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[QUOTE=Manny51;1796859]I hope I don't get nailed for this, but I was hoping for some quick recommendations.
I have read the forums in the past, but there are SO many places and venues in Bangkok to research that I had usually given up and just hung out at Soi Cowboy.
But this time I am curious. I want to check out a soapy. Can anyone recommend the "best" ones? Since I am not here long term, I am not concerned with finding the best value per se. I would actually prefer a little higher end as long as its not too crazy a splurge.
I have read back on ISG as well as some other websites. One recommended Mitu. Most recommend Nataree, though most admit that it is a little worn down. I was thinking of checking out Emmanuelle or Poseiden.
And although I don't think it would be my cup of tea, I would like to at least eyeball a BJ club just once. Is there a classic one? I have only heard of BJ Salon.
I was also thinking of checking out the proverbial "ping pong ball" club. Is there a classic that isn't a cash grab?
Lots of questions, I know. Just a little overwhelmed by the vastness of options.[/QUOTE]Go to the Lord. Price is around 6 k baht, give or take 500 baht. Service and looks quality are top notch. I went last week for the second time and can still recommend it if you don't care about price.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1797179]Just speculation on my part. From what I gather, most of the oilies fall in the same class, no place that's really a standout in all regards. They keep operating with only minimal improvements and upkeep. When new places open up, they setup like all the other places. Fresh paint, newer furniture, but still business as usual.
What I'm suggesting is, if someone opened a better class of oily, something opulent and extravagant, then brought in only the best talent and insisted on top notch performance, all at a higher rate, it would revitalize that sector. Some of the existing oilies would continue as usual, but they would be unable to raise prices. Some oilies would remodel, make changes and try to compete. Isn't that what happened with the gogos several years ago? It just took 1 or 2 and suddenly there were a dozen.[/QUOTE]They're probably all owned by the same owner. It's probably about 2-3 actual owners with various managers who appear to be the owner but aren't, or have to pay some poo yai. These places all collude to not compete. That's why they are all run-down, as nobody will renovate so the others don't' have to either.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;1797601]Absolutely correct. I was there a few weeks ago and I noticed the mad rush for drinks. I spent quite a bit of money one night without realizing it. They could have padded my bill as well. Became very careful about how much I spend in GoGo bars after that. So, I am not sure if this is a good business model long term.[/QUOTE]I noticed almost all the regular (non-coyote) girls in Shark Gogo (supposed to have the most eye candy) were all fat. Like maybe 1/5 were getting close to fat or just not fat. But the rest were chubby. The Coyotes (which require 1500 BF) were pretty and fit. I have no idea how much they want for ST but I imagine it is high and totally not worth it.
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Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1797600]You need to look up the acronym RTFF, or if you are that clueless send a PM (as in private message) to someone. Maybe they will help.[/QUOTE]I did RTFF. I am just curious, not like I am looking for some sort of secret. Doesn't matter, if I ever get back to Bangkok I know where to go, for me.
And, if it's all about buying drinks with half naked or naked chicks running around, and that's all, then I really don't get it. :)
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[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;1797936]I did RTFF. I am just curious, not like I am looking for some sort of secret. Doesn't matter, if I ever get back to Bangkok I know where to go, for me.
And, if it's all about buying drinks with half naked or naked chicks running around, and that's all, then I really don't get it. :)[/QUOTE]This is just what I've picked up from the forum. The gogos, like Crazy House, offer a variety of entertainment options. The most obvious is to sit and drink while watching naked and semi-naked girls dance around. If that doesn't appeal to you, you can sit and drink with naked and semi-naked girls, while watching others dance around. If this is also unappealing, you can, after paying a fee to the bar, take one or two of the aforementioned girls to your hotel room. What exactly might happen in your hotel room is a mystery to me, but it seems to be very popular with many forum contributers.
They use a lot of acronyms. I'll try to decipher them for you.
Everyone knows CG stands for Cover Girl, this is where she helps decide which mascara is best for you.
Mish is probably a typo. It could be Mosh, if you're into heavy metal, or it could be Mush, so either dog sledding or corn based foods.
DFK is Deep Fried Knish. I'd skip it unless you're Jewish.
BBBJ is Better Buy Bigger Jeans. Those DFKs are fattening.
