Jakarta

[QUOTE=BabaLoda;2164900]
Hands down Kimochi new mabes is the best.[/QUOTE]That particular Kimochi is in a crap area of town (Mangga Besar) so I have never tried that particular one, but I have no doubt it is good. Like any of these places, it depends on the girls they happen to have working there at the time.

[QUOTE=BabaLoda;2164900]P.S. - have tried kimochi new Mabes, the-heaven (grandwijaya), metropolis blok m massage.

Hands down Kimochi new is the best. The'Heaven is full of attitude for no reason, Metropolis. You can raw-dog (which is scary). So I want to now enjoy the comfort of my home and hence asking. Let me know please. Thank you![/QUOTE]I can confirm that, Kimochi has a decent room with amazing girls. I tried once, they girl is perfect 8/10. Very good massage. Asked for body slide but no one understand even after using google translate. Finished with wonderful BBBJ and HJ.

[QUOTE=BabaLoda;2164900]

Hands down Kimochi new is the best.[/QUOTE]Is this the kimochi across from hotel travel? What's the price for room and girl?

I worked on Java in 2014.

7 hours by train from Jakarta, but I got a handful of times in Jakarta. Loved it.

I have been preparing for this return visit since December.

As a precursor, I have an account on Indonesian Cupid, where I find most girls looking for a long-term relationship. Here are my 4 outliers out of maybe 100 who contact me.

1. I have one from IC (DIYA) who will openly fulfill my needs. The word naughty in her profile was a tip off. Duuhhh.

2. Another from IC (ANINDHITA), who I chat with on WhatsApp, agreed to meet me at my hotel. She asks "what I expect from her". I reply "nothing, you are the host in your country". Her reply shocked me, "If you looking for 1 night stand, I don't mind too. ".

3. Also from IC (MARIA) surprised me. Beautiful girl, Adamant that there will be no sex. Then, allegedly, her Dad got sick last month and things have now changed. Today she asks, "Can you help me if I stay with you when you are here. Will you give me money? I do not want to waste my time just for free. " She has a kid and has moved out of Dad's house to some small apartment in an alley. Claims she needs money to live and for child.

3 A. With Maria, I spent a fair amount of time over the past 2 months chatting and video-calling. She was my love affair, a woman to do things with away from mongering. From far away, it appears her story is true. I just don't know, but figure I have nothing to lose.

3 be. Before all this she agreed to come pick me up at the airport and drop me off at Shangri-La where I am staying.

4. Also from IC (LIYA), now wants to meet me at my hotel. The day after I arrive (because I arrive Wed evening and am set for Lades Night at BATS & CJ'S). Not sure of the best way to ask her about sex and what her plans with me are.

SUGGESTIONS from the experts please. Also comments and thoughts are appreciated.

SEA Traveler.

[QUOTE=BabaLoda;2164900]P.S. - have tried kimochi new Mabes, <snip> Hands down Kimochi new is the best. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2166097]Is this the kimochi across from hotel travel? What's the price for room and girl?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2165437]That particular Kimochi is in a crap area of town (Mangga Besar) so I have never tried that particular one, but I have no doubt it is good. Like any of these places, it depends on the girls they happen to have working there at the time.[/QUOTE]There are 5 Kimochi Spas in and around Jakarta. The oldest one, let's call that one Kimochi Spa 1, is located in front of Hotel Travel in Mangga Besar.

Then there is a second newer one, lets call this one Kimochi 2 even though it has formally changed its name to Pangeran Spa. Google Pangeran Spa for the exact location. This might be the one BabaLoda is reporting on if he is talking about Kimochi "new".

And then there is: Grand Kimochi Spa (Kimochi 3), then Kimochi Spa Cikarang / Bekasi (Kimochi 4) located outside Jakarta in Cikarang, & lastly the Grand Kimochi Spa Taman Palem (Kimochi 5) near the Aston Hotel. They all might be worth checking out, I don't know, but #5 is half way to the friggin' airport. LOL.

But thanks for the original report BabaLoda. The Kimochi Spas are definitely a good topic for conversation.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2166130]There are 5 Kimochi Spas in and around Jakarta. The oldest one, let's call that one Kimochi Spa 1, is located in front of Hotel Travel in Mangga Besar.

Then there is a second newer one, lets call this one Kimochi 2 even though it has formally changed its name to Pangeran Spa. Google Pangeran Spa for the exact location. This might be the one BabaLoda is reporting on if he is talking about Kimochi "new".

