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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2253555]I'm sure most of the men writing here have heard thes words or something related during their time mongering. "It's not this way with other men", "I miss you when you're gone", etc. For fun sake, please answer the folling question

What are some this the lady can do to convince you that you're special?[/QUOTE]OK, I will bite.

I would hope she does not actually miss me because that implies it became some sort of bonding. Then, an obligation would be created on my part. "Please give me x, because I miss you and you are special to me".

I do have a few special girls in the club, and by that I mean I take a sssion with them whenever they are in the club at the same time as me. Also, sessions with them tend to be at least an hour long, and likely even longer. However, I rarely take sessions lasting more than 2 hours.

What would I expect from these above girls, or even some other girls that I take semi regularly?

1. A friendly smile, a quick acknowledgement and if possible a brief chat if our paths cross.

2. If she is a super busy girl, then try to save a slot for me if she knows I am in the club. A few years ago, Roxana was in this category. She was constantly busy and booked. To her credit, she always saved a session for me and would tell me when I can expect it. She was a good professional.

3. Not to badger for tips. The long sessions are a tip in some sense. And if I give a tip occasionally, then accept it with grace.

4. Ofc better services inside the room. For example, a girl would not become special and regular unless she provided a good session the first time or second time. Some girls afterhaving become special take it fo granted and services begin sliding. In fact, you would hope for the opposite, I.e, sessions to get better as you take more and more of her. If you plot service quality over time, is it going top right or bottom right?

There are also things one should expect to NOT see and experience from their "special girls".

1. The feeling that "I am your special girl, and hence I own you, and you are exclusive to me".

2. Extending #1, expect monetary compensation outside the sessions. I don't even pay my sugar babes when not meeting them, and club girls are not even sugar babes. Compensation should be strictly limited commensurately to what's provided in the session.

3. Other sentimental and emotional baggage laid down at your doorstep as an extension of #1.

If the girl gives as much of the first group as possible and none of the second grouping, then she will really show me that she is a special girl.

I know some guys have the litmus test that if the girl really likes you, she would give you free stuff, free sessions etc. That has never been my thing, because I want to keep this free of conflict in both directions. I neither want free stuff and free extras from her, nor do I want to pay her more than I need to.

PS. Implicit in my note is the view that a club girl can never ever truly become a real relationship. I think once a relationship started as a paid sex deal, it will be well nigh impossible for it to morph into a normal relationship. Thats my cynical view. So, if a guy falls for the girls words that it will blossom into something more than paid sex, it is to his detriment. IMHO.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253807]OK, I will bite 😀😀

I would hope she does not actually miss me because that implies it became some sort of bonding. Then, an obligation would be created on my part. "Please give me x, because I miss you and you are special to me".

I do have a few special girls in the club, and by that I mean I take a sssion with them whenever they are in the club at the same time as me. Also, sessions with them tend to be at least an hour long, and likely even longer. However, I rarely take sessions lasting more than 2 hours.[/QUOTE]I truncated your response for bits sake but all very valued inputs. To me, the your special card is similar to the Bears Maybe Later card. A little taste to try and keep you coming back with zero commitment. I've had a couple that seem we have a good chemistry and all have broken one of your rules eventually and then find themselves on the past favorites list.

Well my note regarding the economy can be taken further when considering how Germany and Japan does so well at it. As mentionned, their society is so that they make humans into robots. This in turn creates a dehumanised social sphere, and quite possibly one of the results that comes from this is a liberal view on sex. In Japan it shows itself in terms of hentai, and all these weired kinks, while in Germany we get FKK's and sex shops etc littering the streets and metro stations.

A robotic liberal country is also allways less religious than a humanised and religious country such as USA, Poland, Italy or Turkey for example. And this harms the economy compared to Japan and Germany where you possibly get more people like Mr. Ho with a coockie cutter view on sex and relationships.

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religion-economic-development-wealth-gdp-bristol-university-a8453386.html[/URL]

In Japan even women skip relationships and go for the same easy one night stands with giggolos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/vHHpjjKzZTU[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253800]I will give a hypothetical example here. Say, there is a monger who likes to take girls on their first sessions of the day. He will grab girls as soon as they come into the club, and then takes rimming and CIM with every girl of his. Then he will post here "all you sucker losers in the club, you are mooching off me. You basically swallow my cum and eat my shit". This he posts twice a day, in exactly identical words, for the next 5 years. Yes, it is on topic, related to mongering, and in a technical sense even accurate. If that is something that is hugely value add and increases your reading pleasure, I will leave to you.[/QUOTE]To be honest I would find that to be quite humorous indeed.

As a sidenote many people in the organic movement believe we should eat each other shit alot more due to its positive effect on our immune system if we attract intestinal bacterias from other people. Several other species do this on purpose in order to survive. And those who do not eat each others shit die out. So some of the hygyenic regulations we now have are possibly just bullshit. I personally believe we are given diseases on purpose through environmental toxins, vaccines, poisonous water and food supplies (monsanto), infected bugs etc etc. All a part of Agenda 21.

