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Leeuwen. Last summer in Lodz I had one model like girl for 100 zl. Agnieszka from sexatlas. Pl. I found out she was pretty from the polish forum site garsoniera. There you have report of almost every girl and if you understand some little polish you can get an idea of the preformance of girls, their looks and apartments. But it can be very hard when your polish is limited like mine is. It can take time. Its hard to get the password for that site if I remember since you have to email the owner and so on. Earlier same day I met that girl, I had visited another girl in an apartment and she was ugly as hell and she also charged 100 zl and looked totally different than on sexatlas. That girl was not reported on garsoniera or at least I didn't found her in there and it shows that you can trust what the local polish mongers are exchanging on their own site. Much information there! Offcourse I left the apartment, I didn't even went inside. Actually she was more ugly than that girl Bois gave a link too)) that says alot haha. And offcourse it was a strange feeling going from so ugly to sooooooooooo pretty for same price. Well cities like lodz are definetely at least 50 zloty cheaper than warsaw. I can recommed kamilla as well from sexatlas, which I met also in lodz. She is a 8, 5 on my scale and I think she charged me 150. I doubt she is on sexatlas still but she is the one I reported on before. Otherwise I have met many normal student girls and helped them with their studies sometimes through a 100 zloty bill. Well not all were model like but 1 or 2 were there very very close and make my world rock. I tipped them 100 sometimes 200 and one even got 400 and usually I invited all girls to a meal at a restaurant. Well maybe it helps alot I'm so young and that I'm the best lier in the world. But you can get anything in poland for 100 zloty. I have to go back soon

Bakero

[QUOTE=Almostfinished]In in for it.[/QUOTE]

I have booked the main chamber of the Stalinesque type townhall to hold the increasing numbers of mongers in town that week.......bring plenty of energy and enthusiasm.....plus your best Polish phrases..such as...

" Sorry, I don't think I can get it all in"

and

" I can only cum 3 times in an hour, is that ok?"

or


" I know....I get marriage proposals all the time".....as you zip up your pants.


Bois ( Official Monger Convenor, Warsaw, 2007)

[QUOTE=Bakero11]Well maybe it helps alot I'm so young and that I'm the best lier in the world. But you can get anything in poland for 100 zloty. I have to go back soon[/QUOTE]Please, don't take it personally, but sometimes when I read reports from Warsaw scene, I get impression some overly entusiastic authors are... ehmm promotors for the girls. This is why:

1) Attractive girls hang around either with local wealthy Polish businessmen, or are married to better off foreign guys. What makes you think a model like girl would give BJ to a monger for 100zl when prostitutes are 200 zl an hour (bullshit, actually one shot)?

2) Seeing is believing, and from experience (sexatlas, odloty) I haven't even come close to either 100zl or a particulary attractive girl. Best shots so far have been freebees. Yes, I'm such a charming guy, haha. But honestly, I could pick up girls from clubs back home too, so...

3) How on Earth do you read a Polish mongering forum knowing "some little polish"? Do YOU speak Polski?

[QUOTE=Bakero11]There you have report of almost every girl and if you understand some little polish you can get an idea of the preformance of girls, their looks and apartments. But it can be very hard when your polish is limited like mine is.[/QUOTE]Great, then please tell more about this garsoniera site and phone numbers where I "can get anything in poland for 100 zloty".
[QUOTE=Bakero11]Its hard to get the password for that site if I remember since you have to email the owner and so on.[/QUOTE]And you have figured all this out with "some little polish"?

You don't seem not to be a nice guy. Promoting girls? Are you crazy? If I were promoting them I would give you their numbers, not stating that they are no longer on sexatlas. I didn't give any specific girl number cause my experience is over a year old. What the hell is wrong with you. Polish site is garsoniera. Pl. Long time since I have been there. Here is the link:

[url]http://www.garsoniera.com.pl/forum/[/url]

I believe bois has mentioned it on the site here earlier too so read the posts! And yes ja razumiem malo malo polski. I learned some from girls some from [url]www.poltran.com[/url] and some from my english polish dictionary. I can the most important phrases to communicate with a girl. On garsoniera if you don't understand someting just copy it and send it into poltran.com and you will be able to FIGURE it out! Also when they refer as sex 9 anal no apartmenty 6. I guess even a Chinese guy can figure something out from there. Offcourse the text is impossible to read with little polski but you can get the idea if it is positive or negative description.

You have to invest time in poland and you will get results. Don't expect just call a number and bingo you have the time of your life. And no not all polish beauties are married to rich although many are abroad especially to england. Believe me there are many with no money for their studies. But this kind of mongering requires skills. Not just dialing a number.

