Jakarta

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2166698]Nice lineup. What are the prices there?[/QUOTE]Scroll down the website. You will find this pic with prices. There are also a few pictures of the rooms. They look basic, but relatively clean and well lit.

Good, timely report BB. You posted it while I was atttaching the price photo. I can't believe full service is not on the menu for a little extra. I prefer to see the girls in person first before choosing too. Who doesn't? So, it sounds like this is a pretty simple, baisic place. It still might be worth checking out on a slow afternoon when I have nothing better to do, but it is not at the top of my priorities list.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2166804]
Are delta and my place massage parlors the same where I do not get to see a girl first?[/QUOTE]Yes, that is true. You cannot see the girls first. But you can see them first at Tematik Spa.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2166640]
Several will now mention that they want to come to my room after "drinks and dancing". Ha ha ha.

These are girls with legitimate full-time day jobs. I guess looking for some evening fun, excitement and presumably supplemental income.


[/QUOTE]I am not clear whether the "drinks and dancing" girls are among the previous girls you mentioned (Lya, Maria etc), but that puts a bit of a different perspective on things. A woman who is prioritizing drinks and dancing and not mentioning money does appear to be simply a civilian looking to be entertained on a nice night out (I am assuming at this point that you are reasonably presentable young chap and can hold a fairly decent conversation).

Frankly, if after you have pushed the issue as far as you have without being rude, and no money has been mentioned, then you must be entitled to assume it's a freebie. If she later asks for money, you can pay up, but with ill grace and some annoyance, and she doesn't get a second date.

As regards payment for semi-pros (ie not those openly describing themselves as BO) on Tinder, well how long is a piece of string? Smoothy and I have our differences on this, but I figure if you arrange a short time date, in the afternoon, at a place not far from where she lives, you can get it for around 600 k to 700 k. She isn't exactly overwhelmed with options at that time, she can reach your place by ojek and by maghrib she's free with cash in hand to either go home to mama or stay out and hook another date, at a somewhat higher rate. I certainly would advise not paying more than 800 k for a dating site hook-up, unless we are talking runway model looks and frankly even then why bother? But get it cleared up in advance.

Just my opinions, others will surely disagree (I have to be careful, people are getting a bit sensitive about blokes expressing their opinions around here).

I think it's some kind of religious holiday this weekend in Indonesia. Does anyone know if that will cause the fun places to be closed down this weekend?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2167040]Yes, that is true. You cannot see the girls first. But you can see them first at Tematik Spa.[/QUOTE]What about Orchardz, B Fashion, FM1, Peach Blossom, Griya Sehat, etc. Can I see the girls first?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2167102]What about Orchardz, B Fashion, FM1, Peach Blossom, Griya Sehat, etc. Can I see the girls first?[/QUOTE]Orchardz-don't know.

B Fashion -don't know.

FM1 -Yes.

Peach Blossom-No.

Griya Sehat-No.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2167064]I am not clear whether the "drinks and dancing" girls are among the previous girls you mentioned (Lya, Maria etc), but that puts a bit of a different perspective on things. A woman who is prioritizing drinks and dancing and not mentioning money does appear to be simply a civilian looking to be entertained on a nice night out (I am assuming at this point that you are reasonably presentable young chap and can hold a fairly decent conversation).

Just my opinions, others will surely disagree (I have to be careful, people are getting a bit sensitive about blokes expressing their opinions around here).[/QUOTE]Very astute that you picked up on the change in modus operandi. Ha ha ha.

Yes, this is ANITA from Indo Cupid. We chatted a bit a few months back, then maybe a weekly "Hello," on WhatsApp just to stay in touch. I could never figure out her motives from gentle probing. Encouraged by your observations, I pushed a bit further about how we will spend our time together and she answered back, "after drink and dance we will spend time in room" (smiley face).

LIYA on the other hand says, "I am not intense doing sexs" which I think means "I am not interested in sex".

Yesterday I signed up for Tinder Gold as I will now be in and out of Indonesia within the 30 days for $30 plan.

Tinder is a whole new beast. I am already quickly learning that English is not spoken as much as on the dating sites. More on that as I explore.

I did get 1 match that says - "open BO number me +62* Gk ush basa bari 1,5". I assume the 1,5 meant 1. 5 juta and that this was a pro. What does the BO designation mean??

