Angeles City

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1403785]I am in AC now, staying 3 nights on purpose on a transit. After all these years. 15 plus years and 10 trips or so, still very hard for me to get addicted to this place. There is a slight tansportation improvement. Outside Clark

Airport, there is a air-con jeepney that go to SM mall. 30 pesos, from there you can walk to Fields hotels. Reccomend for people without luggages.

A lot of talk about barebacking. Well, that's why these Philippines addicts see here as motherland. But from my experiences, these handful of younger, cuter, flat stomach, ones are very stuck up, maybe worse than their Thai sisters,

You can hardly get even a CBJ from them now, this category is more rarer in Philippines, so they behave worse and worse each trip I come.

But besides this rare star category, all other workers probably will have no problem let you shoot bare back 3 min after she meets you, some people call it girlfriendly, well, some people may call it ignorance. You can call it.

Whatever you like.

For people who frequent CP, this would be a very tough place to satisfy you. Players from CP are so used to extreme quality, and suddenly you land in AC, you will have a pretty tough time adjust to Pinoy standard, as I said before, people.

Love here for the the hidden secret, the girls are not pretty, even spotlight girls can hardly match the CP bbs cheapies, but these Pinoy addicts love their motherland for the "fun" factor.

3 nights, went through so many bars, I probably spent more money on drinks than pay bar. I have to be honest, I personally could not find one with nice passable face and a sexy slim body, always had to compromise and compromise when time getting late.

I bar fined 2 in 3 nights, one from Golden Nile, at 2600 pay bar, and one spotlight Doll House at 3000, both turned out to be very boring as expected, BBBJ, one out of 2, I also tested the resistability to no condom, both scored high, they totally resisted, so again the younger nicer category do resist in my experiences. (well, up to 6-7 yeras ago, very few resisted in Philippines, even cuter ones).

I still not a guy that can only focus on the so called total girlfriendliness that you can poke sashimi and CIM any time, maybe when I get to 70, I may change my liking and start to enjoy AC more, as for now, I still enjoy cute face, gorgeous

Body and skin tone of young women for my hobby, so AC will still be a very occasional hunting ground for a long while.[/QUOTE]What is CP? I don't see it in the abbreviations list.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1403965]you're probably right about Cuba Cuba it's a YMMV kind of place. But I think many many mongers are going to end up like me walking away VERY VERY DISAPOINTED in Cuba Cuba, admittedly I'm 50ish over weight and unattractive and this may have had something to do with it.

I would prefer the place either not have guest relation officers and just promote themselves as restaurant / bar / casino somewhat like Kokomos or Phillies or have the guest relation officers be more accessible to the average monger and not so prudish.

If you have looks, game and youth then Cuba Cuba is probably the place for you (but if you have all of this there's no need to travel to the other side of the planet your probably doing pretty good at home). But if you are like me, the average monger you can probably write Cuba Cuba off, that is until the GRO end there prudishness and make themselves more accessible to the average monger like us. Until that happens the average monger is better off at other establishments.

Chris[/QUOTE]No problem Chris, I know how easy it is to get distracted with other "things" in AC; perhaps we'll catch up with each other at some other time.

My initial plan, upon learning that there were GRO's at Cuba Cuba and that they're available for takeout, had been to only prepare a FR for the board. I was working on that and had it on the back burner when your FR appeared.

And I guess I should point out that I was not really looking for company from there, so my perspective may have been different from yours. While I was in AC I already had at least 2 and up to 4 girls staying with me on any given day so I had more of an "I don't give a shit attitude" when it came to looking for girls. For me CC was just good place to eat and a convenient place to hang out; plus I wanted to gather intel for my report. If something good came along (like that one girl) I would take it, otherwise I was content with JJ's gf's and letting her pick out girls from the few "regular" bars that we did in fact go to. Perhaps if I was alone my experience there would have been different. However, I will stand by my observations about not seeing any aggressive behavior by the GRO's.

There's also something else to consider, the girls must be going with mongers otherwise they would not make any money. They would soon disappear from there and go back to the bars or tin shacks where they came from. All I can say is that in the late afternoons I would see 15 to 25 girls there and usually by 11pm their numbers had significantly dwindled. Where they went is anyone's guess, perhaps they simply moved to other venues such as Sky Trax or High Society.