CBJ is Catch Billie Jean, a popular cross-dresser show featuring the music of Michael Jackson.
I hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1797983]you can, after paying a fee to the bar, take one or two of the aforementioned girls to your hotel room. What exactly might happen in your hotel room is a mystery to me, but it seems to be very popular with many forum contributors.[/QUOTE]I think it has something to do with sexual congress, but I am not sure. 555. Nonetheless CH is my current favorite Go Go.
The 1st floor is where I always go to view the top talent and select a girl or girls for my sexual pleasure ie fornication / boom boom, to leave no doubt in anybodies mind. On Thurs, Fri, and Saturday nights CH can it get very busy and pretty crowded on the 1st floor. The 2nd floor is designed to handle the overflow on those nights. Thus the mamasan will assign less popular girls to dance upstairs. Also, the 2nd floor, when it is open, is more bawdy and seemingly more private than the 1st floor. That is why, IMHO, it is best for drinking Tequilas and seriously fooling around with your girl or girls later in the evening after you have had sexual congress with them in your hotel room. Yeah, on a few occasions I have done this. The lesbian and candle dripping shows are on the 2nd floor too.
P.S. I am moving this discussion to the Bangkok Reports section.
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Bongkoch
After my so so session at mango, I had spent a few nights walking around soi 11 near ambassador and found many dirty ladys willing with both holes but the looks were not enough to garner my interest also walking by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] they looked to fugly to even interest me for getting sucked off, then next to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] was one girl who was very pushy making sucking motions and grabbing me to come inside saying she liked big ones not sure how she could tell I was packing but they must be able to judge, she looked a lot better than the rest of the aldys also, younger and taller but her pink lipstick put me off for some reason.
So then since I was leaving Bangkok last week, on my last day I took a walk in the afternoon down soi 24/1 but was surprised to see such plain looking women outside all the shops so I didn't even bother to venture inside, I'm not sure if iv gotten less horney or more picky but 10 years ago ID walk down a street like soi 24 and be horney to fuck 70 percent plus of the ladys but after living with an ex tulip lady who is all holes totally open I feel a total let down to pay for a possible lousy pse experience with very plain overweight providers.
So after dinner I decided to check out bongkot seeing as it has good reviews on here and also thought I might find a lady for a cheaper short time on soi 22 . After walking down the soi I reached hana massage but the 2 sois there with massage shops always seem to have a few lousy looking thai guys hanging around drinking there so that puts me off from checking the shops out. By then I was getting frustrated which calls for downing a can of cheers extra which is remarkable good for the price seems just as good as all the other crap thai beers which arnt any cheaper now than getting a good beer in the us or europe. So after 2 cans down I was feeling the warm blood rush to my face and balls and the ladys were starting to look more appealing for all you mongers out there with years of exprience I'm susrpised at the people complaing about the looks in the pse shops I long since learnt that a few beers solves that problem for no extra charge. Now after walking back down soi 22 I finally spotted BONGKOCH MASSAGE I thought it odd there was just 1 ladys outside but she was pale and looked quite good so I went inside and seemed to be no more women to choose from but since she looked good I just said to her I want an oil massage and she took me inside the shop then I got my next surprize we didn't go up and stairs just behind some curtains and she tolkd me to undress and there was a towel on the bed by this stage I was confused how we could fuck in there and was wondering had I made some mistake but thought there can only be 1 bongkot shop in soi 22 so I put on the towl and waited and the lady came back then I lay down and she started the oil massage so to cut a now boring story short she didn't do anything.
After the massage I quickly payed and went outside to check the shops name again and then with my beer having worn off read the sign BONGKOCH not BONGKOT so that totally f* ans wasted my last night in Bangkok I wonder if the shop deliberatly chose that name and if other people make the same mistake so this is a warning if your drunk and on soi 22 and trying to find bongkot the pse shop.
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[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;1797936]I did RTFF. I am just curious, not like I am looking for some sort of secret. Doesn't matter, if I ever get back to Bangkok I know where to go, for me.
And, if it's all about buying drinks with half naked or naked chicks running around, and that's all, then I really don't get it.[/QUOTE]If you are tired of Soi Cowboy, check out Soi 33. It has Dream Heaven, an oillie massage shop with inclusive prices for full service (about 2100 baht). Soi 33 is, IMO, better than Soi Cowboy. It's nothing comparable as it is just an ordinary enough sukh soi, but it has good food, hotels, a few obviously dirty massage shops and some beer bars with ladies. It's a chill place with better prices.
