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[QUOTE=HDN2015;2740556]She lied to you. If she wanted to relax, she would go in an other place. When they are visible, they are in operation.
The things is: they still can select who can penetrate them (like with women in the normal life).[/QUOTE]I am still crying for all the "No No's" I fished.
Sometimes you say "No" in the wrong moment, sometimes you catch a "No" in the right moment.
But A is still open! Still open!
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2741208]Homie, if you even counting the guys, then report a bit more about the guys. How do they look like? Age range? Fit bodies? Could you steel the horses with? From which gang, north-wedding?
The four legged bandit is your phone in Club house!
However, thanks for the information.[/QUOTE]LOL what. Did not think anyone will care about the guys. I was counting the guys to give an idea of the ratio. There were guys from all ages, ethnicities, color, body shape and sizes. Ranging from model to old fat hairy. There were guys who came by themselves to group of friends.
Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time.
This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row.
Thursday 11 PM.
At the desk I was told 90 to get in and every girl was starting at 70 and 10 per drink chip. Paid the fee got a few drink chips got the robe band and watch and went to see what it was all about.
As soon as I got out the locker room, I passed allot of guys in the spiral staircase and went to the main room with the bar. (at this time I had no idea why the staircase was filled with men leaning over the railing and looking up). I enter the main room and its a sausage fest, about 6 guys to every girl and the girls were not to my liking. I like my women young, in shape, and natural, what I saw was mostly old looking women (maybe its all the cigarettes they smoke), women with oversized fake tits that were so terribly done the waves of the sac is visible or the implant is too high and the natural tits sagged too low, one very skinny girl tits was so bag they looked like 2 deflated balloons pinned to a wall. Some were trashy looking with lots of tattoos, one of the girls even looked like she was 5 months pregnant she mainly stood on the left side by the door to come in. I sat down at the bar and got a drink and tried talking to one girl, she brushed me off said she's busy then proceeds to turn her back to me and sit there doing nothing. I moved over to wall by the couches as some girl started dancing to Down With the Sickness on the stripper pole so I wanted to watch. A bigger girl came to watch too and said something to me in Spanish (I hardly speak it but I understand little of it) So I replied back to her in Spanish saying I don't speak Spanish so she starts laughing and we had a quick chat. She said she was from Cali, Colombia and we talked for a bit but I was not interested, as someone who goes to Colombia often I did not fly to Berlin to fuck a Colombiana especially when I don't fuck girls her size when I'm in Colombia. Passed it up and saw a perfect one, blonde with perky natural tits, she refused to make eye contact with me so I walked over and tried to talk to her, she instantly said "get another girl, I'm busy" then proceeds to walk back to the where the stripper pole is and sits on the couch by the door leading to the buffet room, and she sat there doing nothing. Started talking to another girl that looked like a Bratz Doll, straight jet black hair natural perky tits with pierced nipples but her lip injections made her look like a duck. She was just standing by the bar and as soon as I said "Hi" she just said "I'm busy" and walked away. At this point I'm starting to think its either me or these girls are rude as fuck! I sat down, and another girl kept making eye contact with me so I waved her over and we began to talk. She said she was from Turkey, big tits but a little saggy, wasn't my thing but she was all natural and I didn't see any tattoos so I started to negotiate. She wanted 90 for BBBJ and sex, at this point I didn't care because my head was spinning from all the cigarette smoke and I couldn't stand the smell, an extra 20 for BBBJ I didn't mind. We exit the main area, and those guys were still hanging out at the railing by the stairs. This is when I learned what was up those stairs, about 20 rooms but only 2 keys were on the wall for vacancy. Sex was boring, lame BJ, no deep throat just sucking on only the head then she jumps on for 5 minutes where she was breathing in my face and her breath stunk like an ashtray. I decide to switch her around so I don't have to smell her breath, switch to doggie and I can smell the smoke smell in her hair, she starts yelling "cum for me baby, cum for me" very annoying as its the "papi leche" the chicas do in DR. Then there was a fishy smell that made me start going soft. I had to just force myself to finish paid her then left, the guys were still by the staircase.
Friday 12 AM.
