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Timelines,What was the approximate boy-to-girl ratio at those places (for example: Le Grand Blue)? I'm thinking of giving it a try..SM

I recently called Asian Mystique and met one of their new girls. I have to agree with the other guys who posted. I had such a good time I forgot it was a service. Kudos to "Dave" at AM!

After reading Timelines report, I surfed around the sites he listed and eventually found this: http://www.interq.or.jp/hot/dream/This place seems very interesting. Does anybody know anything about this place?

Stoops,I've been to that place a few times... basically, you go in there, and as part of the sign-up process they have you fill in a report with info about yourself, what kind of woman you're after, as well as a little blurb introducing yourself... they also attach your picture to it. Then they send you to small cubicle where you sit around and wait. Meanwhile your report gets posted up on a board, and any chick on premises that reads your report and likes it can come over to your cubicle and hang out with you. Presumably what goes on after that is up to you.I went there a total of 5 or 6 times, stuck around for a total of 10 hours, maybe? Met several chicks, some of them quite sexy, but it never got any further than that, nor did I manage to convince them to head on outside the premises for some extracurricular activities. The things is, the girls that go there receive enticements from the owners, such as gifts etc... and basically I think that is why they go there, and not really to get laid. It's a bit of a fishy incentive system they've set up there.They whole setup is sexually suggestive, but I am not so sure that a whole lot goes on in there... It's an opportunity to chat with a few different chicks every time you go there (provided that there are enough of them to go around, which is not always the case), but honestly I am not sure how feasible it is to go beyond that; it almost ends up being like going to a hostess bar, with amateurs doing the hostessing. By the way, just about every chick I met there did not speak any English, so be ready to bust out some Japanese if you do choose to sign up to this gig.In short, if I were you I would give this place a pass... the places Timelines describes are clearly much more geared for sex and such, whereas Dream sells itself as such but does not deliver. to me they sound a lot more interesting.If you do decide to go, let us know how it turns out. Cheers,Henry

In answer to some questions regarding HB'sGuy to Girl ratio: Depends on the place & time. Everytime has been different. Generally though there are more guys than girls. Many of the girls do come with partners so it can end up 2 guys to 1 girl. But most HBs single women get in for free. So a few times it's almost been like a harem. I've talked to quite a few women there & for many it's just a part of their life now. After a stressed day at work, they pop in for a couple drinks & if they find someone they fancy, they'll play & catch the last train home. Recommended Bar: Le Grand Blue is my favorite. Purety is nice & the Master there I think tries to guarantee that everyone has a good time.Stage Fright: It has happended to me quite a few times & I have been very embarassed. Not only are you dissapointing the girl, but all the people who are wanting to see a good "show". Once I could not get it up & this sweet, gorgeous girl told me to do her "nama" (raw) & that helped. But advise not to drink too much or take the blue pill for extra precaution.Dream Report by Stoops (http://www.interq.or.jp/hot/dream/):Highly unrecommended. Very few if any women there. No Sex allowed on the premises, just a place to meet girls (many who are actually working girls & who will then ask for 30-50000 to be taken to a Hotel. You pay 10000 yen entry & then 4000 an hour to leave very frustrated.Japanese Speaking ability: Of course the more you speak the better, but then again, sometimes it's just a free for all & a just a nod of the head or a wink will do. Grand Blue has these Friday Night dance where they turn off the lights & play fast music & the girls dancing on the floor want anyone & everyone.Good luck & anyone who does get a chance to go, woulld love to see your report here.

L/SI went to L/S today about 10:00 am when they open. I was suprised that I was greeted and told to come in. I waited about 10 minutes, then the Doorman told me in his nicest Japanese that they do service black-americans but that none of the girls that do are currently working. I thanked him and told him I would come back at a later time and date. If you are looking to go there they do have some pretty women working their. All I would say that they are gaijin friendly. I will have to try another time. So I headed over ot Hinomaru, because I had never been there before, and try my luck. I got there about 11:30 and greeted by the mamasan there. I did not have the discount coupon so it cost me 10,000 to chose a girl. She hinted at girl no 23, and since it was my first time I said ok. The place did not look busy, and I had to wait almost 30 minutes before she arrived. To my suprise I got Kaori, I guess every one does. We talked a litle bit and she down down to business, after about 30 seconds of BBBJ she capped me and provided FS, that I was really suprised about. I had not hinted FS in any way. FS in front of that big NOSEX sign. After she cleaned me up, but I was in a hurry and had to go. She gave me her card and a discount ticket for next time. over all it was a nice experience.

On Sunday gave YuuYuu a call, but after telling me they have 4 girls, he then asked to see if I was foreign, and that narrowed it down to only one.Calling L-S looked more promising, as they hard 11 working, so I thought I'd give this lastest WSG stop I go.Finind L-S is a challenge from the map they provide, as there is no sign for them on the building (it is a typical office building actually). But there is a large ESP sign and just go in the door below it and up to the 5th floor (room 5A).The reception was a tiny room, with 6 guys and only 4 seats. They were gaijin-friendly, but said only 2 girls would be willing to service a white guy like me (they showed me the 2 photos and let me pick without charge, which was nice). They charged 17,000 (no member fee) for 60 minutes. No mat play was offered, since only certain girls are trained in it.Yui is a petite, cute girl with a nice face and good personality, but a bit rundown in my book-her body was a bit soft, like she spends all day in bed, but since she only weighs about 46kg we can't say it was fat. Her phots below suggests a hot body, but I guess I like them a little more athletic. I also would say she's closer to 28 than 22.She complained how she'd been there since the night before and they were to busy etc...She really appreciated me massaging her and talking to her, and said she hated guys who were silent (too scary).She washed me, then we played (BBBJ, 69, no DFK) for about 40 minutes, then another shower and done at the 55 min mark. After the first shot she thought that would be it, but a little persuation got her got her to give me a second round.All-in-all, I would say L-S is a decent option, but perhaps going on a weekday during the day would result in a less harried experience. The L-S girls are certainly pretty, but us gaijin can't expect to have our pick of most of them unfortunately. Yui also said she only serviced white gaijin, as she was scared of blacks (sorry rodmanj).I did see another side of the industry. Up until now all the girls have seemed pretty happy to do their work, but this one seemed tired. She was from northern Japan and in Tokyo to earn and save money, but since she slept at L-S and would work 12 hour shifts, it sometimes got to her. On the other hand there were times without customers for hours. But of course she is free to quit anytime and does go back home on visits, so I didn't feel guilty.

