Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2751829]The fact that my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean it is not based on reality. I speak from my own experience. I had sessioned in SF before, and never had a mind blowing experience. Mediocre at best, which is expected from a high mileage girl. Speaking of high mileage, last time I was there I actually saw a girl that maybe I would do, but she was always busy even to talk to me. We just got exchanged Hello,'s and off she went with another customer. She did 3 guys, back to back, while I was there drinking my beers. When she finally became available, I passed on her, I didn't want to be her 4th (at the very least) customer that night. These girls are sex machines, they do one guy after another, do your own math. Some of them fuck more times than most of the mongers here fuck in entire lifetime. No wonder the service is mechanical and all covered. Totally expected. You don't walk in a McDonald's asking for a NY steak, right? Sf is kind of a fast food, so to speak. Cheap, quick, efficient. I understand the appeal of it to a monger from the US. Someone in his 50's-70's, maybe divorced, retired, on a budget, with literally no sex life back home. Fucking a 18-20 yo for 20 bucks is impossible back home. But here it is cheap, legal, and nobody will ever find out, in case you care about privacy. I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. Im not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Damn son you sound mad af? Maybe we should exchange usernames LOL. You said you're not trying to trash Bogota yet you are. Also your fast food vs steak analogy isn't realistic, because you could be within your budget but you'll still pay more for the steak vs a cheeseburger. So there is literally zero point to mention this, yes I know my burger costs 1 dollar, maybe I don't want to spend 20 buck on steak so I can save 19 bucks. Just cause you could afford it doesn't mean we spent the same amt, yet your comment is trying to justify the 20 bucks and to make it sound as if we'll end at the same spot. No we won't cause I'll have more money left LOL, so pointless comment again.

Maybe you're young, I am too, and I can promise you many older gents have a whole lot more money than you and I combined, and yet they're the ones who roll on a budget. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I've mongered in 15+ countries, and the guys with money that I personally know are the ones who bargain the most, save more, invest more wisely in other words, and not just in pussy.

Another thing to finally get to the point, Bogota isn't cheaper than Medellin son, I repeat, Bogota is Not cheaper. SF street girls are comparable to street girls in El centro Mde, SF clubs are also comparable to clubs in El Centro Mde. In fact clubs on the North end of Bogota are by far more superior and more expensive than those few ones in Mde, in fact no comparison in quality and in quantity. Bogota is a HUGE city, and we're only talking about a few street blocks, there are 10 x more casas, 10 x+ more clubs, meaning 10 x more photoprepagos, all categories. So this entire analysis of high mileage pussy blah blah is pure BS and if anything you sound super inexperienced LOL. These putas also rotate from cities to cities, met two chicas in Medellin that used to work in Fiebre, they recognized me. Met in a centro club and that same night saw them again in Llerra. The entire country's the same shit when it comes to putas hombre, they just rotate.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2751911]You are tiring to bargain with your luck. You should look for an insurance for pussy services. You try to make conclusions looking on the map. LOL.[/QUOTE]Obviously having an accurate and up to date map would be helpful. I want to have options and don't want to waste my time exploring dead ends while looking for those options. Look how much more active the Medellin page is than this one despite the city having a way smaller population. It's not just the weather. People only want to talk about sf here and half of that is negative. I'm not even saying that Medellin is a better city for this hobby because I know it's not, it's just more streamlined. People talk about the mezzanine like it's the only casa. There are definitely dozens of other places like that. Bogota has potential but not if we're going to act like leaving sf is a laughable concept. I don't even know what else to say to that.