As to your comments about a mongers age and appearance being a factor, perhaps you're right when it comes to these girls and possibly even more of the girls in AC, if you believe some of the recent FR's, are in general becoming pickier. However, I did see a few leave from CC with average looking older guys and when the slow season arrives I'm sure they'll be less selective. As a side note, on this trip I did notice quite a few younger guys in AC (as well as in Makati, Subic and especially in Cebu, but they seemed more of the "backpacker" crowd in Cebu) , but I think we older guys still out numbered them.

Only time will tell if the practice of having GRO's at CC will continue and more importantly be successful (both for them and the girls). Personally I think it will continue; after all, the bar really has nothing to lose. I'm sure some guys come in and have a drink or a meal in order to just scope out the girls. I also suspect that if CC didn't have their gambling revenue then they would most likely be taking a cut of the girls' revenue (other than LD's) and probably set up some kind of a structured EWR arrangement. Perhaps one day they will. I reckon we'll just have wait and see how it plays out, but I do hope it does not set a trend for bars to have fully "independent contractors" working at their establishments.

One thing I think mongers should remember about CC and I think you'll agree with me Chris. CC is a fully fledged FL bar and a monger would have no recourse if something went awry. Although I doubt something would happen, and I would feel more secure with a FL from here then I would from the street, caution should still be exercised if one of the prudes (LOL) decides to go with you. In addition, these girls are not required to get health checks; not that the checks are worth anything anyhow, I'm just saying.

Chris, you make a lot of valid points about CC and I would agree that the average monger, regardless of age or appearance and especially newbies, would be better off sticking to the regular bars if they are solely looking for girls. With two or three exceptions most of the GRO's there were average to sub-average in appearance. On the other hand, if a monger is looking for a place to get a good meal, perhaps shoot some pool, play poker or just hang out and have a beer as they watch the street action I think CC is a viable option.

Suffice it to say that this is a good example of how two mongers can visit a place during the same time frame and have a vastly different experience. We are in the same age bracket and I carry an extra few pounds. But in one aspect we are different, where you say you're not attractive I'm very gwapo; at least that's what girls there have told me and we all know Filipina's never tell a lie, LOL.

So Chris, I suppose when it comes to certain aspects pertaining to Cuba Cuba we'll have to agree to disagree (insert big grin).

The food is okay but overpriced compared to what you can get at many other venues a short walk away. It's a Sports Bar playing live games from all over the world. I was there watching the final game of the Baseball World Series at 6 in the morning back in October and also the American Football playoffs in January.

It's the best place in town to play cards which starts at 3pm. It's a great start to the evening before you go out and hit the bars. The GRO's at CC have only been around for a few months. Most of them look like shit so I've never even chatted with one. A couple months ago, one drunk patron grabbed one of the GRO's ass. The GRO had the slob arrested and taken to jail. He had to cough up a couple thousand dollars which the GRO got her cut so be careful. The waitresses are a lot hotter than the GRO's and I have been able to coax one to my room after her work ended and we still meet up when I'm in town. Speaking of GRO's, I saw a sign at Wild Orchid now advertising for GRO's. Hopefully they will be a lot hotter than CC.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1403834]To a point you are correct, many of the girls stereotype foreigners and many will not go with Indians, Blacks, Koreans, etc. For various reasons. But keep in mind that there's thousands of girls working in AC. You may have to work a little harder, but I'm sure you'll find girls there who will satisfy your needs.[/QUOTE]I would also recommend buying a drink for the mamasan and asking her what girls are fine with your ethnicity.

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1404369]I would also recommend buying a drink for the mamasan and asking her what girls are fine with your ethnicity.[/QUOTE]I would recommend this no matter what.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1404290]No problem Chris, I know how easy it is to get distracted with other "things" in AC; perhaps we'll catch up with each other at some other time.

My initial plan, upon learning that there were GRO's at Cuba Cuba and that they're available for takeout, had been to only prepare a FR for the board. I was working on that and had it on the back burner when your FR appeared.

And I guess I should point out that I was not really looking for company from there, so my perspective may have been different from yours. While I was in AC I already had at least 2 and up to 4 girls staying with me on any given day so I had more of an "I don't give a shit attitude" when it came to looking for girls. For me CC was just good place to eat and a convenient place to hang out; plus I wanted to gather intel for my report. If something good came along (like that one girl) I would take it, otherwise I was content with JJ's gf's and letting her pick out girls from the few "regular" bars that we did in fact go to. Perhaps if I was alone my experience there would have been different. However, I will stand by my observations about not seeing any aggressive behavior by the GRO's.

