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[QUOTE=WanderingGroo;2028239]Freiercafe already took their AO clubs forum posts down about 2 days ago.
Damn! That's one of the few sites I can access at McDonald's free internet (I can't access ISG there)![/QUOTE]They actually deleted all forum they had about RTC clubs. Completely. The new law (effective July) can't be the reason for that.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028484]They actually deleted all forum they had about RTC clubs. Completely. The new law (effective July) can't be the reason for that.[/QUOTE]Why not the new law? Clubs aren't allowed anymore to make ads for BBBJ or BBFS. And reports at boards ofc are ads for clubs and for BBFS and BBBJ and FC is financed most likely from clubs. And therefore to avoid trouble with the clubs FC deleted all AO club reports. And is it only RTC clubs? What about for other AO clubs like DVR or LaLuna?
Because the law is effective July. The clubs will adjust their advertising and service. Nothing illegal there. So why delete the respective forums on a P6 board?
HB.
Think I posted about this before. Decided to try Grimberg again. Apparently does have a new "no negro" policy. Not sure if that's management, or whatever idiot-chick answers the door. But this is twice, both times a girl I had never seen before (been there a few times). First time however the lady who takes the entrance fee came to the door and refused to let me in. Odd since she knows me, and has happily taken my money in the past Maybe someone complained? Same thing happen at goldentime (my fault tho) should have researched it better. Intermittently happens at Living room.
Odd thing happened at F39 yesterday. A girl who always had a "no chocolate " thing in the past. Decided I was OK and F'd my brains out. She said the girls talk and have decided I'm "good".
At any rate, weird few days. Happy hunting.
Because of the warnings given by the owners on the club probably. The threat of "hausverbot" if you write about those clubs on a board.
Freiercafe removed some years ago all the posts about bareback.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028579]Because the law is effective July. The clubs will adjust their advertising and service. Nothing illegal there. So why delete the respective forums on a P6 board?.[/QUOTE]For the same reasons as was already discussed on this board about 18 months to 2 years ago when Friere cafe banned AO posts but did not remove whole RTC forum threads. Don't you remember, Hubba?
It could be possible under the new law for the authorities to go after the media through which AO paid sex is being promoted / facilitated as well as the actual clubs where the AO activity is taking place. If the forums for the RTCs and AO clubs are still operational then discussion and promotion of AO paid sex may still carry on using code or euphemisms. The authorities could potentially take action against the forums through censure, crippling fines or blocking the sites if they feel that these sites are allowing / facilitating this.
These sites like Friere Cafe just don't want the hassle and know that if they pull entire RTC / AO club threads / forums then there will be no possibility that they could be infringing the new law. There is plenty of business that they have already through discussion about other clubs like 'normal' FKKs. Discussion of BBBJ in the FKK threads could still infringe the law but everyone knows that it is the places that specialise in wholesaling BBFS activity which the authorities are really concerned about.
[QUOTE=Myrrh;2028736]For the same reasons as was already discussed on this board about 18 months to 2 years ago when Friere cafe banned AO posts but did not remove whole RTC forum threads. Don't you remember, Hubba?
These sites like Friere Cafe just don't want the hassle and know that if they pull entire RTC / AO club threads / forums then there will be no possibility that they could be infringing the new law. There is plenty of business that they have already through discussion about other clubs like 'normal' FKKs. Discussion of BBBJ in the FKK threads could still infringe the law but everyone knows that it is the places that specialise in wholesaling BBFS activity which the authorities are really concerned about.[/QUOTE]No I do not remember, I don't read there.
The new law applies to Germany, to all clubs, so reports about BB or BBBJ are a problem. So they (like every other board) will have to make sure that it is not reported about anymore. No matter which club, apartment, escort, street hookers. Did they shut down the board or delete other forums? No the didn't. Just some, all with the same owner. Coincidence?
HB.
As you might know the management of the RTC chain (Like F39, Arabella, etc) ORDERED Freiercafe to remove all posts of their clubs from FC website. So it was not initiative of FC but from RTC management.
So, the new law did is not directly the cause of this, but probably indirectly it is, since RTC management wants to be clear from any possible damage far ahead of the July 1st deadline.
