Lima

Just my two cents, but Peru in general, and Lima in particular, sucks goat balls.

Go enjoy Quito and make sure to come back and tell us all about your Ecuadorian adventures.

[QUOTE=Bricks]Forgive me if this has been discussed before but can someone compare Quito versus Lima. Quality, quantity, similiarities and differences.

I booked a trip to Lima in March but after looking at the pictures on the Quito board I am not sure if I made the right decision. Is it worth paying the $200 transfer fee to change my flight to Quito? Also, where are the pictures of the Lima beauties?[/QUOTE]

Not sure if Elberto is making a joke (?) but I have been to both cities recently and enjoyed both very much. I am hesitant to say one is better than the other since tastes vary and you can have a great time in either.

I would say there is a tremendous variety of activities in Lima- a much larger city, which are not all available in Quito. Lima offers saunas, SWs, strip clubs, pick-up discos, out-calls, massage parlors and casas, both small and large. The food is more international and of generally better quality. Also the air is not so thin at sea level as it is at 10,000 feet. Overall, I enjoyed Lima more due to this variety of options and activities.

Quito has an amazing selection of chongos - small bars/casas with attached rooms where you meet a chica and spend 10-30 minutes in the room. See Tung's incredible list of Quito chongos. Cost is only $7 to $15 per ficha and some of the girls are quite attractive. But you have very little time to spend in a small, dirty room with a woman who usually cannot wash and is often in a hurry. You usually need to stand in line to use the rooms. Very little GFE. If that is your thing, you will be in heaven. But if you want to take a woman back to your room and spend several hours in private - well, that's not so easy or very cheap. Most chicas will not leave with you, and if they do want $75-$100 US. I spent almost a month in Quito and NEVER took a chica back to my apartment or had an out-call.

There is one decent massage parlor in Quito (817 El Espectador) which is inexpensive, but nothing remotely like R & V or some of the other MPs in Lima as to style or GFE. Same for street girls. I went home with 4 different Pizza Alley chicas in Lima averaging $35 each for 1-2 hours. That is not easy to find in Quito. If you love the chongo scene you will find much the same at El Trocadero in Lima, but on a larger scale. You can also hook-up with David33's ladies delivered to your room for around $65. All in all, many more options and GFE in Lima, albeit at a slightly higher price point. But you would find plenty of action in either city . . .

[QUOTE=Quito has an amazing selection of chongos - small bars/casas with attached rooms where you meet a chica and spend 10-30 minutes in the room. See Tung's incredible list of Quito chongos. Cost is only $7 to $15 per ficha and some of the girls are quite attractive. But you have very little time to spend in a small, dirty room with a woman who usually cannot wash and is often in a hurry. You usually need to stand in line to use the rooms. Very little GFE. If that is your thing, you will be in heaven. But if you want to take a woman back to your room and spend several hours in private - well, that's not so easy or very cheap. Most chicas will not leave with you and if they do want $75-$100 US. I spent almost a month in Quito and NEVER took a chica back to my apartment.

There is one decent massage parlor in Quito (817 El Espectador) which is inexpensive, but nothing remotely like R & V or some of the other MPs in Lima. Same for street girls. I went home with 4 different Pizza Alley chicas in Lima averaging $35 each for 1-2 hours. If you love the chongo scene you will find the same at El Trocadero in Lima, but on a much larger scale. You can also hook-up with David33's ladies delivered to your room for around $65. All in all, many more options and GFE in Lima, albeit at a slightly higher price point. But you would find plenty of action in either city . . .[/QUOTE]Thank you Prok! I do enjoy the chongos during the day then GFE during the late night. After seeing Tung's photos on the Quito board I was more concerned with the beauty of the girls in the Chongos. Is El Trocadero similiar? Can you bring in cameras? Also, other then David's beauties there are not many photos to compare. What is your take on the comparing the women in Quito vs Lima? Specifically the body. I like the bubble butt girls like you would find in brazil.

Thank again!

I see the Sole is holding its own against the ailing US economic woes. Yippe!
Ill see all my fellow mongers in Deciembre.

Vaughnyb

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I made it out to the Troc after an absence of more than a year. Black Page is right and I am wrong. Things have changed a great deal. Seems that with the closure of Hotel San Jose and other illegal spots, many girls have moved to the Troc. They have gotten rid of most of the grandmothers who were there during the last 30 years or so in the far left corrider. The famous Pili (one of Nibu´s favorites) seems to also have been removed. Lots more cute girls, plenty of hard core NO gfe girls from Ecuador on the right hand side. Cute but clock watchers. Generally much better service from the Peruvians. Many DO GET THERE at 3:30, staying till around 9:00 or so. Troc chica reviews can be found on Perutops for those of you who habla Español. Also stopped by Las Cucardas. STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU STAY AWAY. The same old 30 minutes reducing to 15, promising everything and giving nothing tricks one finds in the worst P4P venues. Only for guys who love CBJs, lousy treatment and are premature ejaculators.