And then there is: Grand Kimochi Spa (Kimochi 3), then Kimochi Spa Cikarang / Bekasi (Kimochi 4) located outside Jakarta in Cikarang, & lastly the Grand Kimochi Spa Taman Palem (Kimochi 5) near the Aston Hotel. They all might be worth checking out, I don't know, but #5 is half way to the friggin' airport. LOL.[/QUOTE]If I am not mistaken, New Kimochi Mabes 2 is none of those.

Here's New Kimochi Mabes 2. It's basically behind Kartika or Illigals. you could walk to it from Hotel Mercure.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/dewakimochi/[/URL]

I have to laugh about the one across from Hotel Travel. That's the first spa I ever tried in Jakarta. What a dive.

Of the chicks on that Kimochi Mabes instagram site, I think I'd probably go with this one. It appears they do not have a steam room or sauna though so I won't be visiting.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2166110]
SEA Traveler.[/QUOTE]Your groundwork is admirable, you don't make clear what sort of relationship you are looking for, non-pro, semi-pro, GFE, long-term (ie the entire course of your visit) or one night stand, but here's how they look to me.

1, Diya, commercial, simply ask her the price and decide whether you are willing to pay, any more than 1 million and I wouldn't bother as at that money you can simply get whatever you need anywhere without the bother of meals and drinks or shopping (which I am guessing you are thinking about if you are going to the trouble of chatting and getting to know them).

2, Anindhita, semi-pro, will take longer to get to the point about the price and will pretend she doesn't normally do this sort of thing but strategy aside she will be pretty much the same as Diya.

3, Maria, semi-pro, but more manipulative, will cost a lot more than the two above, she also has a kid. Honestly, you will be paying over the odds for what you can get for 350 in one of the big meat markets and without the hassle. Don't let her take control of your stay in Jakarta, which I guarantee she will try to do. You are the customer (for have no doubts that is what you are), you must maintain the upper hand.

4, Liya, she is willing to come to your hotel, for what? Dinner and a drink, as a convenient meeting place from which you can go out to see the sights? Or to come up to your room? Any Indonesian woman who is willing to meet a complete stranger in his hotel room is a pro, otherwise I would put her down as semi-pro. Don't be afraid to broach the topic, they aren't shy about asking your plans.

So you have a nice line-up, all of them no doubt up for fun, and I am sure they will all make your stay an interesting one.

Just don't kid yourself, they are all commercial, more or less, choose a different one every night, don't invest anything like the idea of some romantic love match in any of them. In your free time go to a brothel or massage parlour where you will get the exact same result for less emotional commitment and half the price.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2166162]Of the chicks on that Kimochi Mabes instagram site, I think I'd probably go with this one.[/QUOTE]She's my type. Both girls I've been seeing in komplek Kota Indah are similar to her.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2166244]She's my type. [/QUOTE]Pretty much every girl on that site is my type. But that doesn't mean I will go there. LOL. There are so many places in Jakarta and so many girls. Almost every venue has nice girls.

However, I would like to find one with a sauna and steam room to relax before and after having sex.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2166243]Your groundwork is admirable, you don't make clear what sort of relationship you are looking for, non-pro, semi-pro, GFE, long-term (ie the entire course of your visit) or one night stand, but here's how they look to me.

So you have a nice line-up, all of them no doubt up for fun, and I am sure they will all make your stay an interesting one.

Just don't kid yourself, they are all commercial, more or less, choose a different one every night, don't invest anything like the idea of some romantic love match in any of them. In your free time go to a brothel or massage parlour where you will get the exact same result for less emotional commitment and half the price.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]THANKS for the sage advice. It all makes sense to me.

I still think Maria is a non-pro, based on all I have seen and heard as she can only make it out for 1 of the 4 nights I am there, because she has to make an excuse to her Mom why she is gone all night. BUT, you made me painfully aware to watch my step with her. I thank you for that insight. I was overlooking it.

In response to your other questions:

1. I want variety. In 2014, when in Jakarta, I would go to Maribaya spa in the afternoon or early evening and then arrive at CJ's or BATS around 10 pm. I would often end the night on Blok M at Top Gun. So I am good for about 3 women a day.

2. Mostly short term associations as I don't want the emotional drain. Plus, I am not interested in lying to some girl about marrying her just to get in her pants.

3. I definitely insist on GFE 90% of the time. I want some connection, just not too much. A stellar BBBJCIM will make me forget the GFE aspect, but that is next to impossible to find.