There's also something else to consider, the girls must be going with mongers otherwise they would not make any money. They would soon disappear from there and go back to the bars or tin shacks where they came from. All I can say is that in the late afternoons I would see 15 to 25 girls there and usually by 11pm their numbers had significantly dwindled. Where they went is anyone's guess, perhaps they simply moved to other venues such as Sky Trax or High Society.

As to your comments about a mongers age and appearance being a factor, perhaps you're right when it comes to these girls and possibly even more of the girls in AC, if you believe some of the recent FR's, are in general becoming pickier. However, I did see a few leave from CC with average looking older guys and when the slow season arrives I'm sure they'll be less selective. As a side note, on this trip I did notice quite a few younger guys in AC (as well as in Makati, Subic and especially in Cebu, but they seemed more of the "backpacker" crowd in Cebu) , but I think we older guys still out numbered them.

Only time will tell if the practice of having GRO's at CC will continue and more importantly be successful (both for them and the girls). Personally I think it will continue; after all, the bar really has nothing to lose. I'm sure some guys come in and have a drink or a meal in order to just scope out the girls. I also suspect that if CC didn't have their gambling revenue then they would most likely be taking a cut of the girls' revenue (other than LD's) and probably set up some kind of a structured EWR arrangement. Perhaps one day they will. I reckon we'll just have wait and see how it plays out, but I do hope it does not set a trend for bars to have fully "independent contractors" working at their establishments.

One thing I think mongers should remember about CC and I think you'll agree with me Chris. CC is a fully fledged FL bar and a monger would have no recourse if something went awry. Although I doubt something would happen, and I would feel more secure with a FL from here then I would from the street, caution should still be exercised if one of the prudes (LOL) decides to go with you. In addition, these girls are not required to get health checks; not that the checks are worth anything anyhow, I'm just saying.

Chris, you make a lot of valid points about CC and I would agree that the average monger, regardless of age or appearance and especially newbies, would be better off sticking to the regular bars if they are solely looking for girls. With two or three exceptions most of the GRO's there were average to sub-average in appearance. On the other hand, if a monger is looking for a place to get a good meal, perhaps shoot some pool, play poker or just hang out and have a beer as they watch the street action I think CC is a viable option.

Suffice it to say that this is a good example of how two mongers can visit a place during the same time frame and have a vastly different experience. We are in the same age bracket and I carry an extra few pounds. But in one aspect we are different, where you say you're not attractive I'm very gwapo; at least that's what girls there have told me and we all know Filipina's never tell a lie, LOL.

So Chris, I suppose when it comes to certain aspects pertaining to Cuba Cuba we'll have to agree to disagree (insert big grin).[/QUOTE]Hey Pip Jaeger, yes we will definitely have to catch up with each other one of these days. Don't know if you ever come to the Caribbean but I will be in the DR in couple weeks and Thailand for the month of June South America for the remainder of the summer.

I think you really hit the nail on the head when it comes to CC, like you said the average monger and especially newbies would be better off avoiding CC and sticking to regular bars when looking for girls.

I don't think management fully thought through the guest relations officer thing and how it could back fire on them. For every hansom Pip Jaeger monger who does good at CC there's probably ten or more average to below average mongers like myself who are going to get shot down hurt embarrassed leave the place and never come back and tell their friends to avoid the place. Having GRO creates an expectation that they can be had, having snobby GRO who shoot mongers down is bad for business and loses customers and gives the place a bad reputation. It would be better to not have GROs if they are going to be so snobby or require them to be available to the average and below average monger.

(Remember Ugly Guys Have Money Too)

Chris

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver; 1404307]The food is okay but overpriced compared to what you can get at many other venues a short walk away. It's a Sports Bar playing live games from all over the world. I was there watching the final game of the Baseball World Series at 6 in the morning back in October and also the American Football playoffs in January.