Here is one example of an elephant taking a bite of shit:

[URL]https://youtu.be/VbPdrqdXx0g[/URL]

P.S: probiotic is basically just shit as well. And you buy it in the store for 20 euro what you can get from your friends toilet bumps for free. LOL!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2253686]I admit it, if you are not fucking, I feel sorry for you, if you are married, oh holy molly, what have you done to you for turning you into organic ATM slave machine who do not know wife had put it in her mouth, anal and pussy by many guy around the block including me in her early 20's LOL.[/QUOTE]Hypothetical question regarding ATM machine men. Besides prostitutes, are there women in this world who make a high income?

Can it be possible that these are also married women? If a man can't happily exist in a dual income relationship, it seems that is a personal problem rather than a societal one.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2253945]

As a sidenote many people in the organic movement believe we should eat each other shit alot more due to its positive effect on our immune system if we attract intestinal bacterias from other people. Several other species do this on purpose in order to survive. And those who do not eat each others shit die out. [/QUOTE]Mashallah Pistons, now I know why so many mongers here boast of their rimming exploits. It's just basic survival instincts at work.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2253455]I sense if I was 35 years younger, I would appreciate his words more than the advice given to me by my traditionally conservative parents.[/QUOTE]Who on ISG believes in the traditional marriage or has beliefs that align with those of your conservative parents? Probably nobody.

Society tells us that mongering is a sin. But all ISGers love (or are addicted) to mongering. So by his logic, we mongers are not brainwashed by society. If we were brainwashed, then (1) we would not be mongering and (2) we would not be on this forum. But this is a mongering forum! He is essentially preaching to the choir. Is this common behavior in Japan? To present an opinion to an audience that ALREADY agrees with you? But then repeat it over and over again?

If any ISGer is currently married or gets married in the future, they will continue seeing WGs, I suspect. If that is indeed true, then I believe all of us, ISGers are against traditional marriage, are we not? Also, I suspect most hardcore mongers are non-conformist so they would be open-minded to other forms of non-traditional relationships (open marriages, platonic-companion marriages caretaker, having multiple wives etc).

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2254114]Mashallah Pistons, now I know why so many mongers here boast of their rimming exploits. It's just basic survival instincts at work.[/QUOTE]Indeed it is! Subconsciously they all know it. Society and german regulators working with the UN on their Agenda 21 depopulation strategy is trying to fool us into not eating shit. So we can more easily die out.

Fools!

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2254121]Who on ISG believes in the traditional marriage or has beliefs that align with those of your conservative parents? Probably nobody.

Society tells us that mongering is a sin[/QUOTE]Not I. This apple fell not only far from the tree it rolled down hills and get blown by the wind even further and somehow ended up as far from the tree as an apple can. In my case that would be Texas. Or to contrast with my parents and their beliefs on one of the holiest days of the Jewish year they would have been in temple while I on the other hand was at Dietzenbach that day and at night pointing at pussies in T-32 asking ' spritzen?

Does society as a whole think mongering is a sin? I do not think so, but I do think much of society does. Perhaps most but not all. I know many non-mongers who do not view this as a sin. I am sure the religious right in this country for example finds it worthy of capital punishment or castration. At my family Thanksgiving dinner in a very heavy blue area outside the Capital Beltway in Maryland the entire family (22 present) found FKK stories very entertaining. We talked about upsells for 50 e, how the whole thing worked and no one thinks of me as a sinner many believe in legalization. Several loved the story of the guy at Artemis whose wife told him to go fuck a girl there once a week as she was too tired at her age to do it much and didn't want him finding a real girlfriend. They found it funny how Germans want full time and Turks want out of the room ASAP, asked me which one I was had to tell them I am more Ottoman in nature. Others were shocked to hear of public blowjobs than the couples argued (jokingly) whether the husband would stop and stare. We didn't cover the spritzen parts or location where such activities occur but of the five desserts or so one was a chocolate creampie. I had to keep quiet with that one.

I am sure the KK family dinner is an exception to the rule but we can't be alone. Many non-mongers both family and non-family think mongering is better than entering a monogamous agreement not to adhere to it. I personally do not judge married mongers but I think that is where my family for example would draw the line of mongering turning from a game / adventure in to a ' sin' and I put in quotes to stress I am personally not judging my fellow married mongers who do this for whatever reason.

I am not too in to religion (as seen above in this post) but could it be some religions tell us ' patronizing prostitution ' (married or not) might be a sin? One could argue much of societal's thoughts has religious influence perhaps less today than yesteryear (Middle Ages).

I do not think all of society finds mongering a sin. I do think much of society does however. And they can all go fuck themselves :D

[blue]Enough. REP - Repetitive Posts.[/blue]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2254121]Who on ISG believes in the traditional marriage or has beliefs that align with those of your conservative parents? Probably nobody.