Timeline's report was extremely well done and he deserves a bit pat on the back. The PARTY scene is one I have just begun to discover on the net (I haven't been to one yet though). The fact there are thousands of these listed online in Japan, and a fair number are willing (or even eager) to take foreigners who bring a woman. I know some private working girls have told me they've been to parties with customers-which sounds like an interesting option if you want variety.Of course the fact that you may not have a girl to bring is always likely, but that doesn't rule you out by any means, as his HB report shows.Anyway, I hope he can turn us to more sites in the future!Here is a site which lists about 75 parties nationwide:http://www.ladysnavi.com/cgi-bin/lady.cgi?mode=kt&kt=51_01AND here is a site in Tokyo in English as well (couples only though):http://opera.neolovers.com/indexhome.htm (the only real drawback is for older hobbiests; a 48 year old pays 16,000, a 49 year old pays 69,000!)

Some people have asked for other gaijin friendly establishments. This place has been around but not recently mentioned on WSG.http://www.madonna.gr.jp/no/english/roppongitop/ropoongitop.htmlCheck this out. They have a sister shop in Meguro with better variety. You can use your membership card at all locations.I am half Japanese and speak Japanese very well. I can get into most places without a problem. I havn`t had any gaijin issues. I prefer HITOZUMA Places. They tend to be friendlier and after several meetings FS is added to the menu.Happy hunting.

Thought I would add a few thoughts to some of the subjects that have been popping up lately. Asianmystique - I have also had a chance to meet up with Yukie. While I agree with what has been written about her to date concerning her ability to provide excellent service, I am not so enamoured with her physically. She has large breasts augmented by implants, and she is probably in her late 30's. Make no mistake, she does a great job making sure you have a great time and for that she is well worth the price of admission.Madonna Group - I have tried the one in Yoyogi once and met up with Hikaru. She has got the most increadible body and has no problem with Gaijin. But unlike Yukie from Asianmystique, she does not go out of her way to give her clients an unforgettable experience. I have also tried the shop in Meguro. They have a huge list of ladies, but a limited number who are willing to service Gaijins. The best looking girls (IMO) are not on that list, but the ones who will are still pretty decent looking.Adult Parties - Met up with Sailing a number of weeks back and went to a party. Not a lot of ladies that night, but even then it was a fun experience. I will leave it up to Sailing to explain the system if you want to ask him directly, but suffice it to say that he has it pretty good with his contacts in this realm.

I've only been to Tokyo once, but was able to connect via clubboo.com thanks to you fine folks. Should I get back again, I'll like go with outcall once more. Clubboo's Fujiko was a stunner and the service was outstanding (BBJCIM). 20K / 45 min - expensive, but when you are only in town one night and want the experience.I've noted Asian Mystique, Panther Claw and Avenue/Tokyo-escort.comAny others (preferably with websites)?

Neo Fan,Club Boo usually starts at 30k. I think you got the trial course. TJ

I was wondering about the SW scene in Tokyo, if it was possible/worth pursuing. Last time I was there I saw lots of girls that definitely looked like SWs. I started talking to one but her Japanese was too quick. Another grabbed her handbag like I was going to steal it! Obviously a bad sign so I bailed on that one too. With hookers and love hotels all over it would seem quite possible though. I had a girl come up to me, touch my arm and say "sekkshu?" I didn't know how illegal that was or what would happen if I went with her and didn't want any trouble on my trip so I declined but she was cute! Any ideas what's up with that? After reading this board I'm guessing it was legit and I would have been fine. I was a little paranoid because the touts were really aggressive in Kabukicho and I didn't trust them. I figured they'd just take me to some high pressure strip club. As a foreigner with minimal Japanese I didn't want to wind up stuck anywhere with a big bill and/or any intimidation.A couple of girls approached me so I did get massages with them. First 80,000, she was really friendly, then I tried bargaining next time with a different girl for 40,000 which seemed to really be pushing it and she wasn't too happy (first she said 40,000 on the street, then inside she explained that was for an unhappy ending. I went to leave and she said okay for 40,000). Anyway my main question is about SWs. Any info is appreciated and thanks for everything on the board so far. I look forward to contributing more.

Healthy, I assume she was trying to say "sex show" in English but it sounded like sekkshu. If it was a sex show my guess is its all legal.Personally I try to avoid any contact with people on the street (except SWs) but I wondered what the the story is with drink touts, the African guys. Like you I always assumed they took you to a club to drink and then handed you an astronomical bill for drinks and maybe conversation with a girl. Can anyone confirm if these guys take you to ripoff clubs or what the deal is?

Healthy,The girl on the street might have been saying "sex" (seksu) or "sexual", as in sexual massage.As for your other comments, did you really mean 80,000 Yen and 40,000 Yen?? Even 40,000 is way, way too high for a massage, even with FS included. Maybe you mean 8,000 or 4,000?V.