It's the best place in town to play cards which starts at 3pm. It's a great start to the evening before you go out and hit the bars. The GRO's at CC have only been around for a few months. Most of them look like shit so I've never even chatted with one. A couple months ago, one drunk patron grabbed one of the GRO's ass. The GRO had the slob arrested and taken to jail. He had to cough up a couple thousand dollars which the GRO got her cut so be careful. The waitresses are a lot hotter than the GRO's and I have been able to coax one to my room after her work ended and we still meet up when I'm in town. Speaking of GRO's, I saw a sign at Wild Orchid now advertising for GRO's. Hopefully they will be a lot hotter than CC.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the cheap local drinks the food is a little salty but it was edible.

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1403991]He was lucky to get the product delivered to him via the Flip Post Office. Your chances of getting anything without it being stolen are about 50 percent in this country. It was probably opened but once they saw it was condoms they determined it had no real value except to wait for the recipient to show up and mock him for wearing raincoats.[/QUOTE]True! Condoms are one of the few things that will not be stolen if sent through the PI postal service. You'the have a hard time giving away condoms in that country. I know one Filipina who has 9 kids. The husband has never used a condom in his life and is always too drunk to withdraw when he roots her after giving her a good thrashing. Her family has begged her to get fixed at their expense or use pills. She refuses to do so and continues to breed. As soon as the kids are old enough to walk they invade the nearby houses of the more well off relatives to lie in front of the TV and wait until the rice is cooked. Parasitizing the hardworking members of the extended family allows the girls to accept deep delivery of random pinoy and poriner cream pies without the least concern about impregnation.

Its funny how the two inbred brothers here bragg about barebacking filipinas with 9 kids and are ok impregnating them. They carefully say its a friend but we all know what they mean.

[QUOTE=Blueseoul;1404267]What is CP? I don't see it in the abbreviations list.[/QUOTE]It is a great place to visit if you enjoy Chinese gals. Young, pretty, and plentiful. It is not as cheap as in the past and the GFE factor is almost zero. As a rule.

That being said, it is no other place on the planet.

I would add that one of the other attractive things about AC over CP is that almost all the AC gals speak passable English, almost none do in CP.

I just finished spending my first weekend in AC, I was a little worried going there reading some of the reports on here before hand, however it wasn't nearly as much of a hole as I was expecting from reading on here. The beggars and street vendors were much less aggressive than I remember in Puckett or Bangkok sure they were there but none of the beggars ever bothered me after I said no, and most of the street vendors could be discouraged with a shake of your head, A few you had to tell no several times but not many.

I never felt any sort of physical danger at all, sure its a developing country and things might not be as neat and clean as what your used to and if its your not use to visiting places like that it may seem scary but I would feel much safer walking down the street there at night than most any major city in The USA personally, not that I was there long enough to really "KNOW" but just an impression I really didn't ever feel in the least bit worried unlike in Brazil or Pretoria.

I visited most of the bars along the walking street at some time during the weekend except a couple of the largest that were just to darn crowded for me to want to deal with. Taste obviously varies but I found the quality to be pretty good typically I find when I go visiting beer bars in Thailand or Hostess clubs In China I have to bounce around several having a beer or two in each and somehow it's not till after the seventh or eight bar (even though it might be the same bar as I stopped in first, with the same girls on shift) do I find something I would think about taking home. Almost every bar I walked into in AC I could see at least one or two girls I would take home even though I was still dead sober.

I was quoted 1800 or 2K as EWR (actually it seems EWR is no longer an acceptable term and its called "party animal") every place I went except a couple places mentioned their "spotlight" dancers were 3k.

I thought Carousel had the best over all quality from what I saw, they seemed to have two levels of girls one level was on white and black spotted outfits and would be on the rotating stage, the other level was in either all black or orange outfits and would dance on the raised area on the outside of the stage that did not rotate, almost all of the "special" girls seemed doable to me and the EWR was the same for them as the regular girls.

As far as specific girls I took Jane out of Voodoo both Friday and Saturday night she was a cute young girl about 40 kilos 18 with no children and a tight body, she was very nice and very willing, her oral skills were lacking but I haven't had the luck to come across a girl in Asia yet that that wasn't the case with. Obviously since I took her two nights I enjoyed her company and would recommend her.

