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Online prostitution mediation site owner sentenced. It's an interesting read for those wondering what's happening to the sex trade in this country.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/032/0003223540[/URL]

If you thought service in Korea was expensive, it is potentially even more expensive than you would have ever thought possible.

The John in the article spent nearly 100,000,000 won a year on one woman, resulting in 900,000,000 won having been spent over roughly 10 years. Doing some napkin math shows that the John could have gotten anywhere from 500 to 1,000 encounters with as many as 500 to 1,000 different women for the same amount of money he paid one woman for one year's worth of service. And only he, her and God know how many times he actually nutted in her each year for such a large sum.

This article is particularly interesting if you read between the lines and extrapolate how this might relate to those of us on this forum. Careful readers might begin to understand why many Korean women won't deal with foreigners. With foreigners who cannot communicate with the women, there isn't the remotest possibility that the women will be able to earn such a large paycheck. All the cute pouting and endless cries of Oppa won't earn a working woman an extra cent. Most foreigners aren't paying for an ego boost and have no intention of becoming the victim of a love scam. I think it's fair to say that we just want to fuck, and a lack of Korean communication skills actually makes us immune to the emotional tactics employed by these women.

Based on the high prices of Korean OP services in Seoul, it is likely that these women are on the hunt for just the sort sugar daddy that's described in the article. Logic suggests that if a guy is willing and able to pay 1,000,000 won for an hour or two, and a women is able to seduce such a guy and make him fall in love, then her potential earnings are limitless. I'm sure not all sugar daddies are this lucrative, but I'm almost certain that the women working at OPs can smell these sorts of guys from miles away.

However, if I had that much disposable income to throw around, who's to say that I wouldn't also pay a stipend or a retainer to keep a bit of young tail nearby. Who knows, maybe this amount of money is like pocket change to these guys.

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2818415]So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?

Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2818415]So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?

Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?[/QUOTE]That Elena isn't on MR anymore. Someone mentioned her using photos that weren't her. The Bella with reports here left Korea a long time ago and also isn't on the Seoul MR.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2818581]That Elena isn't on MR anymore. Someone mentioned her using photos that weren't her. The Bella with reports here left Korea a long time ago and also isn't on the Seoul MR.[/QUOTE]Never mind. Elena's ad's up now. Under the name Hot Elena.

I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop. I negotiated her to 160 k Won for 2 pops. Anyway, she refused to do BBFS or CIP even when I offered to throw in an extra 50 k it was just a hardline no for her. Fair enough. So we did do CFS and she also did BBBJ. She was very tight and definitely got my first load out very quickly. The only thing I'd complain about is that the room they put us in had a single bed which barely fit us even though she was short with a spinner type body. Like I would have rather us just go back to my hotel but I get that she had to work and couldn't leave that place.

All in all, both experiences were interesting. Definitely way cheaper than what I'd be able to get back in the US. Idk if I'd want to repeat with either girl simply because I think I could do better? This was my first time mongering in Seoul and I speak 0 Korean.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting. Could you describe the girl, bar, and mamasan? I've only been able to pass by there twice a while ago and didn't see anything tempting.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2819103]Thanks for reporting. Could you describe the girl, bar, and mamasan? I've only been able to pass by there twice a while ago and didn't see anything tempting.[/QUOTE]The mama-san was short and stocky had her hair up in a bun and was wearing what appeared to be a nightgown? I forgot what the name of the place she was at was called, but if you start at the bottom of the hill / street and walk about 2/3 of the way up it'll be about there, on your left. The actual girl was wearing a super lowcut top, her tits like popping out kinda in your face. Her build was average, she wasn't thin but wasn't chubby. It also looked like she had some kind of work done to her hair. Maybe highlights? Or tips? It wasn't quite the jet black Korean hair you expect even though she was Korean.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop..[/QUOTE]You should try YDP RLD and Miari and see how it goes? Those would be my first 2 stops.

[QUOTE=MrFuji;2816952]Hey KMax212,

Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.

I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I would be interested in going as a group somewhere as well.

What is opgani12?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2819627]You should try YDP RLD and Miari and see how it goes? Those would be my first 2 stops.[/QUOTE]I'm not in town anymore but I remember stopping by the YDP RLD and most of the korean girls straight up cold shoulder'd me because I'm not Korean. I didn't try very hard though maybe I'd have better luck if I was a bit more thorough.

MR: nearly every girl on there is an hour with 1 shot making the price more than back in the states. I was able to see Jisoo for 120 k for 15 minutes. Good session.

The Hill:

To those who don't know, the hill itself is pretty empty. The top of the hill is all trans. There is one spot up there, Evergreen, and it was only open on the weekend. Other than that, the rest are at the bottom of the hill and perpendicular to it. There were 4 or 5 places open at various times. Only one that seemed decent was Nymph with I think her name was Mimi, she had a nice body and was youngish at probably 30's. Rest were older from what I saw. Saw her for 80 k.

K:

I did try the kiss bang in Hongik. It cost 80 k for an hour and I could not get a half hour rate to get in. Once in, the girl came in and only offered a HJ after just a couple of minutes of kissing for 50 k. Overall, pretty lame, would not recommend at that price.