It was even worse. I walked in and passed a bunch of guys by the hand railing about 10 of them, again and couldn't understand why. Proceeded in the bar area and I repeatedly saw the same girls who told me no, tell other guys "I'm busy" or "get other girl" then they proceed to go sit on the couch and do nothing. So seeing this, it was not just a "me" thing, it looks like they were only interested in really old men or Asian men. The girls were basically the same ones from Thursday, all a disappointment for what I like. There were about 10 girls and about 70 men. SMH. I almost dropped my drink when this woman walked by who looked like a body builder with big fake tits as I thought it was a man at first. Then there was very skinny girl with diamond tattooed between her tits sitting on the couch, first she was was yelling what sounds like "prostate massage" but I could be mistaken then she started making sex noises, with all the smoke smells I was feeling lightheaded so went to see what was downstairs and get fresh air. Nothing down there but bunch of old men twice or three times my age walking around naked. I went right back upstairs with the quickness and the guys were still at the railing looking up. So I decided to stick around and see what's up. There were 3 girls on the side playing a game with 2 guys, one of the girls had on green fishnet outfit some random guy walked by and tried to get one of the girls and I just overheard the girl say she's busy then she went back to play the game. I saw a girl come downstairs I never saw before, all natural and just what I wanted, she went with the guy to get money from the small locker to pay her and as soon as she reentered the stair area one of the guys that was standing out in the stairway since I arrived approached her and took her upstairs, she never had a chance to go back in the main room where the bar is. I stood there and watched this happen over and over again with different girls I have never seen in the main area, and this is where I understood why all the guys were waiting at the railing. As soon a girl came downstairs they snatch them up and the leftovers end up in the Bar / Smoking area. Seeing this, it was so frustrating as these guys was just picking off all the good girls as they came downstairs. I just called it a night and left as its not worth it to me, maybe someone else like this type of pussy sniping by the railing but not me.
So far I'm not impressed at all.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2741920]Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time. This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row. So far I'm not impressed at all.[/QUOTE]Look man, the P4 P scene suffered all over the world as a result of the pandemic. And the industry simply hasn't had enough time to recover yet. So, these days you can't expect to show up at an FKK believing that the experience will be good (for one thing "supply" is still messed up just like in other industries). I mean, haven't you been reading all of the other reports? Both optics and service are down. [B]Way down[/B]! I'll say what I have said many times before. Mongers need to give things time to correct themselves and get back to something that looks like "normal". Anyone who writes off the FKKs based on what they've seen this summer, or based on what they see this fall, is making a grave error! I would say that we've got to wait at least until summer 2023. Then we shall see. In the meantime, mongers need to be adjusting their expectations [B]downward[/B] and not act like the way it is now is the way that it was then, or the way that it always will be in the future. This is true for mongering destinations all over the world. Have some perspective and [B]patience[/B]. I for one remain on the sidelines waiting to see the improvements that will convince me to return. Not wasting my time and money going to Germany to monger at this time.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2741920]Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time.
This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row.
So far I'm not impressed at all.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this place hasn't changed. I have ended up in Berlin due to business travels over years and visited Artemis here and there and it's been like that for years. Ratio of men to women is uncomfortably high, and the overall number and variety of girls is low. The main area is tight with limited seating, totally filled with smoke. Lately on my visits, I have not seen the downstairs bar open, so there isn't much reason for girls to hang out downstairs either, they all stay in the main area. So, it's only natural that guys will camp out by the stairs and watch the girls go by from that position.
The best layout I've seen in FKK Sharks in Darmstadt where it's much more spread out and more comfortable, more fresh air, and way more variety of girls too. Heck, it even costs less for entry.
As you observed, the area of the spiral stair is a junction, this the best place to see the in & out movements.
About the ratio male / female, IMHO this is a translation of the capitalisic equation: demand / supply.
As long as the demand will be high, we will find out prostitutes who will tell us they are busy (they make their selection) .
I appreciated that Art back in the days, since the covid, I relocated my activities in Barcelona.