Also definitely check out the oillies that are massed up together on soi 24/1.
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;1797851]Go to the Lord. Price is around 6 k baht, give or take 500 baht. Service and looks quality are top notch. I went last week for the second time and can still recommend it if you don't care about price.[/QUOTE]Park, could you please define "top notch?" Rimming (giving and receiving), DFK, multiple shots, BBBJCIM? I have no issue paying 6 k baht for a great looking gal that provides PSE service. Enlighten us.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1798139]Park, could you please define "top notch?" Rimming (giving and receiving), DFK, multiple shots, BBBJCIM? I have no issue paying 6 k baht for a great looking gal that provides PSE service. Enlighten us.[/QUOTE]I too would like to know about places other than the PSE oilies that provide essentially PSE or GFE service. I might adjust Goatscrot's list a bit to suit my tastes (how about trading Rimming (girl receiving) and BBBJCIM for anal?) but anything close would be helpful.
One of the problems here is that we all have different standards for levels and type of service desired, and when someone (and I mean this generally, not specifically re an individual poster) posts a review essentially saying one girl gave good or great service, it is hard to know what to make of it.
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Please don't take offense to this, but it kind of boggles my mind that you got to Crazy Horse / Soi Cowboy and then couldn't figure out what to do. It seems pretty obvious. There is plenty more you can do other than just watching girls dance naked on stage.
[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;1797536]I must admit that I was in Bangkok for the first time a few months ago, first thing we did was head to Soi Cowboy, and went to Crazy Horse. I couldn't figure out what the deal was. My friend and I got a beer and were shown upstairs. I guess there were some girls dancing on stage, that didn't seem to be anything important. There were a couple of naked Thai girls kind of prancing about, one sat on my lap for a minute and then took off to another guy. There was never an opportunity to tip, no sales pitch, couldn't really approach the dancers on the stage. I couldn't figure it out. What is supposed to go on there?
I found my personal piece of Thai heaven at the Beer Garden. That I could figure out.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1798148]I too would like to know about places other than the PSE oilies that provide essentially PSE or GFE service. I might adjust Goatscrot's list a bit to suit my tastes (how about trading Rimming (girl receiving) and BBBJCIM for anal?) but anything close would be helpful.
One of the problems here is that we all have different standards for levels and type of service desired, and when someone (and I mean this generally, not specifically re an individual poster) posts a review essentially saying one girl gave good or great service, it is hard to know what to make of it.[/QUOTE]I like a little A+ sometimes for sure, but figured that would be pushing it for The Lord. Yes, it would be nice to hear some descriptions of the service. As you said it really varies. Residents and frequent visitors have a different idea of good service when compared to a doe-eyed newbie.
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[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;1797936]I did RTFF. I am just curious, not like I am looking for some sort of secret. Doesn't matter, if I ever get back to Bangkok I know where to go, for me.
And, if it's all about buying drinks with half naked or naked chicks running around, and that's all, then I really don't get it. :)[/QUOTE]I don't really get gogos either. I'd rather go to a Suk PSE oily where you can spell out what you want and in my experience, service is pretty much guaranteed and then go an chill out and have some fun in a beer bar later.
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[QUOTE=Mjen1970;1798625]I don't really get gogos either. I'd rather go to a Suk PSE oily where you can spell out what you want and in my experience, service is pretty much guaranteed and then go an chill out and have some fun in a beer bar later.[/QUOTE]It is all about naked chicks running around and for the small price of a lady drink allow you to sample her talents and if she pleases you, negotiate for a more in-depth peformance at your hotel room.
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[QUOTE=Mjen1970;1798625]I don't really get gogos either. I'd rather go to a Suk PSE oily where you can spell out what you want and in my experience, service is pretty much guaranteed and then go an chill out and have some fun in a beer bar later.[/QUOTE]Yep, me too. Would rather have a nice early afternoon oily, head home for a nap, then out with the boys for some good food, drinks, and conversation. But I do understand why visitors love the GoGos. I know very few residents who frequent GoGos after living here for a few years. Most guys either frequent oilies or have a phone full of numbers they can call for home delivery.