Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Voyager1;1794903]I just returned from Addict. I got there at 11:00 and chose Yind for one hour oily. I like the rooms as they seem to above average for its class. Looking at the line up I would say there were lots of 7. 5 and no one really stood out. I liked how Yind fit into the dress. In the room, after the obligatory shower I got a really good oily. I think it was too good as I started to relax. Something detrimental to my full staff standing at the sight of Yind undressing. After the massage is when things started unwinding. To begin with there was a lot of hand and breast rubbing and very little else. I kept thinking any moment now I am going to have a BBBJ. But no that is not what transpired. My little guy is just not satisfied as the bar, having spent several days in Frankfurt, has been set high. Minimum of which demands BBBJ. Five years ago when I was in Bangkok last I remember seeing a really hot girl in front of a massage parlor on this street that I took. And she too did similar things. I had forgotten the name of the place and now I think I have found it again.

I could tell Yind was getting concerned about my little guy when it would keep loosing attention. Hand and breast stimulation only go so far. A CBJ finally ensued at about forty min into the session. I asked her for a sixty nine. To which she hesitantly obliged. I could look but do nothing else as she would keep pulling away. After a few minof this she reverted back to doing a hand job. By this time I was starting loose interest as I was not getting much out of this other then a hand job because a CBJ was not cutting it. Now I am fifty min into the session and got a concerned warning from Yind to hurry up as the place was closing. Finally I told her to go back to the sixty nine so that I can get some visual stimulation while she does her hand job. I can say that she is really hot from behind. Two minutes of the visuals and I was done.

I am pretty sure I am not going to be returning here again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Despite having passed by Addict many times I haven't ever gone in, probably largely because of what seems like mixed reports on the level of service provided there. I believe I have sometimes read that BBBJ's are provided there by some of the girls, and it may also be possible to get two shots if one asks in advance and the girl agrees, although this would not be common and would likely depend on an extra tip.

My question for those who have patronized the place, do CBJ's prevail, with the occasional girl doing a BBBJ, or it is the other way around? Similarly for 2-shots vs. one. And while we are at it, how common is DFKing? I know it is possible to go in and start asking for girls who do each of these things, but at a point that can become rather tedious. So can anyone provide information about the service there generally, and which direction it leans regarding things like BBBJ's, DFK, etc.? Thanks in advance for any clarifications.

[QUOTE=Voyager1;1794903]I just returned from Addict. I got there at 11:00 and chose Yind for one hour oily. I like the rooms as they seem to above average for its class. Looking at the line up I would say there were lots of 7. 5 and no one really stood out. I liked how Yind fit into the dress. In the room, after the obligatory shower I got a really good oily. I think it was too good as I started to relax. Something detrimental to my full staff standing at the sight of Yind undressing. After the massage is when things started unwinding. To begin with there was a lot of hand and breast rubbing and very little else. I kept thinking any moment now I am going to have a BBBJ. But no that is not what transpired. My little guy is just not satisfied as the bar, having spent several days in Frankfurt, has been set high. Minimum of which demands BBBJ. Five years ago when I was in Bangkok last I remember seeing a really hot girl in front of a massage parlor on this street that I took. And she too did similar things. I had forgotten the name of the place and now I think I have found it again.

I could tell Yind was getting concerned about my little guy when it would keep loosing attention. Hand and breast stimulation only go so far. A CBJ finally ensued at about forty min into the session. I asked her for a sixty nine. To which she hesitantly obliged. I could look but do nothing else as she would keep pulling away. After a few minof this she reverted back to doing a hand job. By this time I was starting loose interest as I was not getting much out of this other then a hand job because a CBJ was not cutting it. Now I am fifty min into the session and got a concerned warning from Yind to hurry up as the place was closing. Finally I told her to go back to the sixty nine so that I can get some visual stimulation while she does her hand job. I can say that she is really hot from behind. Two minutes of the visuals and I was done.

I am pretty sure I am not going to be returning here again.[/QUOTE]Did you tell her that CBJ was unacceptable during the session? Did you complain to the mamasan on the way out? Truth be told things are not going to get better unless we all stop accepting poor performance. There were a few posts to this effect earlier in the week.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1794992]Did you tell her that CBJ was unacceptable during the session? Did you complain to the mamasan on the way out? Truth be told things are not going to get better unless we all stop accepting poor performance. There were a few posts to this effect earlier in the week.[/QUOTE]I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.

[QUOTE=JoshInyu;1794997]I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai.

Now I'm sure there is a lot of variability among us guys as to whether going down a list with the mama-san is tiresome, but for me one of the reasons I go to the confirmed PSE oilies is because one usually doesn't need to do this, except perhaps for A+ service (although unfortunately even in this regard the times they are a changin').