I waiting for the collapse of German industrial economy due to the shortage of gas supply, when this moment will happen, I think price will decrease in Art, and the nice German beauties will replace East European.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2742362]As you observed, the area of the spiral stair is a junction, this the best place to see the in & out movements.
About the ratio male / female, IMHO this is a translation of the capitalisic equation: demand / supply.
As long as the demand will be high, we will find out prostitutes who will tell us they are busy (they make their selection) .
I appreciated that Art back in the days, since the covid, I relocated my activities in Barcelona.
I waiting for the collapse of German industrial economy due to the shortage of gas supply, when this moment will happen, I think price will decrease in Art, and the nice German beauties will replace East European.[/QUOTE]
My Wish as well.
By the way have you seen this German Beauty, the new in Porn Industry "Dolly Dyson". Read hair (Bottled), Age:23 Height: 176 cm (5 ft 9 in) . She has played in hardcore porn scenes
Generally Speaking most (if not all) of pornstars are available for booking. The question is only how much they will be charging, especially if they know you are so desperate and they are not into this scene without a huge incentive.
From information I have got, they could be booked from their social networking sites or if it is not working via their agents.
In the past, Erlebniswohnung, Insomnia sometimes sometimes have German beauties in the parties. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by now.
But they sometimes also go to swingers party such as KitKat. But you will need to lucky. To be fit and athletics, very good looking and reasonably will increase your chance.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2741920]Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time.
This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row.
Thursday 11 PM.
At the desk I was told 90 to get in and every girl was starting at 70 and 10 per drink chip. Paid the fee got a few drink chips got the robe band and watch and went to see what it was all about.
As soon as I got out the locker room, I passed allot of guys in the spiral staircase and went to the main room with the bar. (at this time I had no idea why the staircase was filled with men leaning over the railing and looking up). I enter the main room and its a sausage fest, about 6 guys to every girl and the girls were not to my liking. I like my women young, in shape, and natural, what I saw was mostly old looking women (maybe its all the cigarettes they smoke), women with oversized fake tits that were so terribly done the waves of the sac is visible or the implant is too high and the natural tits sagged too low, one very skinny girl tits was so bag they looked like 2 deflated balloons pinned to a wall..[/QUOTE]I'll be in Berlin next week, and I have to say this is the most disappointing review I've read on here. I don't have high expectations, but I don't want to be chasing girls or get rejected. If I wanted that I would go to a bar. I'm also going on Saturday, so I hope weekends are a little better.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2743152]I'll be in Berlin next week, and I have to say this is the most disappointing review I've read on here. I don't have high expectations, but I don't want to be chasing girls or get rejected. If I wanted that I would go to a bar. I'm also going on Saturday, so I hope weekends are a little better.[/QUOTE]We all have different tastes. I don't know how often I've read about two guys rating the same girl on opposite ends of the "attractive scale". Go enjoy. If you don't see a 10, take a 6 and have sex and then take another one. You are not going to find a area with 20 stunning porn actresses, but on the whole, it's a lot better than sitting on an airplane watching a bunch of overweight people try and buckle their seat belts. If you only want stunning models, then open a porn sight like Herge or something and "take matters into your own hands".
Among local mongers in Berlin there is a derogatory term: Rumbul. It means girls from Romania or Bulgaria, who are mostly pimped out on escort websites for cheap 90 Euro per hour outcall gigs. The other day I visited Artemis and ran into a girl from Bul by the name of Katharina. I had been in the room with her before, again I had an excellent session: She is slim, attractive, wonderful breasts, very good service. She usually is wearing some very sexy string lingerie. She is a bit of an exception in Artemis where most providers nowadays are quite artificial.