Bakero

My password still works for that site. Great. Here is an example of one of reports fromn lokal polish sexhunters. Leeuwen if you can't figure something of this out with a online dictionary and a little common sense I don't know what it will take to you to succeed:

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There are thousands of messages in there, in warsaw alone 3, 800. Its a great site to complement along with isg here. Cheers

Bakero

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Leeuwen,

I know its hard to grasp the info/attitude of Bakero...but there is a degree of truth in what he says, I also have joined the Polish board and there is more than enuf info about dozens of girls listed in the various posts.

Firstly in point one...a good looking guy with the gift of the gab and confident......has a far better chance of pulling a pretty girl anywhere..whether or not his lingo is good....girls are increasingly turned on by what they see and not afraid to come over with the goods!!!

Secondly...we all know the pics are dodgy, not the girls you get to see, but on the Polish board ( do join..the admin speaks English and seems friendly enuf to let me join etc)!!!) they also say if its the girl in the advert or not...and some girls actually have a star rating!!

Finally, use one of the online translators...such as ....

[url]http://www.poltran.com/pl[/url].

far from perfect but gives you a reasonable idea..try it...!

Bakero may have exaggerated a little......:)...but hes an experienced Polonophile......whose opinion and enthusiasm, should be given credence...IMHO.

Polonophile? Hahaha, yes that was a good one and indeed true. I love Poland. LOL. Well I'm much younger than you guys. But if I only had money and some time to go to LOPA I would have alot to contribute to this board. But my time will come, thats sure. I have a great career in front of me haha.

Well maybe I exagarated a little, but it is anyway true. Lets say its not 100 zl but 150 or 200 zl in warsaw. I just happened to be happy to experience at 100 zl and on the same day. You can have it all in LOPA. From best experience to the worse of your life. I just read the report of gapingmaster if I remember it was him and he had time of his life with one random call. And so many guys with so bad experiences.

Leeuwen, don't take it personally either but I think you are the guy that wants a phone number, call it and expect the time of you life for very few zloty as possible. Its simply not like that although you can be lucky like gapingmaster. You can't open sexatlas and than just get a call and be sure of success. In this way you are simply not determining your destiny, its totally random what you will get. The 2 huge problems with poland are that girls don't show their face and that they are not even real many of them. And 2. Photos are impossible to take in a session as is crossing the border to north korea. It makes it harder for us to compare our experience

In my opinion both problems can be partially solved. The first by doing alot of research before you visit a girl. Look alot on isg read alll the reports. If you find girls with good reports try contact them. If trying a new girl:

1. Go on garsoniera. Pl and find aproximately 10 or more positive reports from the local polish men.

2. Find the girls on odloty or sexatlas.

3. Call them and if necessary many times a day if you can't get to them. Or try do it the days before you leave your country. Say Hi I will be in warsaw tommorow, reserve a time for me. I know it can be hard but try many times and don't give up. Those girls are popular and have many interested polish men in them. Due to garsoniera offcourse

4. When you get the girl does she sounds nice in the phone? Sometimes you can tell a good sex experience from bad just by the way she speaks to you.

5. Get the adress or give your mobile phone to a taxi driver if you are in warsaw. He will find the adress for you.

6. If she smiles to you when you get in and you feel the chemistry is there. Everything will be great!

7. After the good session repeat it take an hour more

8. Come again another day, my 3 experiences with Kamilla proved the rule third time better than second time better than first time. As more you know the girl as better will it get and more she will allow you to do. On the first date the girl believes that you are a guy that she will fuck once and only once and only for a half or one hour. Offcourse her interest will be lower! Well after you come back she will take care better of you knowing she will get you to know. Thats why you never tell them you are there only few days. Say to them you will live there for 6 months. Be a lier. It helps, trust me. Tell her everything you feel will help you to get better experience

9. TRY SPEAK POLISH. Every girl I was with a tried to speak in polski and they loved it even though I sucked haha. It is cute for them. I had a dictionary with me and sometimes after the session I used that and looked in. Haha couldn't rely on poltran.com than

10. Be a gentlemen between the sessions. When you come to the girl second or third time give her something. I gave Kamilla Merci chocolate when she visited me in my apartment and it brought a smile on her face. Also try make them laugh. The athmosphere gets better.

11. Please go visit your girl early in the day. Costumer one gets better fuck than number two than number three than number. 7 or how much they do it a day? There are probably some scary numbers out there

And if you really want one RANDOM girl that is not garsoniera or isg approved girl. Take your chance and call one of the new girls on sexatlas or odloty. Recently added that day. Each day there are few new. They are new in business and full of energy maybe. Havent tried that self but thought is good idea.