Since I've visited both, for slightly less than a week each (within the last 18 months), I'll weigh in here.

LIMA
Pro's - more cosmopolitan, easier to pick up non-pros, good escort scene
Cons - more expensive, big enough to be overwhelming at first (assuming one gets out of Miraflores, and it seems many Gringos don't)

QUITO
Pro's - very inexpensive, easy to get around on public transportation, dozens of dirt-cheap chongos for on-premises fun
Cons - I'd say more street crime (overall), non-pro scene would take time to master, escort scene next to none

While 5-6 days is barely enough time to judge ANY destination, I preferred Quito... especially for a budget-minded, middle aged, married monger making his first trip to South America.

Slightly off topic - but I also made it to Medellin this year, and liked it ALMOST as much as Quito.

[QUOTE=Paintergle]I planning trip to Lima x-mas week, have been to CR, Panama, Venezuela, I have met a cutie in the internet lives in Lima, and when I ask her where she recomends to stay, Espana hotel downtown, she lives in the Jesus Maria area, so I am asking is the a safe area, I told her that I had thought of the Mirflores area she said that was about an hour drive away, but where ever I wanted to stay, I have contacted the Espana and very cheap rooms, and the fotos of the hotel rooms very nice. So any input from those living or having been there would be greatly appreciated. And also I would like very much to meet and posibiley party with some or all.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm staying at the Hotel Espana now. Rooms with bathroom are 50 soles. I haven't tried to bring in a girl. They have signs that disallow guests, not sure if enforced for nice quiet looking guests. After 11pm they enforce quiet. I'd say that the area is safe enough for walking in the day/early evening. After that, take a taxi - trips of say 5km are only about 10 soles ($3)

Came back from Cusco on Thursday after a very exciting and tiring trip. I had a dinner appointment with a regular girl at 10 PM. Since I had just limited action in Cusco, I was feeling very horny after arriving in Lima. I somehow promised the girl in Relax y Vida, for a repeat visit, after my sensational session with her last week. But decided for a home delivery and do the deed in the cozy confinement of my hotel room.

Before going to Lima, I made a list of some selected escorts. The number one on the list was Karoy. My notes regarding the comment on the Perutop forum reads: A trophy date, the best escort, mid 20’s, charges 100 USD per hour, but extremely difficult to get an appointment. Number to call 99119-1238. With almost no chance of getting her I dialed the number around 11:30 AM. As it turned out, I was able to reach her at first try. The girl, who was talking over the phone sounded older, not sophisticated enough to be a trophy date (later found out that this was the service girl who makes her appointments). I thought of bait and switch, however, at this point all I need was a release and was willing to lose $100. Although I can afford the money, I always bargain. So I started with 200 Soles. She won’t budge from 300 Soles. Finally the deal was made at 250 Soles plus taxi. In my mind I knew it will be finally 300 Soles and I will end up with an ugly chica. I made the appointment for 4 PM.

Just around 2:30 PM, I started sneezing ceaselessly. I was having a constant runny nose. I realized I am having some kind of allergic episode. Normally I carry the Actifed, which will stop runny nose within one hour. But this trip I had none with me. At this stage, how could I see any chica, let alone a Trophy date. I like DFK and that will be automatically out. She might even take the money and run out as a result of my temporary indisposition. Frantically, I called back the number to cancel the appointment. The Murphy ’s Law took hold and predictably all I was getting an answering machine. With no chance of avoiding meeting the chica, I took a 20 mg Cialis around 3 PM and started praying for the Trophy date not to show up. Well I have to include Cialis along Actifed, as a drug of choice to stop this sudden burst of allergic reaction. The runny nose practically stopped within an hour.

Right at 4 PM, the door bell buzzed. I opened the door and a saw a very pretty girl. However, at my age I don’t get wow-ed! Yes she is pretty, but Trophy date(?)- I don’t know. First of all, she is not that tall. She said 1.68 m, but I think she is much shorter. Her breasts were enhanced (nicely done though), which I practically hate. The blonde hair is colored, not real. But she has a great figure and I must say generally, she is a looker. However, she talks very very fast. Only Spanish, no English.

After exchanging pleasantry, we sat on the sofa. One thing was bothering me constantly is her excessive make up. We are not really going out for a date. And at 4 in the afternoon, why she puts up so much make up just for a ordinary fu*k session. Well when I asked that, she replied that she is just coming from the Playboy Channel studio. There is a Miss Playboy-Peru Contest going on and she is one of the contestants. They initially started with 30 girls. In today’s episode, they came down to 20 girls. She is still in the running. The Miss Playboy-Peru will take part in the world event next year in the USA. She pointed to her Playboy lapel pin and let me take several of her pictures. However, at this point, I knew, I am in for a seriously lousy fu*k.