[QUOTE=TalkYes;2751578]So if you didn't session but you're commenting on the low quality of service, I'm guessing you've sessioned in previous a trip (s)? If so, are you saying the quality has gone down? I'm coming for a month and I'm wondering if I should spend half that time in Medellin. From what I've seen on youtube, sf is not what it used to be. That could also be youtube being more vigilent in removing videos. But on the Bogota map, 9 out of 10 listings are places that went out of business years ago and most links don't go anywhere. The Medellin map seems a lot more reliable and some of the reports on that page make it sounds pretty great, although I know it's more expensive. Medellin doesn't have an official zona de tolerencia but el centro looks promising during the day and parque lleras at night, and that's just the street scene. Clubs and casas look promising too. SA looks good for both cities but I know if I rely too heavily on that I'm going to have a lot of frustrating experiences with flaky girls with inflated egos. I also hate fancy restaurants almost as much as girls love them. Last time I offered to pay a girl more to skip the restaurant and she blocked me LOL.[/QUOTE]Medellin does have a zona de tolerencia, just for your information. I don't know the exact boundaries but the centro area behind the museum, carrera 53 is part of it.

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2752264]2 things bothered me when reading this.

1. It would add value. Even if you don't share your contacts (which is in itself kind of selfish if you ask me). Hearing about you experiences would help younger mongers like myself understand if this is an avenue I would like to try. It would give me a blue print on how to get good GFE in Colombia. The details of the encounter can help me learn what a good deal is vs a scam. The details can help me figure out if the benefits of this path is worth the extra. To a guy like me both options sound awesome. Going up to a 7-8 on the street and sticking something in her for like 10 usd in under 30 minutes of meeting. Like I tip people that here for bringing me drinks at a restaurant. Option be take home a 9 or 10 by your personal standards and get a GFE so good it make you not want to share your prostitutes info. This option is like 65 usd or 300 k cop. I can't even get a decent covered BJ for that in the US. Either way sounds exciting and fun. I'm not sure if not posting report is a a lazy cop out or you really think they don't add value. I'm here to tell you sir I'm here wanting to know as many details as you will allow. Everything from how you select them to how you get them to meet up. Everything from your most successful strategies to you big mistakes. I could learn from all of it. So when I make my way there next month I will be able to tell more stories here about how I did things right vs telling a bunch of stories about how I wasted my times with the wrong chicas.

2. My man JjBee62 has already helped me out like 5 times this past week. 3 Directly and a few more from me running across his reports. If you asking for his reports you must not be looking very hard. It seems in Colombia there only like 3 or 4 people more active than him recently. He the OG in my opinion. Some of them weren't trip reports but there was defintely information he shared he most likely got mongering in Colombia. It's either that or he is living vicariously through the board reading this front to back like a book.

Last but not least MaddTraveler did a less than good job articulating his point countering you. I'm not taking sides in the GFE vs SF debate but I love a good debate. It turned from an argument to a loosely related rant on his part. So thanks for keeping your argument concise enough so I can enjoy your debate with the others.[/QUOTE]Now that was excellent, especially your first point. It's much better to learn from someone else's mistakes (or successes) than to have make your own mistakes.

I'm a truck driver. Nothing special, but it pays me very well and it's something I enjoy. Many years ago another driver passed on some wisdom. Trucks don't roll over because they run off the road or into the median. They roll over when the driver tries to jerk the truck back on the road. Years later someone ran me off into the median (because the other option would have killed them and probably me). Immediately, I remembered to just steer down the middle and stop. No damage, no injuries.

Your second point, I'm glad if I helped you. That's why I'm still here. I learned both ways. Not only did I read everything, I also lived in Medellin for a year. However, there are guys here who make me look like a newbie. Some of the guys look like Fred Astaire (look it up youngster) dancing through Santa Fe. They're all the specialists, I'm more of a generalist.

I go through spurts (which is how I came in my younger days). I just came off of a period when I posted little and now I'm making up for it and annoying everyone in the process.

Good luck on your upcoming trip.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2752287]Agreed. Santa Fe is it for everyone but I always like to compare it to Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Never visited Tijuana, but remaining in Colombia I would compare it to Botero plaza in Medellin.

