the Chemist.

Been to the Rose St one a while back (need to try again) but back then I was not punting. Pretty sure it was a Ladyboy but did not care as the massage was good LOL. Nothing else was on the menu for me back then LOL. Need to go back and see the MLs.[/QUOTE]Ahh sorry man, I just had that tab still open and thought it was fletcher street. Will have to double check again but I thought I managed to find the fletcher street phone number on Locanto or somewhere like that. Bit sleep deprived this week.

Generally to me it seems that you want to go for the ones that run in private houses. That's where I used to get the $60 naked HJ's and (still can) get $100 FS. So I generally don't even bother with the shop fronts.

[QUOTE=MrDickso;2628433]Generally to me it seems that you want to go for the ones that run in private houses. That's where I used to get the $60 naked HJ's and (still can) get $100 FS. So I generally don't even bother with the shop fronts.[/QUOTE]Anyone know of any "private houses" or FS shop fronts around the Narree Warren area?

There is a shop just north of Southland, near Nepean hwy, that appears to have just Viet girls working. I've walked in each of the past 4 weekends and asked to skip the massage and opt for BBBJ. A different girl (in 20's) each time has been happy to oblige. Nude BBJ for $100 and they're happy to take their time. Sf is on offer from some too, probably for an extra $20-$30.

[QUOTE=Pidge2;2629503]There is a shop just north of Southland, near Nepean hwy, that appears to have just Viet girls working. I've walked in each of the past 4 weekends and asked to skip the massage and opt for BBBJ. A different girl (in 20's) each time has been happy to oblige. Nude BBJ for $100 and they're happy to take their time. Sf is on offer from some too, probably for an extra $20-$30.[/QUOTE]Do you recall the name or address? Is it on.

Bay Road?

After recent mixed success, I could do with a reliable place.

Update; Following on from my last visit where greed dress girl stopped halfway thru a HJ and I grumbled about it to the middle age receptionist while still naked, I went back. Figured after last time, I could get the boss / receptionist to talk to the girl and ensure an incident free visit.

So, I explain to the mama san / receptionist that I don't want any mess ups this time. She assures me everything is ok. I get a different massage girl this time. Late 30's. Moderate attractive. Have massage. Massage ok, but not as good as last time. During massage I can hear another customer come in. Mamasan tells them full right now. Massage continues.

I hear another customer come in. This time mamasan shouts to my massagie girl in Mandarin. As I said in the last review my Mandarin is only so-so but she seems to be asking how the HJ is going. More Mandarin which I could not follow.

Then my massage girl asks me if it is ok to finish now and instead of giving me the HJ for the agreed $40, can the 50-something mamasan come in and give me a HJ for free?

I give an emphatic no. The HJ does happen with the original girl and I cough up $40 at the end.

On the way out, the mamasan gives me a hug and another bottle of water.

WIR: no, too unreliable and you will get turfed out for any number of reasons.

[QUOTE=Pidge2;2629503]There is a shop just north of Southland, near Nepean hwy, that appears to have just Viet girls working. I've walked in each of the past 4 weekends and asked to skip the massage and opt for BBBJ. A different girl (in 20's) each time has been happy to oblige. Nude BBJ for $100 and they're happy to take their time. Sf is on offer from some too, probably for an extra $20-$30.[/QUOTE]Is this the one next to the kitchen place.

[QUOTE=Atom72;2629144]Anyone know of any "private houses" or FS shop fronts around the Narree Warren area?[/QUOTE]Try 30 Kendall Drv.

Punter of 14 years here. Went to 3 spots on the weekend. Patterson Rd Bentleigh, south Rd Moorabbin and North Rd Ormond. They all shared something in common. 50 for the HJ and none of them budged on that. All seemed to think it's that or nothing. Then straight to 100 for anything more.

Is anyone else finding this to be the case? None would accept 30 or listen when I tried to explain that's the price to be fair and reasonable. Didn't go for it, said thanks and left at the end.

[QUOTE=Pidge2;2629503]There is a shop just north of Southland, near Nepean hwy, that appears to have just Viet girls working. I've walked in each of the past 4 weekends and asked to skip the massage and opt for BBBJ. A different girl (in 20's) each time has been happy to oblige. Nude BBJ for $100 and they're happy to take their time. Sf is on offer from some too, probably for an extra $20-$30.[/QUOTE]Can you share a little bit more on the location? We talking Nepean hwy? Technically north of Southland is up Chesterville Rd. And would you say you came to receive those services because they know you therefore you have that little bit of rapport?

[QUOTE=YayKaboom;2629721]Can you share a little bit more on the location? We talking Nepean hwy? Technically north of Southland is up Chesterville Rd. And would you say you came to receive those services because they know you therefore you have that little bit of rapport?[/QUOTE]North west of Southland, bay side of Nepean. Less than 1 km from Southland.

[QUOTE=YayKaboom;2629717]Punter of 14 years here. Went to 3 spots on the weekend. Patterson Rd Bentleigh, south Rd Moorabbin and North Rd Ormond. They all shared something in common. 50 for the HJ and none of them budged on that. All seemed to think it's that or nothing. Then straight to 100 for anything more.

Is anyone else finding this to be the case? None would accept 30 or listen when I tried to explain that's the price to be fair and reasonable. Didn't go for it, said thanks and left at the end.[/QUOTE]It seems since lockdown $50 is the usual opening gambit for Clothed HJ, Thai girls who seem to rate themselves better than the rest of SE Asia usually don't budge, and will rather not take 30 bucks than lower their prices. PRC and Viet might open with that but will deffo lower prices, the later the massage goes on as the clock is ticking they will try and relieve your wallet of some green backs, Have had as low as 25 bucks for an Ok handy. The other angle is to be open and honest and say tell them your idea of price and at least the girl knows the ground. Viet and PRC will do either topless of naked HJ for 50 normally. I do think that the earlier you map out the terms the better you get, as the sensual part of the massage starts earlier, The is nothing worse that after an uninspiring massage, on the flip the masseuses' points down there, and says do you want a massage down there. The good ones tease you through out the whole massage and are more likely to take it slow and easy for maximum pleasure. Just hold your ground, and if you walk with no HJ, if you think the price is too high, don't feel bad about it. Actually you feel better as you haven't been screwed a banana for an un-enthusiastic quick rough HJ.

So lots of mixed offerings, Frankston upstairs close to the mall, late thirties ok Chinese chick. 40 for 30, flip, 50 for nude HJ, reg proceeds to 69 but HJ, offers herself firmly. Good massage too. 2nd reg African lady 30, calls herself "the goddess" bay Road Brighton upstairs, been goin irregular for a year, great massage, did top less HJ for an extra 80, huge tits, no sucking, nude was 90. Massage $60 for 30. Expensive but great small hands, yesterday on the flip says prices have gone up is now $100 for topless HJ, I raised an eyebrow, she said $90 today. Finished off nicely but game over, looking for another well stacked dark girl now, the same shop had a stunning Vietnamese girl Anna, sadly disappeared. The brothels are scantly filled save for the red lantern, the girls say they are better treated there, some nice Thai girls reg. One said she was at Blue Krystal and the Chinese lady boss / owner was stingy. Generally the white girls are fairly low bar but some ok Asians in the line ups overall south east. Did an impromptu Locanto, doveton and walked in and out total fake picture despite the usual reassurance. Bullshit Chinese, they will lie every time, likewise ones operating out of Hallam motel, if you get princess hwy Hallam address don't bother.