YDP:

Went by 2 nights (first time was just to check it out). This is where it is at. Went with one girl who seemed in her 20's and was very hot. As a white guy, most of the girls called me over so they seem willing to see foreigners to me at least. She offered 100 k off the bat and I didn't bother negotiating and just went with it.

Miari:

Was more curious than anything, but if I had a good deal I would have gone in. None were willing to do 2 shots for 100 k which is what I was looking for. Got invited to a few, but the way it is setup just seems really weird and off to me. Just didn't get a great vibe as it is in this dark long alley and the girls are just sitting there once the doors open. I'd much prefer YDP where the girls themselves are the ones calling you over rather than just being sold to you by a Mamason.

MVP-VIP:

Lastly, in Gangnam, went in to this place and they quoted me at 130 k for a half hour. Massage was ok, then the fun afterwards was good. Lady was probably late 30's at best.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop. I negotiated her to 160 k Won for 2 pops. Anyway, she refused to do BBFS or CIP even when I offered to throw in an extra 50 k it was just a hardline no for her. Fair enough. So we did do CFS and she also did BBBJ. She was very tight and definitely got my first load out very quickly. The only thing I'd complain about is that the room they put us in had a single bed which barely fit us even though she was short with a spinner type body. Like I would have rather us just go back to my hotel but I get that she had to work and couldn't leave that place.

All in all, both experiences were interesting. Definitely way cheaper than what I'd be able to get back in the US. Idk if I'd want to repeat with either girl simply because I think I could do better? This was my first time mongering in Seoul and I speak 0 Korean.[/QUOTE]Was the name of the Thai massage place King Thai what Pho?

[QUOTE=Cork2023;2819951]I would be interested in going as a group somewhere as well.

What is opgani12?[/QUOTE]I would be interested in joining a group to explore. I'll be in Seoul Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday all day.

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2820101]MR: nearly every girl on there is an hour with 1 shot making the price more than back in the states. I was able to see Jisoo for 120 k for 15 minutes. Good session.

The Hill:

To those who don't know, the hill itself is pretty empty. The top of the hill is all trans. There is one spot up there, Evergreen, and it was only open on the weekend. Other than that, the rest are at the bottom of the hill and perpendicular to it. There were 4 or 5 places open at various times. Only one that seemed decent was Nymph with I think her name was Mimi, she had a nice body and was youngish at probably 30's. Rest were older from what I saw. Saw her for 80 k.

K:

I did try the kiss bang in Hongik. It cost 80 k for an hour and I could not get a half hour rate to get in. Once in, the girl came in and only offered a HJ after just a couple of minutes of kissing for 50 k. Overall, pretty lame, would not recommend at that price.

YDP:

Went by 2 nights (first time was just to check it out). This is where it is at. Went with one girl who seemed in her 20's and was very hot. As a white guy, most of the girls called me over so they seem willing to see foreigners to me at least. She offered 100 k off the bat and I didn't bother negotiating and just went with it.

Miari:

Was more curious than anything, but if I had a good deal I would have gone in. None were willing to do 2 shots for 100 k which is what I was looking for. Got invited to a few, but the way it is setup just seems really weird and off to me. Just didn't get a great vibe as it is in this dark long alley and the girls are just sitting there once the doors open. I'd much prefer YDP where the girls themselves are the ones calling you over rather than just being sold to you by a Mamason.

MVP-VIP:

Lastly, in Gangnam, went in to this place and they quoted me at 130 k for a half hour. Massage was ok, then the fun afterwards was good. Lady was probably late 30's at best.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your writeup on your experiences. I still have yet to visit them myself. What did you get at The Hill - 80 k for one shot hh? Same at YDP for 100 k?

[QUOTE=Cork2023;2820264]Thanks for your writeup on your experiences. I still have yet to visit them myself. What did you get at The Hill - 80 k for one shot hh? Same at YDP for 100 k?[/QUOTE]At YDP each girl could be different but been told 100 k for 15 min, 300 k for an hour, 550 k for 2 hours and 700 k for 3 hours. The alley girls said 80 for 15,150 for 30 and around 250 for an hour. Don't recall hh, but with the window girls it's probably 200 or a small discount from that.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819294]The mama-san was short and stocky had her hair up in a bun and was wearing what appeared to be a nightgown? I forgot what the name of the place she was at was called, but if you start at the bottom of the hill / street and walk about 2/3 of the way up it'll be about there, on your left. The actual girl was wearing a super lowcut top, her tits like popping out kinda in your face. Her build was average, she wasn't thin but wasn't chubby. It also looked like she had some kind of work done to her hair. Maybe highlights? Or tips? It wasn't quite the jet black Korean hair you expect even though she was Korean.[/QUOTE]Was the bar modern looking or run down? And was she tall, short, pale, tan, some tats? There's nothing on the left side except a waxing place at the top.

I did find a blonde stocky mamasan and a woman she works with named Michelle. She had streaks in her hair. She was short or average,165 cm maybe 5'5, wearing a one piece dress and tatted on the back, I think. Said her room was up the hill around the corner. Was that her? Didn't go for it, because much older than expected.