*ORDERED = friendly representation of what really happened, it might also be translated to threatened.
They should ask themselves how it could happen that a club owner can order them to remove posts. I didn't want to spread it out here, just tried to make clear that it was not the new law which led to that decision.
HB.
On my whistle stop tour of various offerings from the sex providers (gangbangs, apartments, saunaclubs, no streetwalkers as they have been hounded almost out of existence ) I thought I ought to revisit a rtc.
Arabella was quiet. Unlike Living Room the same day there was a shortage of men. I get the general impression that Myrrh was right when he said that German men are already running shy of the new law
The business concept of 30 euro entry for no food or comfort is unattractive compared to 60 euros or less for a day with food and comfort at a non rtc club.
There were about 8 girls with photo cards by the desk. The Theke Frau was relaxed and welcoming. The girls generally could not compare with the top 25% at Living Room, apart from one girl who was young and super slim..Absolutely top level looks. Unfortunately she stopped working just after I arrived: maybe unwell, I don't know. I had been recommended Alexandra but she was absent.
I went with Amira. Anyone who knows my tastes would be surprised at my slightly overweight choice. The session was absolutely top rate, which is what I have always found in rtc. DFK enthusiastically, and she had an orgasm within ten minutes. This is the sort of service I aim to get but seems to be increasingly rare in the big clubs.
I gave her the asking price of 30 euros plus a 10 euro tip, for which she did not ask.
Worth every euro. Which is why I object to being told in Sharks that 50 euros only buys fuck and suck or that spending 500 euros a day is not much
What time did you get there?
Alexandra usually leaves like 5:30 pm or 6:00 pm sometimes, but then again, sometimes one or two of the girls have errands to run on some days.
Ariana and Alexandra are my two favorites (yes, I like them thin with a cute face)!
Wandering. The Theke Frau said Alexandra had a free day. The slim girl (Ariana) left about 14.00.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029482]Arabella was quiet. Unlike Living Room the same day there was a shortage of men. I get the general impression that Myrrh was right when he said that German men are already running shy of the new law
I went with Amira. Anyone who knows my tastes would be surprised at my slightly overweight choice. The session was absolutely top rate, which is what I have always found in rtc. DFK enthusiastically, and she had an orgasm within ten minutes. This is the sort of service I aim to get but seems to be increasingly rare in the big clubs.
I gave her the asking price of 30 euros plus a 10 euro tip, for which she did not ask.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that many Germans tend to take a few days holiday either side of the Easter weekend so this probably contributed to the low numbers.
Also, I thought that you were resolutely against tipping of any amount and I am sure that I have seen posts by you in the past chiding others about the dangers to the mongering eco-system caused by tipping?
[QUOTE=Myrrh;2029534]My understanding is that many Germans tend to take a few days holiday either side of the Easter weekend so this probably contributed to the low numbers.
Also, I thought that you were resolutely against tipping of any amount and I am sure that I have seen posts by you in the past chiding others about the dangers to the mongering eco-system caused by tipping?[/QUOTE]Not rare you just need to know the girls, Saturday one of my regular girl told me 5 times thank you because I was able to make her come obviously it took me a long time and energy.
[QUOTE=Myrrh;2029534]My understanding is that many Germans tend to take a few days holiday either side of the Easter weekend so this probably contributed to the low numbers.
Also, I thought that you were resolutely against tipping of any amount and I am sure that I have seen posts by you in the past chiding others about the dangers to the mongering eco-system caused by tipping?[/QUOTE] Mea culpa. My sins are discovered :) Frailty thy name is Optimist.
Quite right. I always campaign against tipping for the reasons you say. But like all rules there are times to bend them. Maybe I should not have but I did as the service (if not the looks) was at the top of the pyramid.
You are right: I am almost fanatical in my objections to up selling and the effect of tipping on the eco system. I do tip occasionally but increasingly rarely.
As for numbers, LR and GT were heaving on the same day having the advantage of good outside areas and food.
I think your view that some German men appear already to be changing their behaviour in advance of July 1 may be correct