I was in Berlin for a couple of days and went to Artemis on Friday night at 10 am. Very easily connected by metro or taxi. As soon as you go through the parking lot in front you find a door and enter. There is reception where you pay 90 E and get a red band tied by which you can enter the club till 5 am. You are also given a electronic key on watch like band and a bath robe. As soon as you enter to the left there are small safes where use your electronic key of the number locker you open and keep your valuables and further enter you see larger lockers where you remove your clothes and shoes and keep them. Don't worry about being naked no one cares. You can go and take open shower and a piss. Wear sandals given and enter the club. As soon as you enter there is the smoking area with a bar. All non alcoholic drinks are free while alcoholic drink cost 10 E and you have to get the plastic cards for these at reception after giving the money. If cards are left over you can exchange back for the money when you leave. All the girls hangout here. And further inside is the pole dance area where once a hour a 10 min show occurs. And further inside the buffet area. You can go down the stairs which is the non smoking area where there is a jacuzzi, bar, steam, sauna, massage tables, porn watching screen, fitness Center. This is just to relax and lie down. There were some guys relaxing and no girls. After coming to the smoking zone the stairs continue up to another floor where the girls take you to private room to have sex.
After going to the smoking zone I saw around 15 girls and maybe 30 guys. Most girls were tall with silicone boobs and pumped up lips. Many were just lazing around with their group and having some free drinks and were least interested. I sat down for some time and started observing the girls. Some would come and talk to you about taking them back to the room. I saw a dark haired girl who was good looking with natural small tits and approached her. She quoted 70 E for sex with CBJ and extra for BBBJ, DATY. Her name was Emily from Bulgaria. Took her to the room on first floor which had mirrors and she gave a BBBJ, allowed me to penetrate her with fingers with a condom, no DFK and had than sex with a condom. After cumming she took me down to small safe where I paid 90 E. Afterwards went and had a shower and went back to smoking area. Had a beer watched some strip shows. I don't smoke so the smoke was very irritating. I wanted a couple of good looking German girls but their attitude put me off. Chatted with some. Saw a medium height dark haired girl with good face and medium silicone boobs with whom I chatted up. Her name was Shananya from Romania. Asked 70 E for CBJ, DATY, Fingering without penetration. Took her and went to another room. Room was cold. She kissed me all over made me hard and gave CBJ and allowed me full DATY. Nice pussy with no smell. And rode her in multiple positions with cover but couldn't come for a long time as I was spent many time last few days. So asked her to remove a condom and give a tight hand job and I came after some time. After which the same routine of payment and washed myself and changed my clothes and returned the key and left at 3 am.
The good things about the club was it's a good place to spend a lot of time from 12 noon to 5 am, see the girls in real time and approach them, free food and non alcoholic drinks, non judgmental staff who were thoroughly professional.
Cons were smoking area where the girls hang out is very irritating if you don't smoke, most girls are pumped up with silicone, can't chat with them for a long time as there aim is to take you and make you cum and get money, and after action they may demand more money.
I went to Artemis 8 days ago.
I arrived like 13.30, paid the 90 for the entrance and received the band, another rfid wristband and a wine color bathrobe. I mention the color because I suspect the color they chose for you is related to your nationality or something.
So inside its a big place there is a room with lockers, bath and showers, you can leave your stuff in the locker assigned to you, it can be opened only with the rfidwristband.
Since the entrance a grl was close to the reception and she took me to show all the club and she tried to take me upstairs to get a service, she got really mad when I say to her that I didn't want to go there (yet) she insisted and I said: the thing is that I don't want to be with you, so she got more angry and left. She was of the type of a tall girl medium, fake big tits and maybe fake big ass. I didn't accepted because its not my type at all and because I didn't yet see the others; anyway her fake ass was atractive and she catched me many times watching it.
After that I went to the bar, In there you will find the bigest quantity of girls, I entered with some shame and discretely because it looked (firstly) like a place to see and pick someone. At that moment there were like 10-15 girls there, more than the 80% with fake boobs and lips, but with good shape in general. I was looking for someone super white with beatiful eyes normal tits and ass and not so heavy but didn't find someone at that time.
Then I went outside of the bar and feeling that you can't be in the bar if you are not drinking or picking a girl, honestly I don't drink nothing more than wine, so I left.
In the corridor and the stairs, a lot of girls aproached me, some of them kind and others like pushing a lot to pick her to go upstairs. Because the day is starting they chase you a lot and its a little bit unconfortable. The clasic chat is there is your name, my name where are you from where I am and if you want to go upstairs if not when and why. What I learn from this is that if you say later they will push you again very soon if you say I don't want to be with you then she will not bother again but she will get a little bit upset.