Saturday night I also took a second girl from Voodoo, I do not remember her name she was very very small 30 kilos, had braces and kind of curly hair, she was an adorable, but an absolute waste, did not even want me to see her naked, would not use her mouth (even though I had specifically asked about cumming in her mouth, I have a weird thing for braces) and did not want to have sex with me, even though she was not a cherry girl and I had made my intentions clear, Jane finally convinced her that she wasn't just there to sleep and needed to have sex that's what she was paid for after all, it lasted all of about two minutes before she told me to stop she couldn't do anymore, rolled back over to opposite side of bed covered up and would not participate at all, I told her to just leave, maybe I should have at least made her stay so she couldn't go back to the bar and find some other sucker but she was just pissing me off and ruining the fun I was going to have with Jane, obviously I strongly recommend against wasting your money on this one.

On Sunday I took a girl from Carousel I do not remember her name but her number was 500. When I got her back to room and undressed I was slightly disappointed, because while she had a very flat stomach and no obvious signs of child birth while in her bikini once she took off her top it was very obvious she had had a kid and her breast had paid a huge price for it, she was a very attractive girl but such small breast still somehow managing to be very saggy is somewhat disappointing to me, not that it ruined the night or anything but just not quite what I had expected. She was very much so a GFE type girl with tons of deep kissing always touching and being playful, so much so that it started to annoy me at times personally, but I'm sure for lots of guys it would be absolutely perfect. She was a good lay, and even reasonable at giving head when she did it, however she was did not want to do much of it.

Overall I enjoyed it much more than my visits to Thailand, while there were more girls packing a few extra pounds in AC than remember in Thailand there were also more that I found very cute in beer gardens, and probably a similar ratio of what I would call very high quality ones to the bigger gogosin Thailand, but I avoid the gogos in Thailand now as every girl I ever took from one was a horrible performer and / or runner I'd rather deal with a slightly less attractive beer garden girl that preforms. I got the distinct impression anyway the one absolute dud I got in AC was very much so an exception not the rule.

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My plan was to create a some sort of bar hopping report after long time starting from bars before Perimeter and going towards Fields. I failed miserably. My legs skewed me to the Insomnia. It was full of dancing ladies on middle on cat walk and both sides. I went left side and group of girls had to give me space to sit. The cat walk and interior was professional in extend creating feeling of coldness. Nice feature was girls landing on cat walk from firestation poles. On negative side girls on cat walk avoided eye contact and did mechanical minimalism style of dancing. Other aspect of my plan was to stick in SML to avoid getting drunk too soon. I drank one and left (115 PHP with tip)

I passed couple of bars and went in the Brown Sugar. I was the only customer when entering around 9pm. The cat walk was smaller than in previous bar but full of much more active dancers having fun on their civil clothes or at least they did not have any bar uniform. I ordered the second SML and after couple zips I started realize my plan about SMLs was going to be doomed. After a while a group of three blue collar Koreans walked in bar. That is in opposite to business men. They ordered a shared bottle of water. The waitress came to them and asked if they would like to have the bill separated in three. I was attempted to smile. After couple of minutes some kind of tour leader came with two more Koreans. Then they left.

While all this happened a GRO had been sending me coy smiles. After a while she sat beside me and told a story of being a single mom having a baby boy attented by her friend. Only had worked in bar one month. She was complaining no-one wanting to EWR her because she had to go to home to her baby not allowing full time. All my brain cells told me to run but she had in some mystical way wokened my junior. My junior told my brain cells "Hey, you anyway have to wake up early to catch Southern Cross shuttle bus to Subic so short time is not that bad of a problem". She was not trying to be a runner but she was right about the one month part. Let's say I did not get my money worth.

[QUOTE=White Whale;1405586]Other aspect of my plan was to stick in SML to avoid getting drunk too soon. I drank one and left[/QUOTE]SML doesn't prevent you from getting drunk. SML has the same 5% as SMB does. Just Red Horse and Colt has more.

[QUOTE=White Whale;1405586]After a while a group of three blue collar Koreans walked in bar. That is in opposite to business men. They ordered a shared bottle of water. The waitress came to them and asked if they would like to have the bill separated in three. I was attempted to smile.[/QUOTE]I hope she was kind enough to offer them 3 straws.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1405588]SML doesn't prevent you from getting drunk. SML has the same 5% as SMB does. Just Red Horse and Colt has more.[/QUOTE]My usual prerefed beverage is GT. Compared to that it keeps me more solver. I drink SML to to keep my figure ;)