4. I hate meat markets or dis-interested providers. I had the worst ever experience of my life in Cilacap in 2014. After being there about 4 months, I asked a local cab driver about women for sex. I had not seen any P-4-P in my 4 months working there. He promised to find a girl for me. One night he calls and says he got one. When I got to town to meet, the girl took a look at me and jumped back in his cab. A first for me. I am the only bule in this town, but now I understand from this forum, that not all girls like foreigners. Oh well.

Anyway, he promised to bring another and about an hour later he did. She was young, age 20. Once in the hotel room I was down DATY. When I looked up she was sitting there like she wished she was anywhere else & just watching TV. ZERO excitement and ZERO participation. It was so "cold" that I just stopped, got up, got dressed and walked out. Never again.

Thanks again Hilo for the advice.

SEA Traveler.

Based on advise from Hilo 77, I started to be a bit more aggressive with my Indo Cupid dates. Regarding their expectations of our time together. As I arrive in less than 2 weeks.

Several will now mention that they want to come to my room after "drinks and dancing". Ha ha ha.

These are girls with legitimate full-time day jobs. I guess looking for some evening fun, excitement and presumably supplemental income.

I understand that the BATS & CJ'S freelancers start at 1. 5 million.

Where do these part-timers fall in the pay scale?

Is there ever a freebie and how do you know the etiquette? I am ok with paying, but I am just curious. Never had a freebie in Indonesia. Had a few in the Philippines years ago.

Thanks In Advance.

SEA Traveler.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2166640]Based on advise from Hilo 77, I started to be a bit more aggressive with my Indo Cupid dates. Regarding their expectations of our time together. As I arrive in less than 2 weeks.

Several will now mention that they want to come to my room after "drinks and dancing". Ha ha ha.

These are girls with legitimate full-time day jobs. I guess looking for some evening fun, excitement and presumably supplemental income.

I understand that the BATS & CJ'S freelancers start at 1. 5 million.

Where do these part-timers fall in the pay scale?

Is there ever a freebie and how do you know the etiquette? I am ok with paying, but I am just curious. Never had a freebie in Indonesia. Had a few in the Philippines years ago.

Thanks In Advance.

SEA Traveler.[/QUOTE]With freebies I usually will make sure that pay for food, drinks, and maybe buy a gift. Pretty much like you were on a date. In the past I have bought perfume from Australia that they have requested or alcohol. I think the term freebie is a misnomer but it's refreshing not digging into wallet after the act.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2166162]Here's New Kimochi Mabes 2. It's basically behind Kartika or Illigals. you could walk to it from Hotel Mercure.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/dewakimochi/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Nice lineup. What are the prices there?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2166162]If I am not mistaken, New Kimochi Mabes 2 is none of those.
Here's New Kimochi Mabes 2. It's basically behind Kartika or Illigals. you could walk to it from Hotel Mercure. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/dewakimochi/[/URL]

Of the chicks on that Kimochi Mabes instagram site, I think I'd probably go with this one. It appears they do not have a steam room or sauna though so I won't be visiting.[/QUOTE]A lot of the girls look young and doable. My first impression from the website is; the place kind of reminds me of Nataree. The girl whose photo I have just attached to this post, for example, found right at the top of the instagram list looks cute, sweet, and naughty to me. Just my kind of girl. 555. Thanks for the link. I might just check this place out in my ongoing efforts to expand my Jakarta horizon.

To give back to this thread I took one for the team and visited kimochi Mabes 2. Oddly the sign in the front says no. 6.

Walk in and you see photos of about 100 girls on the wall. Problem is that every girl I wanted was not working, including the photo Smoothy posted. I believe her name was keysha and not working today or this week. Maybe 20 girls available. The guy was really nice and patient as I tried to figure out who was working. Photos on one part of the wall and numbers listed of the girls working a distance away. I finally chose a girl. She did not look as good as the photo. She wasn't unattractive by any means but just facially not my type. I would not have chosen her at classic, travel or any of the kota Indah bars.

The massage was decent. She kept all her clothes on and moved away when I went for her tits. HJ was OK. No asking of any other extras. She was actually a very fun girl.

Price was 180 k for room and 150 k for the girl. You do not pay the girl directly so who knows how much of that 150 k she keeps. She would not accept a tip above the 150 k. Not sure if BBBJ or FS available we never discussed that and I figured I would save my energy for tonight.

Not sure if I will return. I really need to see a girl in person. I'm very picky. I only chose a girl to TOFTT. Difficult to catch a taxi after. You need to walk back out to the main street. I decided to just walk all the way to jonisteak.

Are delta and my place massage parlors the same where I do not get to see a girl first?