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1795011]I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai.

Now I'm sure there is a lot of variability among us guys as to whether going down a list with the mama-san is tiresome, but for me one of the reasons I go to the confirmed PSE oilies is because one usually doesn't need to do this, except perhaps for A+ service (although unfortunately even in this regard the times they are a changin').[/QUOTE]As I stated before, I certainly understand that some gals don't provide A+ and I appreciate it when it is listed on the website. I think one can count on BBBJ et al from the PSE shops. Sadly when you take one step down to places like Addict, there are no guarantees. When Addict first opened each gal had a page in the "book" and that listed the services the gal was willing to engage in. After the raid by the authorities last October pics disappeared. So unfortunately now we have to go down a list with the mamasan at non-PSE shops. Yes, "times are a changin'" and not for the better when it comes to P4 P in BKK.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1795011]I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai.

Now I'm sure there is a lot of variability among us guys as to whether going down a list with the mama-san is tiresome, but for me one of the reasons I go to the confirmed PSE oilies is because one usually doesn't need to do this, except perhaps for A+ service (although unfortunately even in this regard the times they are a changin').[/QUOTE]Yep, perhaps your list is a lot longer than mine, LOL. I keep mine to the bare minimum requirements and any extras that happen spontaneously in the session are a bonus. In a PSE shop you could ask for only the girls that do it all or send an email first to list out your requirements. You could even make a template e-mail and just add the address of the shops you are interested in. Of course some shops are better than others at responding.

Even with all these precautions I still end up with some less than stellar experiences. Mostly because the girl and I just don't connect at a visceral level. There is bound to be some disappointment in our chosen hobby for whatever reasons.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1795011]I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai. [/QUOTE]I'll go even further with your point and say my experience, perhaps limited compared to many here with only about 15 so-called PSE oily massage shop visits to draw from over the years and as recently as last week, is that it is pretty much a waste of time to cover which girl will perform which service and how well with the mamasan or the papasan. Ultimately, they have no idea what really happens when those girls are alone in the room with a customer. Even enthusiastic customer testimonials to them on the way out don't matter much because too many guys today think, as an example, that a handjob that happens to include some oral foreplay is a "blowjob" or a "BBBJ".

I have not met the mamasan or papasan who has recommended a girl based on my very short and quite ordinary list of requests (slow and easy BBBJ CIM being chief among them) who has gotten it right. And I have asked several. Typically, in the room the highly recommended girl will either be totally incapable of slowing down her action from rapid fire jack-hammer level or will cum-dodge at the end as quickly as a total first-timer. I've had at least two girls in the PSE oilies who were highly recommended by the mamasan for my humble requirements mentioned above flat out state after the door closes behind us that she will not be performing a CIM finish for any blowjob now or ever.

My suggestion is anyone who wants to make sure he gets a particular level of service from a PSE massage shop girl he has never been with before these days is to cover every important detail of it with the girl in front of the mamasan before selecting her and do not under any circumstances select a girl who does not reply with a clear and unambiguous "Yes", not just a head nod or a big seemingly agreeable smile. Does that sound even more tiresome than merely covering it with a mamasan? You bet it is. But it really is the only way I will deal with the so-called PSE massage shops from now on.

[QUOTE=BKKguru;1794518]2) If I have to guess, Pooky appears to be 26 or 27 years old. Did she have a belly or any stretch marks?

Thanks,

BKKguru.[/QUOTE]Yes, that seems to be about her age.

No stretch marks that I could see but the lighting in the room isn't very strong and anyhow some minimal stretch marks don't put me off, so if any, they may have not registered on me.

She is not the small skinny spinner type, but in European eyes she is still very slim. Just "soft" enough to make hugging and touching her a real pleasure.

[QUOTE=JoshInyu;1794997]I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.[/QUOTE]Haha, it seems good ol' Eden Club will soon be that last place where you can get all the extras (even A+ if you choose a girl on the left of the yellow line) without asking beforehand if these are on the menu. Everytime I have been there I got at least one CIM (without swallowing though) without even asking and although I always indicate when I'm about to cum (so she can withdraw if she likes) the Eden girls never scare for CIM.

[QUOTE=JoshInyu;1794997]I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.[/QUOTE]There are many places that doesn't work LOL. Mamasan / Papasans will lie through their teeth and say anything to get customers to stay, they just look like cattle ready to be slaughtered (because more are coming on the next plane in their eyes). If you go to a place regularly you will find out who provides what and they will not lie then as they care about a repeat customer. But if you show up for the first time, they will figure out what NOT to say and what TO say in order to get you to stay and spend money. If it is Thai owned, then they don't give 2 flying fucks about whether or not customers leave happy as they all collude and the different shops are owned by the same people.