Lastly, WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OWN OPINION. At least in America. Everyone should simply respect that or at least agree-to-disagree and be courteous about it.

Hilo, Thanks for the sage advice.

11 days and counting!

SEA Traveler.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2167105]Orchardz-don't know.
B Fashion -don't know.
FM1 -Yes.
Peach Blossom-No.
Griya Sehat-No.[/QUOTE]Hopefully helpful for BFashion [URL]http://therapistfashionspa.********.com.au/2017/07/nomor-2-anggi-foto-therapist-fashion-spa.html[/URL].

Regards.

NI.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2167091]I think it's some kind of religious holiday this weekend in Indonesia. Does anyone know if that will cause the fun places to be closed down this weekend?[/QUOTE]I'm sure you already know this but everything is open. Not as crazy as last night for sure though.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2167236]I did get 1 match that says - "open BO number me +62* Gk ush basa bari 1,5". I assume the 1,5 meant 1. 5 juta and that this was a pro. What does the BO designation mean??

SEA Traveler.[/QUOTE]It translates as "Open Booking, call me +62. No small talk, 1. 5 jt".

"Booking" or "BO" Is she is available to book for sex.

Similarly "no basa basi" indicates she wants to just discuss where and when with no polite Chats or texts needed.

Basically, she's just being honest and upfront that this is a purely commercial arrangement.

I'm not sure if you have seen it but there is a Pen Pals and Chat rooms page on the Philippines board that discusses a lot of MO's that would also be applicable to your situation and in Indonesia generally. It has some good debate on he benefits or planning ahead vs using yhe Apps once you arrive.

Hi,

I plan to be in Jakarta for the weekend the 20th to 22nd of April, so PM me if you want to meet-up.

I have not been to Jakarta for a very long time, and this is a once in a blue moon visit so I want to make the most of it (after RTTF). The plan is to stay in the Harris Vertu, and visit Malioboro and Malio for the day, and on Saturday evening visit CJ or BATS. I am also thinking of visiting Colosseum 1001 for the Friday night. I assume you can take out a lady for a LT there? Since I this is a short trip, I am looking for quality.

I also remember a very long time ago I went to a club / really dark bar, where a mamasan introduced me a few girls that I could talk to first to see if we got on. I remember taking the girl for the whole evening. Any suggestion on the best place to do the same?

Any feedback would be great.

[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;2167361]Hi,

I plan to be in Jakarta for the weekend the 20th to 22nd of April, so PM me if you want to meet-up.

I have not been to Jakarta for a very long time, and this is a once in a blue moon visit so I want to make the most of it (after RTTF). The plan is to stay in the Harris Vertu, and visit Malioboro and Malio for the day, and on Saturday evening visit CJ or BATS. I am also thinking of visiting Colosseum 1001 for the Friday night. I assume you can take out a lady for a LT there? Since I this is a short trip, I am looking for quality.

I also remember a very long time ago I went to a club / really dark bar, where a mamasan introduced me a few girls that I could talk to first to see if we got on. I remember taking the girl for the whole evening. Any suggestion on the best place to do the same?

Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]Heads up that 1001 (I. E. KTV / Club not spa) can get very expensive to book the girl out for LT. They use voucher system there, so the lowest price for 1 voucher is 600 K, and the next tier level is 1 mil. So you pay 1 voucher to book the girl while in the club to accompany you and probably another 5 vouchers to book her out LT. Then they still expect a tip the next day, as they are required to pay off their mamasan. If you add them up, they are not cheap. However, I do like the quality of the girls there. At least they accept credit cards and to think about it, Jakarta is one of the very few places where you can actually use your CC for P4P.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2164684]What good does that do when they all went home to their villages for Idul Fitri?[/QUOTE]One of my contacts has her family living in Jakarta, so she will be there. There are some others, too. Not all is hopeless.

CJ's may be moneywise a better option than a take out from let's say Malio. As for Tinder, I don't see any need to pay for it, as it is a spontaneous thing. You just have to 'relocate' your profile on FB to your travel location prior to signing into Tinder.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2167105]Orchardz-don't know.[/QUOTE]It's a no. Another one of those places where you pick a random number and hope she isn't a dog.