Often I prefer a GFE (MiamiBoy I'm with you), but it requires more work to find it, not just more money, and sometime I'm a bit lazy or unprepared.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2752223]Could you please share your opinion. I don't use SA and etc. But I wonder how much time does it take to get a girl from SA. Bogota? + I wonder, how many times a girl does not match your expectations? For example; fake or outdated pics or bad service. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I had 3 dates on SA when I went. First 2 looked hotter in their photos but were still hot. First girl had a slightly less pretty face than her photos. I had better chemistry with her because she spoke english. I think I paid only 300,000 for all night but I took her to a nice dinner and she got some fancy drinks, the bill was higher than I expected because of them but I don't remember exactly. When we were talking online she had mentioned I need to wear a condom but she seemed to forget about that after a couple drinks. Lots of passionate kissing and she was really loud.

The second girl I think was like 300,000 or maybe 400,000 and she left shorty after the deed. She made me wear a condom, I can't remember the details about if there was a BJ and if that was covered. It was during the day so dinner didn't include drinks and it wasn't really a nice place, so it was cheap. She was super gorgeous but in the photos she was a 10 and she had put on a little bit of weight since then. She did have maybe the nicest natural tits I'd ever seen and again there was lots of kissing.

The third girl was just as hot as her photos, maybe hotter. We had agreed on 300,000 but it never went down. I don't think it was because she didn't like me though, I think it was just poor communication and bad time management. Or maybe because I admitted to having met other girls on SA. Don't do that. Anyway I didn't pay her, I just bought her a cheap lunch and we kissed a bunch and made plans to meet again but our schedules didn't line up.

As for time, I had messaged them before my trip. It would probably be difficult to get a date the same day you meet them on SA, but not impossible. The thing I like about SA is I'm not as reluctant to do risky stuff with them because they are low mileage, and they are more likely to offer it to you, maybe because they don't see themselves as working girls, so they don't see you as a John. It's been said on here a million times, but the girls are very flaky. Don't let it get to you. But also be confident. When you plan the meetup, have an exact place and time, leave nothing open. And be confident. Message her a couple hours before but don't even mention the date, just ask how she's doing or something. If you start the conversation by asking if the date is still on, I feel like she's more likely to flake. I don't pretent to understand these women I'm just offering my experience.

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2752264]2 things bothered me when reading this.

1. It would add value. Even if you don't share your contacts (which is in itself kind of selfish if you ask me). Hearing about you experiences would help younger mongers like myself understand if this is an avenue I would like to try. It would give me a blue print on how to get good GFE in Colombia. The details of the encounter can help me learn what a good deal is vs a scam. The details can help me figure out if the benefits of this path is worth the extra. To a guy like me both options sound awesome. Going up to a 7-8 on the street and sticking something in her for like 10 usd in under 30 minutes of meeting. Like I tip people that here for bringing me drinks at a restaurant. Option be take home a 9 or 10 by your personal standards and get a GFE so good it make you not want to share your prostitutes info. This option is like 65 usd or 300 k cop. I can't even get a decent covered BJ for that in the US. Either way sounds exciting and fun. I'm not sure if not posting report is a a lazy cop out or you really think they don't add value. I'm here to tell you sir I'm here wanting to know as many details as you will allow. Everything from how you select them to how you get them to meet up. Everything from your most successful strategies to you big mistakes. I could learn from all of it. So when I make my way there next month I will be able to tell more stories here about how I did things right vs telling a bunch of stories about how I wasted my times with the wrong chicas.

2. My man JjBee62 has already helped me out like 5 times this past week. 3 Directly and a few more from me running across his reports. If you asking for his reports you must not be looking very hard. It seems in Colombia there only like 3 or 4 people more active than him recently. He the OG in my opinion. Some of them weren't trip reports but there was defintely information he shared he most likely got mongering in Colombia. It's either that or he is living vicariously through the board reading this front to back like a book.

Last but not least MaddTraveler did a less than good job articulating his point countering you. I'm not taking sides in the GFE vs SF debate but I love a good debate. It turned from an argument to a loosely related rant on his part. So thanks for keeping your argument concise enough so I can enjoy your debate with the others.[/QUOTE]You need to start your mongering by planning first:

1) what time do you want or can afford to spend in Colombia.

2) How many girls yo want to see a day / week. And how much time you want to spend looking for a girl. Even on photoprepagos it takes hours of scrolling and chatting. Than a girl could come few hours later than expected or don't come at all. Or pics are fake or outdated, or bad attitude, etc.