[QUOTE=JoshInyu;1795025]Yep, perhaps your list is a lot longer than mine, LOL. I keep mine to the bare minimum requirements and any extras that happen spontaneously in the session are a bonus. In a PSE shop you could ask for only the girls that do it all or send an email first to list out your requirements. You could even make a template e-mail and just add the address of the shops you are interested in. Of course some shops are better than others at responding.

Even with all these precautions I still end up with some less than stellar experiences. Mostly because the girl and I just don't connect at a visceral level. There is bound to be some disappointment in our chosen hobby for whatever reasons.[/QUOTE]I imagine that doing it by email is a good idea, since now the onus is on the management to actually provide. Whereas if you just walk in and ask, they are afraid if they don't say the right thing at that moment, with what ever limited supply they have, they will lose a customer. If you email ahead of time, they can easily ask around via phone and setup everything smoothly. And again, the onus is on them to acquire a customer, whereas if you walk in a shop you are considered to have already given them your money in their greedy eyes.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1795226]I imagine that doing it by email is a good idea, since now the onus is on the management to actually provide. Whereas if you just walk in and ask, they are afraid if they don't say the right thing at that moment, with what ever limited supply they have, they will lose a customer. If you email ahead of time, they can easily ask around via phone and setup everything smoothly. And again, the onus is on them to acquire a customer, whereas if you walk in a shop you are considered to have already given them your money in their greedy eyes.[/QUOTE]I have come up with a simple solution that I will use next time I go to Addict. With the full lineup in front of me I will ask the mamasan to dismiss the girls who don't DFK, then the girls who won't give BBBJ, then the girls who won't do MSG, and finally the girls who won't rim. My guess is there will be no one left. If there is I will partake knowing that the gals will deliver as it would be a huge loss of face not to. If not I will tell the mamansan this is why her biz is flagging.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1795154]Haha, it seems good ol' Eden Club will soon be that last place where you can get all the extras (even A+ if you choose a girl on the left of the yellow line) without asking beforehand if these are on the menu. Everytime I have been there I got at least one CIM (without swallowing though) without even asking and although I always indicate when I'm about to cum (so she can withdraw if she likes) the Eden girls never scare for CIM.[/QUOTE]BTW, the performance standards at Bongkot and Tulip are pretty good at the moment. I think Saeng realizes that some of us are very unhappy with the service we are receiving at many PSE places and has made it her mantra to return to the good ole days.

Anyone tried massage & barber salons in Soi 22? Any nice action and shave?

Went to Dream Heaven on Soi 33 at 8 PM, wasn't that much to chose from. I think the best time to go there is before 3:30 PM as it seems they are too busy from then until 7 and by then a lot of the talent leaves for the day it seems. Anyway the reason I like the Soi 33 is the girls are more experienced and less of the Asian-doll-good-girl-complex which I'm not really into. I only got the Body 2 body massage for like 1600 baht for an hour. Good teasing / technique from an experienced provider. One negative remark about DH33, they are not nearby other places and they are a bit of a walk away from all other related adult venues. So you kind of get stuck there if you don't like what you see, and the mamasan is a bit greedy (like all of them really) so there is pressure to pick a girl from what is sometimes too slim of a line-up.

I later went onto Dream heaven Soi 24/1 that night and got there at like 10 PM. I walked down that soi about 2 times and didn't really see anything I fancied until I spot a particular girl working at Dream heaven (Soi 24/1). She was definitely cute and built the way I like (not a frail Asian doll, had a good body). Look, this girl has got a giant ass / thighs (muscle / thick) and small waist, it's pretty insane. She's one of the few asian women who *really* has a butt, not just sort of / kinda has one. Decent tits too. I highly recommend going just to see that thing because is NICE. She's kind of young and her service wasn't bad but it wasn't good either. I got a good BBBJ though, and I think the lack of great service may have been on my part as I was on my second round and was tired that night.

In short, I highly recommend just swinging by Dream Heaven Soi 24/1 just to check out the ass on the one of the chicks who work there. I even more highly recommend getting a room with her in it if you are an ass man like I am, as those are kind of rare to come by. She is from Myanmar if it matters (I've noticed some of the women who come from there are both really cute but also busty / curvy).

Finally, some random intel about Nataree. Thursdays are not a good day to go because that's when the onsite doctor is there. This intel comes from Stickman's weekly and I concur. I have thought it was strange that they would have such a dip in Thursday as well yet Wed was busy.