She asked how much time I want her for. I said for an hour. She asked for the money. I gave her 250 Soles (Knowingly, I did not negotiate for payment after, I just needed a fu*k). She could not believe it. She said her current rate is 150 USD per hour. I asked her to check with her service. When she found out about the deal I made, she could not back out of it anymore. She said to give her 300 Soles and nothing for taxi. I gave her the money. She had three cell phones which were constantly ringing. My only demand was to kill all of them before we start the bedroom Olympics.

She delivered everything, generous DFK, BBBJ, DATY, but just as a business person. There was absolutely no passion. This Playboy thing has got to her head. She has a gorgeous body that I must admit. There were lots of fake moans and I completed my predictable lousy fu*k.

At the end of the session, she became a normal girl. She started DFK. Then took out a pen and wrote her personal cell number. I asked why she is giving her number. I am not willing to throw away another $100. She said “para hablar”. I said honey I will never enjoy talking to you, unless you slow down a lot. She gave me a lovely kiss and said goodbye, right at 5 PM.

Two positive things came out of it. First, she was very punctual. I love it. Secondly, she smells really good. Even after she left, I could sensed her smell for more than half an hour.

The day was not a total loss. After she left, I visited the Atlantic City Casino. I had a generous winning night followed by a memorable first date with a regular very educated Peruvian girl.

Bandy

Glad to see guys branching out and experiencing some of Lima's best kept secrets!

[QUOTE=Macmasher]Since I've visited both, for slightly less than a week each (within the last 18 months), I'll weigh in here.

LIMA
Pro's - more cosmopolitan, easier to pick up non-pros, good escort scene
Cons - more expensive, big enough to be overwhelming at first (assuming one gets out of Miraflores, and it seems many Gringos don't)

QUITO
Pro's - very inexpensive, easy to get around on public transportation, dozens of dirt-cheap chongos for on-premises fun
Cons - I'd say more street crime (overall), non-pro scene would take time to master, escort scene next to none

While 5-6 days is barely enough time to judge ANY destination, I preferred Quito... especially for a budget-minded, middle aged, married monger making his first trip to South America.

Slightly off topic - but I also made it to Medellin this year, and liked it ALMOST as much as Quito.[/QUOTE]

I also favored Quito as it is smaller and easier to get around. Plus you have all those cheap houses with Colombianas ( IMHO the hottest latinas) available. I am surprised that you found more street crime; I thought the opposite but then I was there six years ago and things might have changed.The biggest con would be the food as Peruvian food easily beats any other latin american cuisine.

[QUOTE=Viper Spitz]I'm staying at the Hotel Espana now. Rooms with bathroom are 50 soles. I haven't tried to bring in a girl. They have signs that disallow guests, not sure if enforced for nice quiet looking guests. After 11pm they enforce quiet. I'd say that the area is safe enough for walking in the day/early evening. After that, take a taxi - trips of say 5km are only about 10 soles ($3)[/QUOTE]

Viper, could you give exact location of hotel and by now, have you tried to bring a girl in?

[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]I see the Sole is holding its own against the ailing US economic woes. Yippe!
Ill see all my fellow mongers in Deciembre.

Vaughnyb[/QUOTE]
Not quite sure what you meant by "the Sol holding its own" but it favors mongers from US if the dollar remains strong versus the Sol in the ailing US economy. Saw the dollar drop to 2.45 soles and I am quite glad that it went back up to ~3 soles per dollar.

It is a great time to be in Miraflores! The sun is shining and all bus and combi traffic is prevented from entering Miraflores till Monday. Apec2008 (with the exception of the guy carrying 36 hand granades in his backpack) has brought with it a sense of peace and calm and we can watch the girls walk by Cafe Z with nary a car horn.

The Sultan of Brunei is rumoured to be here looking for his 23rd wife and the girls are lining up in front of the Marriott!

My apologies to "Dead Richard" who was back in town this week to dispel rumours of his untimely demise. One of his drinking buddies tried to "stiff" a Tequila girl and is sporting a knife gash that would make Heath Ledger jealous.

A friend (Suites girl) just got back from a 3 month stint in Antofogasta and managed to squirrel away $10k and is probably the reason the 69 and Emanuelle girls have been heading down that way recently.

Living in a country with this many beautiful available women and watching the rest of the world melt down gives one a quiet satisfaction in the "utter brilliance" of God's plan for us!
suerte all,
LB

I remember living in LA when everyone was warned about all the chaos that was supposed to occur during the 84 (geez am I that old?) Olympics. Turned out to be the quietest time ever with hardly any traffic, pedestrian or car, and no problems. There was even silence. That is how Lima, or at least Miraflores is, right now. Nice and mellow, which are words I´ve never heard used to describe Lima or any part of it before. It´s great.

But LB, the only people I saw "lining up" outside the Marriott were the riot police protecting Bushie and whoever else, and there were hundreds of them. Had to take a long walk detour just to get to Larcomar.

And for those ignorant among us, wtf is Antofogasta?

[QUOTE=Doc Bill]And for those ignorant among us, wtf is Antofogasta?[/QUOTE]

Chill or Chili.... :)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antofagasta[/url]