If any ISGer is currently married or gets married in the future, they will continue seeing WGs, I suspect. If that is indeed true, then I believe all of us, ISGers are against traditional marriage, are we not? Also, I suspect most hardcore mongers are non-conformist so they would be open-minded to other forms of non-traditional relationships (open marriages, platonic-companion marriages caretaker, having multiple wives etc).[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure about this part. Open minded yes, but against traditional marriage, not necessarily. Since I first got on this forum 10 years ago, dozens of hardcore guys have come and gone over the years and many are actually able to remain faithful in their marriages. In fact the ISGer who introduced me to GoldenTime 10 years ago, my ObiWan if you will, has settled into his family life and does not monger any longer.

I personally did not visit a single WG for 3 years when I was in a serious relationship / engagement. Now I will admit that before I quit the first time, I had probably only visited less than 100 WGs in my life so I do believe that the longer you do this hobby and the more intense you are involved, the less likely you are to put it down if the opportunity to settle down presents itself. That's why I often say that the younger guys, myself included, are more at risk for troublesome and lonely futures if you don't actively keep yourself grounded and maintain some self awareness. If you have kids and are widowed and divorced, it's one thing, but the childless bachelors such as myself are better served in keeping a foot in the dating world.

Even if mongering remains your main focus, I've found out that dating on a regular basis has kept up my intimate social skills with women. It helps avoid the "socially inept" monger image perceived by the girls that you regularly cite.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2253748]I agree with your cookie cutter take on the life in most cases. But on this one maybe not so much. Because this seems to me to be contradicting of your other views on mongering and life.

To make a long post a bit shorter: Why does it matter how many cocks a woman has sucked off? Are you religious? Why does it matter how many girls a guy has fucked? I am sure you don't mind. And you keep fucking girls who has fucked 1000+ guys before you all the time. And you get better sex from these girls than you do from a novice sucker without experience! I would suggest you rather think of it as sports for the girls. The more they fuck, the better they get at it! LOL.

I was about to start dating a girl a few years back and she asked me how many girls I had fucked. I told her first (a lie) that I didn't remember. But as she pressed on it I said I had only fucked 18 girls. She got mad at me. I reverted my story by claiming a few were just blowjobs, so I suppose they didn't count. And I told her 12 instead. She still got mad at me. Because she had only fucked 7 guys (She claimed I was a guy ****. LOL! I kept making excuses, but to no avail. She keeps me as a friend on facebook though, so I think it is only a jealousy thingy. But is says a lot about why people in a relationship cares about these things. How many they have fucked etc. And it is sickening how extremely possessive some people are about it. Then again I thought that was completely contradictory to your take on mongering. But do you really think only guys should sleep around? And not girls? Or maybe I missread you?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I understand and this I admit, this is my thing, it is just something in the way kind of feeling and I play along for awhile, but I begin to see no point in remaining in such relationship for long period of time.

And hey, this is this big mongering world always keep on calling me LOL.

Many posters talk about addiction, but I think mongering is not an addiction as long as one can do it with in their expense budget. I think mongering is more like a life style some men rationally choose in 21st century.

No I am not religious, but I went to Cologne last time when I was in Germany just to go and see cathedral, then went back to Duss right after to attend sessions in living room, which was odd contrasting experience LOL.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2254140]I am not too in to religion (as seen above in this post) but could it be some religions tell us ' patronizing prostitution ' (married or not) might be a sin? One could argue much of societal's thoughts has religious influence perhaps less today than yesteryear (Middle Ages).

I do not think all of society finds mongering a sin. I do think much of society does however. And they can all go fuck themselves :D[/QUOTE]I would venture to say that just about every monger in this forum agrees with above statements. As a group, hardcore mongers are probably more free spirits than the general populace. Definitely not brainwashed by society.

Even if one had an extremely negative opinion of religion or believed that religion mentally shackled men from pursuing true happiness in FKKs, this would be the WRONG audience to preach to. Because if one is reading this forum, then they removed those mental shackles, and strayed from the conservative tenets of religion long ago.

Maybe "sin" was not the correct word. Deplorable, maybe?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2254161] Deplorable, maybe?[/QUOTE]Are you referring to the Trump Voters?

:D

[QUOTE=Pistons;2254139]Indeed it is! Subconsciously they all know it. Society and german regulators working with the UN on their Agenda 21 depopulation strategy is trying to fool us into not eating shit. So we can more easily die out.

Fools![/QUOTE]Well, it is pointing finger mentality that lead to all the regulations surrounding German FKK including last July law application. Which I found few posters do via enforcing their belief about emotional connections and relationship with women they have sex with. Well, this is not for me.

I am professional prostitute hunter, I admit to my self and I hope regulations and law stay as it is, well it was, but now I hope they will take it easy on regulating German FKK further, but realistically, they will keep pointing fingers at this and that in FKK industry and regulating some of things that we enjoy in German FKK.

Free spirit thinking is criticized by mass majority people because it is different to what we are taught in society, but for professional prostitute hunter mongers, it is a battle worth fighting for because what we get in return is priceless LOL!