Photo problem. I don't know why polish girls hate camera so much. I would like know the answer. I don't understand why you don't use other photos represent the girls you meet in warsaw. Lets say stuntgirls. For example all the girls I met were totally camera shy. Execept few of the non pro girls that I never would post pictures of on internet. But why not go in internet on one of sexsites and find a photo of a girl who is not that girl you fucked BUT looks very very very similar to her. A stuntgirl in that way you could feel how the real girl look like and you see if a 7 on this guys scale is the same as on yours.

I hope to soon go back again,

Bakero

[blue]Hi Guys,

I would sincerely appreciate it if you [u]would[/u] [u]not[/u] use my forum to exchange instructions and advice for using my competitor's forums.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Guys!

It seems that a reasonable number of forum members will be in WAW between November 19th an 24th?

I believe it´s a good idea to have an overview?

Here we go:

- Bois
- Hurenmaul
- HM´s Friend # 1
- HM´s Friend # 2

Whoe else?!

HM

I couldn't imagine that you consider a small polish Forum being a real competitor? ! Anyway: it's your forum and it's completely up to you to set the rules!

Greetings from Germany:.))

Hurenmaul

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Hi Hurenmaul,

Every forum on the internet is my competitor.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Bakero11]Leeuwen, don't take it personally either but I think you are the guy that wants a phone number, call it and expect the time of you life for very few zloty as possible. [/QUOTE]
My expectations are moderate and I'm not bitching about paying few euros above local going rate. Your statement "100zl! for a model like" girl cought my interest, but I consider it clarified.

Frankly, one must ask himself whether all hassle with unreliable info from sexatlas and odloty really is worth it. I feel I have to let it out, despite some of you may think I'm complaining - BUT- given conditions

- 1 hour is 200zl (55 euro) (for one shot)
- few girls speak comprehensible English
- your calls get routinely ignored or hung up on
- girls' faces generally nothing to write home about
- sexatlas and odloty cover faces (understandable to a degree, but talking of buying a pig in a poke)
- you may find a girl you like on Xth attempt, after hundreds or thousands of spent zlotys

Question arises: Why would one take a flight to Warsaw when you can pick a nearby German FKK club and pay 50 euro for half an hour of service with a quality girl? (www dot fkktour dot com)
Or like in my case, visit a "private house" (privehuizen dot org, for complete list) in the Netherlands. Sure, an hour of FS is going to cost you little more than in Warsaw, but putting into account expenses such as flight, hotel and wasted time calling girls from odloty, you definitely get far better deal.

I have been to gritty run-down buildings in Warsaw looking for flats advertised in leaflets (found outside clubs) and realized this simply wasn't worth it. Why fucking a girl in a dull post communist two bedroom flat, when you can do her sister on a chesterfield sofa in the Netherlands?


[QUOTE=Bakero11]You can't open sexatlas and than just get a call and be sure of success. In this way you are simply not determining your destiny, its totally random what you will get.[/QUOTE]
Worse - I have called plently of girls with stars in their profile, and if a handsome businessman in his early thirties must go though X fake profiles and experience all the hassle, then why not just try pick up a freebee at a café (Chmielna street or Zurawia, for instance)?

[QUOTE=Hurenmaul]Guys!

It seems that a reasonable number of forum members will be in WAW between November 19th an 24th?

I believe it´s a good idea to have an overview?

Here we go:

- Bois
- Hurenmaul
- HM´s Friend # 1
- HM´s Friend # 2

Whoe else?!

HM[/QUOTE]

I think Almostfinished said he's in......gee...did Json smack our punting botties or what???

How is the "Hurenmaul Book of Varsovian Punting" coming on...?...:)

Leeuwen,

I totally agree with you on all that. If you are businessman, for you time is actually money and in Poland there is alot of wasted time for you and therefore money. With all the research you have to do, calling and so on, than those places you mentioned in germany are maybe faster and in the end cheaper. I'm too scared about the apartments in poland. Actually next time I go I will try to look at the apartment rate almost as much as the girl rate. The one time I tried an incall to my apartment a mafia guy was following the girl I called as a kind if security and waited for her outside in his car. Thats not nice either.

Hi Bois!

Don't expect too much! It's gonna be just a collection with approx. 100 "entries" in it representing my personal "flavour".

As one monger already said: it's a numbers game?

I'm currently on # 87. Expect another "lead time" of 5-6 days. You're no. 1 on my distribution list.

HM

- Bois
- Hurenmaul
- HM´s Friend # 1
- HM´s Friend # 2
- Almostfinished

Who dares to ask Jackson for "sponsorship" :-)))

HM

[QUOTE=Bbois77]I think Almostfinished said he's in......gee...did Json smack our punting botties or what???

How is the "Hurenmaul Book of Varsovian Punting" coming on...?...:)[/QUOTE]