So I went downstairs and there you can find the pool, the gym, the private jacuzzi, the sauna, the porn cinema (a very poor projector with less thant 70 inch screen and 3 rows of seats) and an exit to the solarium and the restaurant.
I decided to slow down a little bit and went outside to the solarium and the outside pool, there in the pool there is a free soda machine, and I was looking for the restaurant, seems that it is a door without any indication in the way thru. So after asking I noticed the entrance to the restaurant, I went there and took something for breakfast, the menu was ham, salami, cheese, cereal, milk, juice, eggs, pathe coffee and other stuff. When I was there 2 wrechks were there taking breakfast it was a good place to see them with clarity and how they act.
After that I went againt to the bar to check if someone new arrived I spent like 1. 5 hours watching, and yes there were like 4 more, but again nothing super special so I asked for a free soda there and stayed sit just watching and hunting. There you notice that there are girl groups, some in the entrance, some in the midle, girls alone behind the serving bar, and girls alone deep in the bar. Also I noticed the end of the bar is connected with the restaurant.
Agaain nothing special so I decided to go downstairs to the pool and rest, downstairs laying close to the pool its where I find more peace of getting pressed to pic someone 2 fuck, anyway there were like 5 girls who went there to ask for it, at that time I got expert on kick them politely. I am gathering forces, I am a little bit tired, Maybe later please.
So, in order to don't do my experience super long I went upstairs to the bar and started to look for someone 2 F I was looking for a Czech girl who offered me OwoC and 2 times cum for 90 e, She was in a table with another guy but I just made a signal to her that I was super ready. She come, we did a recap of the services and 2 times cum changed into one, so I said her you offered me 2 in that half so I skiped.
So I continued looking in the bar and found some other girl from Bulgary with a big ass and tits and supernatural 0 botox face. I agreed with her OwoC and 1 time cum for 90. Accepted and finally went uptstairs, she was kind, the oral was good and without also natural like an oral you get from a girlfriend not so porn, so good overall, I asked her to start to ride and moved my body to make point her ass to the mirror and the view at the end was far. Then I asked her my favorite: kind of doggy style with the belly touching completely the bed so I drilled her with power and feel her pussy getting warm and she asked me to come so I did it. It was very good, a little bit quick but I understanded they need to make money and the top earning time seems like it was starting for the grls.
17:00 pm I went to the restaurant for eat at that time they serve the afternoom meal, a lot of girls there eating, you can see the groups and you can see how some grls hate others its evident seems like a lot of competition going there. The food was buffet with 2 different dishes and some sides from the breakfast nothing spectacular or super fancy but with good taste, some soup and basically only that.
After lunch I went to the pool to wait a little bit for making a final last F, and also to wait for more girls to arrive. After some time I went back again to the bar and I saw a black girl with a natural spectacular and perfect ass. I talked to her and arranged everything, again it was OwoC and normal fuck for 90 e, all was good good oral and nice doggy style with that perfect jlo ass I rided some time and asked to change position but she suggested kepping it like this. After the sex we talked a lot I tell to her some parts of my life and she enjoyed listening, she was from Jamaica. I thing if I go back I will try to look for her.
In General all good, but nothing spectacular, a little bit anoying the pressure for go to fuck quickly and a lot of times by the girls but its reasonable they are there for the money. The food 8. 0 (not so many options), installations 8. 5 (cons super dirty wash bashin sink, poor xxx cinema projector), girls with super fake body few above 9. 0, maybe only 1 Iwillmarrythisgirl.
General experience 9. 0, I will try again.
