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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1994018]
And what happens if a guy and a girl don't agree on the time spent together, since no one at the staff checks the time of entrance in the room?[/QUOTE]You go to the reception and let them decide. They will check the tapes from the hidden video cameras in the rooms and come to a decision.
HB.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1993908]You can bargain everything but first most of the girls will refuse less than 100/ hour and second it will impact the service. The girls are not machines, when they feel no stress they will give you more it is as easy as that.[/QUOTE]Well said.
I sometimes feel like a pushover compared to a lot of the tales of exemplary service for next to nothing that I hear here, but I am not movie-star good looking, nor am I amazingly charming, nor am I just in search of a warm hole to bury my bone in regardless of attitude so I've found the hour to generally be a better experience than trying to get as much as I can for 50 E. I actually feel a little sorry for the girls when I see pack of men from a notoriously bargain-hunting culture in the club.
I pick carefully though, so as not to let 100 E go to waste. I do half-hours, but I don't expect everything.
Having spent hours in FKKs just watching how girls operate, most guys aren't getting the Penthouse Forum-type experiences some people recount. Most guys are just happy to be with a pretty girl who'll give them BJ and sex and are out in 20 minutes. But maybe that's just my experience.
Basically, I agree, the girls are selling their bodies, but they're not machines. A lot of guys who see WGs don't have great social skills, and they forget this, they think it's like negotiating for a car.
That said, I think asking for a discounted rate for three or four hours is ok. But I think I'the only do that with a girl that I knew, and I think the girl would probably think the same.
If you look at it from the girl's perspective, of course it's worth making a little less if you like the guy, it's less stressful than seeing a bunch of different guys in the same time.
But if a girl doesn't know the guy, and he turns out to be a dud, spending multiple hours with him might be *more* stressful than seeing different guys in the same amount of time. Especially when you might get 3 or 4 50 E "dates" from quick-finishers in an hour.
[QUOTE=MikeodAmerika;1993713]
On average what does a girl normally make in a night?
[/QUOTE]It really depends on the night, and the girl. When I first started doing this hobby, I wondered about it too. There have been discussions on boards, extrapolations from what girls tell me and what I see, that Channel 4 video and the discussions therein that I've used to answer this question for myself.
I don't remember how I came to the number, but I've generally categorized their earnings as being along the line of small-time professionals, $100 K-$200 K US a year, but for a much shorter duration, as little as 1-2 years. It's not a gold mine, but for someone young and uneducated, it's a fair bit of money.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1993977]BTW some girl use pussy rubbing to provoke AO with $$$ extra.[/QUOTE]Not always but yes usually if a girl is willing to bare pussy rubbing she is also willing to do AO. Over a year ago I asked a top Sharks girl for AO but she offered bare pussy rub instead at no additional cost. Although I did book her for 5 hours, not sure if that was a factor or not. She bare rubbed my as long as I wanted and I did manage to get my tip in there for a little bit, but no full AO.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;1994067]I don't remember how I came to the number, but I've generally categorized their earnings as being along the line of small-time professionals, $100 K-$200 K US a year, but for a much shorter duration, as little as 1-2 years. It's not a gold mine, but for someone young and uneducated, it's a fair bit of money.[/QUOTE]Some girls if not majority of them must share their income with the pimps.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1994057]You go to the reception and let them decide. They will check the tapes from the hidden video cameras in the rooms and come to a decision.
HB.[/QUOTE]Something's been lost in translation I hope? Surely they're not taping what goes on inside the rooms?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1994030]Just ask for condom an do normal room.[/QUOTE]Oh, is it not advisable to let it go on? Extreme noob here, have only been to FKKs 5 times all up and in all those sessions only once did AO happen, did not request for it. I was quite happy with that however and the girl didn't charge anything extra for it.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1994040]I was merely using her as an example of an older working lady. I've specifically had one girl say she didn't want to become Sylvania, but rather wanted to move back to Romania and open a business.
I've stated many times that I have a ton of respect for her work ethic, she's one of the hardest working ladies I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]Ya I wouldn't want to be her either! I did AO with her and I know lots of other girls at Sharks do AO. $150.00 was her price. Sad, but true!
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1994123]Not always but yes usually if a girl is willing to bare pussy rubbing she is also willing to do AO. [/QUOTE]Can't agree with that.
HB.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1994040]I was merely using her as an example of an older working lady. I've specifically had one girl say she didn't want to become Sylvania, but rather wanted to move back to Romania and open a business.
I've stated many times that I have a ton of respect for her work ethic, she's one of the hardest working ladies I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]I understand. Sylvania is working at Oase for those who wish to see her. Say Ciao.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1993972]I wouldn't recommend to ask around about AO at Sharks. You can be blacklisted. Not because girls follow the rules so strictly. Just imagine this. You ask girls about AO and most of them refuse. Next time you approach the same girl for the normal covered session. But other girls know that you are looking for AO. So girls will worry about her reputation because other might think that she agreed for AO.[/QUOTE]I understand.
Be discrete and use referrals.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1994227]I understand. Sylvania is working at Oase for those who wish to see her. Say Ciao.[/QUOTE]Silvana.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1994254]Silvana.
HB.[/QUOTE]Unless it was a banshee queen reference. But would that be rude of me to think?
He didnt mention the experienced sharks girl from italy. Sylvana(s) is the forsaken mistress... lol
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1994226]Can't agree with that.
HB.[/QUOTE]You probably have a bigger sample size then. I definitely don't ask every girl if she does AO or bare pussy rub. Only on repeats do I ask, but I have not done AO in FKK yet. Either I change my mind last second or the girl I want doesn't offer it. I like the asking more than the actual act LOL.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1994227]Sylvania is working at Oase for those who wish to see her.[/QUOTE]An other example for the widespread rumor that Mauro let only young and beautiful girls in. LOL.
If you book a 4 hour session with a girl is it assumed that it will all be spent in the room or do guys schedule those long sessions and spend time at the bar or jacuzzi or couches with the girl?
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;1994064]Well said.
I sometimes feel like a pushover compared to a lot of the tales of exemplary service for next to nothing that I hear here, but I am not movie-star good looking, nor am I amazingly charming, nor am I just in search of a warm hole to bury my bone in regardless of attitude so I've found the hour to generally be a better experience than trying to get as much as I can for 50 E. I actually feel a little sorry for the girls when I see pack of men from a notoriously bargain-hunting culture in the club.
I pick carefully though, so as not to let 100 E go to waste. I do half-hours, but I don't expect everything.
Having spent hours in FKKs just watching how girls operate, most guys aren't getting the Penthouse Forum-type experiences some people recount. Most guys are just happy to be with a pretty girl who'll give them BJ and sex and are out in 20 minutes. But maybe that's just my experience.
Basically, I agree, the girls are selling their bodies, but they're not machines. A lot of guys who see WGs don't have great social skills, and they forget this, they think it's like negotiating for a car.
That said, I think asking for a discounted rate for three or four hours is ok. But I think I'the only do that with a girl that I knew, and I think the girl would probably think the same.
If you look at it from the girl's perspective, of course it's worth making a little less if you like the guy, it's less stressful than seeing a bunch of different guys in the same time.
But if a girl doesn't know the guy, and he turns out to be a dud, spending multiple hours with him might be *more* stressful than seeing different guys in the same amount of time. Especially when you might get 3 or 4 50 E "dates" from quick-finishers in an hour.[/QUOTE]