3) decide what you need, a fuck or being daddy, or a date, or girl companion.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2752462]You need to start your mongering by planning first:

1) what time do you want or can afford to spend in Colombia.

2) How many girls yo want to see a day / week. And how much time you want to spend looking for a girl. Even on photoprepagos it takes hours of scrolling and chatting. Than a girl could come few hours later than expected or don't come at all. Or pics are fake or outdated, or bad attitude, etc.

3) decide what you need, a fuck or being daddy, or a date, or girl companion.[/QUOTE]This is a good start. For a first international mongering trip I would make some changes.

1. Agreed, need to figure out what you can afford. My suggestion is to budget $200 per day plus airfare. Subsequent trips you won't need nearly as much, but it's better to have plenty so you aren't missing out on your last few days.

2. Change that to how many girls can you reasonably fuck per day over the length of your stay? It's the candy store principle. Give a kid a bunch of money and let him loose in a candy store and he'll buy more than he could possibly eat.

3. Another slight change. Decide how to adapt your home mongering method to Colombia. If you are comfortable with in-call escorts, there are casas or online ads on mileroticos and other sites. For Outcall, same online ads, escort services and Tinder are options. Massage Parlors and Strip Clubs Are the same, as well as street girls. Whatever is closest to your preferred method should be where you start. From there you can try other things and decide what works best for you.

Some guys I know in Medellin go to a casa, or get a street girl in the morning or afternoon, then go to a strip club, or call a girl over at night. That way they get a quick and easy one out of the way and can finish with something different at night.

4. Consider what else you want to do. There are several tourist attractions in and around Bogota and Medellin. If you find yourself with extra time, it's good to have a plan. One thing I did on my first visit was ride the Transmilenio. Midday when it wasn't very busy, I rode the entire system, switching buses and getting a pretty quick tour of the entire city, all for pocket change.

5. Figure out how you're going to feed yourself. If necessary you can do just American franchises. McDonald's, Burger King, Subway, Domino's, Papa John's and KFC are all in Colombia. There also Colombian equivalents. I like Qbano for sandwiches, Frisby for chicken and El Corral for burgers. Italian restaurants are also pretty common. For coffee try Juan Valdez. Crepes and Waffles is something I recommend.

I suggest all those food options because many guys don't like Colombian food. Usually, except for 1 visit to Crepes and Waffles, I stick with Colombian food. Many restaurants serve a menu of the day. It's your choice of meat, potatoes and or rice, possibly yuca, a small salad, fried plantain and a drink. Costs around 15 k.

There's more, but I'm out of time for now.

For sure. Its definitely harder to find GFE in SF. But I have gotten lucky. Some fresh Vennie striaght of the bus from Maicao or a colombiana from Neiva looking to pay for her estudios. You win some you loose some. Its cyclical for sure.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2752330]Never visited Tijuana, but remaining in Colombia I would compare it to Botero plaza in Medellin.

Often I prefer a GFE (MiamiBoy I'm with you), but it requires more work to find it, not just more money, and sometime I'm a bit lazy or unprepared.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2752330]Never visited Tijuana, but remaining in Colombia I would compare it to Botero plaza in Medellin.

Often I prefer a GFE (MiamiBoy I'm with you), but it requires more work to find it, not just more money, and sometime I'm a bit lazy or unprepared.[/QUOTE]I used to Live in Chula Vista Back in the 90's when Tijuana was a lot different-- before the Hong Kong club was all the way through the block and Adelitas was the best club.

You could session for $30-$40 and the street girls back then were like a basic 3-4 for $5.

I always liked women in Colombia way better-- Mucho Mas Suave.

Mexico is so much more predatory then Colombia. And you want to talk about used up women-- They get boned by the whole USA every weekend and charge way more.

I was there like 2010 and it was ok-- Not sure how it is now-- But Santa Fe has always been way better.

I know I do tours and have an interest in promoting SF. Don't take my word for it--the Vast Majority of guys I have toured SF with have had great experiences as written here in recent reports.