[QUOTE=MuscleHetero;2747044]I was in Berlin for a couple of days and went to Artemis on Friday night at 10 am. Very easily connected by metro or taxi. As soon as you go through the parking lot in front you find a door and enter. There is reception where you pay 90 E and get a red band tied by which you can enter the club till 5 am. You are also given a electronic key on watch like band and a bath robe. As soon as you enter to the left there are small safes where use your electronic key of the number locker you open and keep your valuables and further enter you see larger lockers where you remove your clothes and shoes and keep them. Don't worry about being naked no one cares. You can go and take open shower and a piss. Wear sandals given and enter the club. As soon as you enter there is the smoking area with a bar. All non alcoholic drinks are free while alcoholic drink cost 10 E and you have to get the plastic cards for these at reception after giving the money. If cards are left over you can exchange back for the money when you leave. All the girls hangout here. And further inside is the pole dance area where once a hour a 10 min show occurs. And further inside the buffet area. You can go down the stairs which is the non smoking area where there is a jacuzzi, bar, steam, sauna, massage tables, porn watching screen, fitness Center. This is just to relax and lie down. There were some guys relaxing and no girls. After coming to the smoking zone the stairs continue up to another floor where the girls take you to private room to have sex.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a detailed report!
[QUOTE=JoakimG;2748823]I went to Artemis 8 days ago.
I arrived like 13.30, paid the 90 for the entrance and received the band, another rfid wristband and a wine color bathrobe. I mention the color because I suspect the color they chose for you is related to your nationality or something.
So inside its a big place there is a room with lockers, bath and showers, you can leave your stuff in the locker assigned to you, it can be opened only with the rfidwristband.
Since the entrance a grl was close to the reception and she took me to show all the club and she tried to take me upstairs to get a service, she got really mad when I say to her that I didn't want to go there (yet) she insisted and I said: the thing is that I don't want to be with you, so she got more angry and left. She was of the type of a tall girl medium, fake big tits and maybe fake big ass. I didn't accepted because its not my type at all and because I didn't yet see the others; anyway her fake ass was attractive and she catched me many times watching it.
After that I went to the bar, In there you will find the biggest quantity of girls, I entered with some shame and discretely because it looked (firstly) like a place to see and pick someone. At that moment there were like 10-15 girls there, more than the 80% with fake boobs and lips, but with good shape in general. I was looking for someone super white with beautiful eyes normal tits and ass and not so heavy but didn't find someone at that time.
Then I went outside of the bar and feeling that you can't be in the bar if you are not drinking or picking a girl, honestly I don't drink nothing more than wine, so I left.
In the corridor and the stairs, a lot of girls aproached me, some of them kind and others like pushing a lot to pick her to go upstairs. Because the day is starting they chase you a lot and its a little bit uncomfortable. The clasic chat is there is your name, my name where are you from where I am and if you want to go upstairs if not when and why. What I learn from this is that if you say later they will push you again very soon if you say I don't want to be with you then she will not bother again but she will get a little bit upset.
So I went downstairs and there you can find the pool, the gym, the private jacuzzi, the sauna, the porn cinema (a very poor projector with less thant 70 inch screen and 3 rows of seats) and an exit to the solarium and the restaurant.[/QUOTE]Great report JoakimG! Thank you.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2723675]My recent trip was on a Wednesday (lingerie day), which also happened to be BBQ day. This time I took the FEX (Flughafen Express?) from underneath * 1&2 at Brandenburg to Central station and then changed platform for S41/42 ringbahn to Westkreuz. All nicely signposted.
I arrived early enough for there still to be really tasty omelette left for breakfast. It was 38 see, so didn't bother going outside as I assumed there would be no one out there. There is now a mouthwash dispenser with small cups by the changing room sink, which I think is really useful.
After maybe an hour of chilling in the lounge with hardly any girls around, I decided to go for a walk and discovered that 10 of them were outside sunbathing naked by the pool. It was a fun atmosphere with music and BBQ food eventually being served. Around 20 other men by the pool were just staring at the hottest girls, one guy even ordered champagne for them. But no one seemed to be interested in fucking. The hottest girl there caught me staring at her naked but I didn't fancy approaching her in front of 20 other guys watching. I ate some BBQ beef, chicken and chips by the pool and eventually went inside for a session with a girl I've been with before.
Violetta (ROM) - Tall, really busty and curvy without being fat, black hair, facially 6/10. I knew from previous experience that she wouldn't rush and delivered a really nice and slow covered BJ to completion. First session is always a quick one, so I prefer not to rush it. 70.[/QUOTE]Just can't imagine how much cum you produce. LOL. Loved to read it full.