I started flying out of Tijuana to Havana, that was fun. I would do that rather than go to Tijuana.

Good luck to all with your GFE dreams!!

Hi guys,

I would like to know if you prefer hotels or Airbnb's in Bogota? I heard about hotels, that are not guest friendly. So we are speaking about huge problems. Otherwise I can imagine, that Hotels are much safer, especially when they check the ID-card etc. I don't want to wake up without passport, credit card. So I guess, I would only take an Airbnb with a safe. Do you have any recommendations for hotels that are near La Candelaria oder Chapinero? Thanks a lot, Alex.

[QUOTE=TooRop88;2752996]Hi guys,

I would like to know if you prefer hotels or Airbnb's in Bogota? I heard about hotels, that are not guest friendly. So we are speaking about huge problems. Otherwise I can imagine, that Hotels are much safer, especially when they check the ID-card etc. I don't want to wake up without passport, credit card. So I guess, I would only take an Airbnb with a safe. Do you have any recommendations for hotels that are near La Candelaria oder Chapinero? Thanks a lot, Alex.[/QUOTE]I know many guys who have stayed in Airbnb no safe without problem-- The Ibis Museo is a favorite if you want to be near Santa Fe, the other is San Francisco -- Many Airbnb in this area too-.

Many cheaper hotels in the area too.

Hotel Grace in Chapinero-- But check about guests.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/living-zona-g.en-gb.html?aid=390156&label=duc511jc-1DCAsoMkINbGl2aW5nLXpvbmEtZ0gzWANoMogBAZgBCbgBF8gBD9gBA-gBAYgCAagCA7gCg5eimgbAAgHSAiRhMzEzNDBhNS03MDgwLTQwNjktOThhMS1iYjdkYzM1OGZiZDHYAgTgAgE&sid=6087b7e474c7d60d5406c94af8bfb4f6&dist=0&keep_landing=1&sb_price_type=total&type=total&[/URL]

And [URL]https://jalo.com.co/en/72hub-apartments/[/URL].

Good luck.

[QUOTE=TooRop88;2752996]Hi guys,

I would like to know if you prefer hotels or Airbnb's in Bogota? I heard about hotels, that are not guest friendly. So we are speaking about huge problems. Otherwise I can imagine, that Hotels are much safer, especially when they check the ID-card etc. I don't want to wake up without passport, credit card. So I guess, I would only take an Airbnb with a safe. Do you have any recommendations for hotels that are near La Candelaria oder Chapinero? Thanks a lot, Alex.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed several times here. Here is my take, most of the airbnb are condos in a building, especially better buildings, and they all have security and doorman in the lobby. In most cases, you will have to register your guest in the front desk. So if you are thinking of avoiding the walk of shame through the lobby, not much compare with hotel. The other thing to consider is the weather. Most of the airbnb doesn't have heating unless the owner provide portable heating unit. It can be freezing at night in Bogota. Hotel rooms in that sense are warmer at night with heating or nor. Hotels in Bogota are very inexpensive, I don't book airbnb anymore when I go there.

[QUOTE=TooRop88;2752996]Hi guys,

I would like to know if you prefer hotels or Airbnb's in Bogota? I heard about hotels, that are not guest friendly. So we are speaking about huge problems. Otherwise I can imagine, that Hotels are much safer, especially when they check the ID-card etc. I don't want to wake up without passport, credit card. So I guess, I would only take an Airbnb with a safe. Do you have any recommendations for hotels that are near La Candelaria oder Chapinero? Thanks a lot, Alex.[/QUOTE]There is so much info if you search on the fourm. Like a lot of info. There is also a hotels fourm for Bogota.

However, I've had good luck with Airbnb's and I just message the host to see if guests are a problem. With girls I have just met I meet for a drink at a BBC and then walk to a love motel. Then if / when there is trust, I'll bring her to airbnb.

You can and should also message the hotel for their policy.

Hello,

Could anyone say something fresh on Bogota and Medelline Real Estate? Price, area to buy, Bogota via Medelline, agents, etc?

Thanks.