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[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2825674]Standard fee for girls is 70430, but I found it hard to get below 140430 [/QUOTE]In town with indies or bordello, 140 can easily be 45 min - 1 hour with better looking girl. Another 25 for a good meal. So 165 for a session + meal (swimming free at lakes or 5. 50 at pool) vs A entrance and 30 min for 230!
Yes of course different atmosphere, and you can spread entrance over 3-5 sessions. But still.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2825967]In town with indies or bordello, 140 can easily be 45 min - 1 hour with better looking girl. Another 25 for a good meal. So 165 for a session + meal (swimming free at lakes or 5. 50 at pool) vs A entrance and 30 min for 230!
Yes of course different atmosphere, and you can spread entrance over 3-5 sessions. But still.[/QUOTE]Hey man! Thanks. Are the prices listed on sites such as Paris No. 5 the actual price, or just the starting point?
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2825967]In town with indies or bordello, 140 can easily be 45 min - 1 hour with better looking girl. Another 25 for a good meal. So 165 for a session + meal (swimming free at lakes or 5. 50 at pool) vs A entrance and 30 min for 230!
Yes of course different atmosphere, and you can spread entrance over 3-5 sessions. But still.[/QUOTE]For me the club atmosphere is worth a lot. Being able to chill poolside with naked / half naked beauties walking around is part of the experience, and for me worth the 90€ entry.
In all honesty, my sessions ended at 140€ as I opted for owo (20) and b2 b (50) which I enjoyed. Point was that there was some amount of upselling when at first asking just for bade 70430. I could have stood my ground, but not sure I'd be happier. Though I've had good 70430 sessions at Artemis in the past.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2825987]Hey man! Thanks. Are the prices listed on sites such as Paris No. 5 the actual price, or just the starting point?[/QUOTE]This belongs in Berlin thread not here.
Continue there.
Hello,
I never visited Artemis. I have a question about girl's quality at Artemis in 2023. (Not service quality or character or work ethics, but looks and appearance).
Many reviews suggest the followings. Is this true?
Compared to Sharks / Samya:
- Overall quality is similar, but there is no stunner.
- More older girls ( 30) and fewer (23) girls.
- More diversity. More Non-Romanian girls and even some German girls.
- Pole dancing girl is pretty, but she is a hired dancer and you cannot take her to the room.
Is this correct? Of course it's somewhat subjective question, but your opinion helps.
(I am always surprised by that so many people care about price and service, but not talk about looks much, which is much more important for me).
Thanks!
[QUOTE=David1266;2826568]I am always surprised by that so many people care about price and service, but not talk about looks much, which is much more important for me.[/QUOTE]I haven't visited Artemis in a while, but I think your summary fits with what I have read here over the past couple of years.
As an experienced punter, looking back at previous encounters I tend to forget the looks of a girl I have been with, but remember the sex acts and how they made me feel. I remember an encounter with a gorgeous Italian girl who had good deepthroat skills but a pretty bad attitude and no connection more with a sense of frustration and irritation than positive feelings. I remember encounters with less attractive girls who I had great chemistry with or who gave good service with much more fondness. I treasure those encounters.
One encounter with a girl who was really compatible with myself in terms of French kissing style and who I interacted with easily and with very little sense that the encounter was a transaction of service in exchange for money (I. E. Something perhaps best described as a girlfriend experience) is my fondest memory by far. And her looks had very little to do with it. She was attractive, but not more than an 7 or 7.5 for me personally. I would 100 x rather repeat with her than with any 9-10 girl who had a bad attitude.
I used to select primarily by looks, but I have come to realize that selecting by how you interact and communicate with a girl is a better strategy for me personally. But to each his own. I don't mind spending €100 now and then to shoot my load over the face of a pretty blond 18-20 yo "optifick" with a bad attitude. That kind of experience also has its charm.
[QUOTE=David1266;2826568]Hello,
I never visited Artemis. I have a question about girl's quality at Artemis in 2023. (Not service quality or character or work ethics, but looks and appearance).
Many reviews suggest the followings. Is this true?
Compared to Sharks / Samya:
- Overall quality is similar, but there is no stunner.
- More older girls ( 30) and fewer (23) girls.
- More diversity. More Non-Romanian girls and even some German girls.
- Pole dancing girl is pretty, but she is a hired dancer and you cannot take her to the room.
Is this correct? Of course it's somewhat subjective question, but your opinion helps.
(I am always surprised by that so many people care about price and service, but not talk about looks much, which is much more important for me).
Thanks![/QUOTE]Looks are always subjective imo. My latest visit to Artemis there for sure were 9-10's. Raissa (Ro) for example, never seen such a flawless body, also pretty face. Of course she has enhanced boobs, so if that's not your thing you may differ. Also she's 30+ (bit imo could go for 27-28). Also Miriam (Ro), blonde all natural stunner around 22-23 (I think). Both girls are (very) slim. If you like curves, other girls will be your preference.
If your preference is the slim eastern european girl, you will have bigger selection eg at Sharks (never visited Samya). But there definitely are great looking girls at Artemis.
Don't know about pole dancer girl, never seen anyone professionally dance at the pole.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2826772]Don't know about pole dancer girl, never seen anyone professionally dance at the pole.[/QUOTE]Following to your last report, you left at 8 pm. Poledance starts at 10 pm. You can't take the dancers upstairs in the room, they're professional artists booked by Artemis' management.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2826772]Looks are always subjective imo. My latest visit to Artemis there for sure were 9-10's. Raissa (Ro) for example, never seen such a flawless body, also pretty face. Of course she has enhanced boobs, so if that's not your thing you may differ. Also she's 30+ (bit imo could go for 27-28).[/QUOTE]I wonder if there's any chance at all if this could be the same "Raissa" from Romania who I met a Samya a few years ago. The girls do move around. She was so, so beautiful, and I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. Dark hair, pretty face, white-skinned with perfect body to my liking. I don't remember her tits being enhanced, but of course the girls do get boob jobs as well. Had to take her to the zimmer to fuck! And she was good at the GFE too putting her arms around me and DFKing saying that she loved me! I decided to play along and said I loved her too. I normally prefer the PSE but with a girl like Raissa with her good looks the GFE was on! Afterwards she wanted to know if I would give her my watch. I was like GTFOH! The fucking and "play acting" is over! You didn't think I meant that shit did you? Well, I didn't actually say all that LMAO. I just said, "No"! LOL! As we were getting dressed she said that my dick had "hurt her babies" LOLOLOL! Somebody find out if this "Raissa" at Artemis used to work at Samya will you?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2826923]I wonder if there's any chance at all if this could be the same "Raissa" from Romania who I met a Samya a few years ago. The girls do move around. She was so, so beautiful, and I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. Dark hair, pretty face, white-skinned with perfect body to my liking. I don't remember her tits being enhanced, but of course the girls do get boob jobs as well. Had to take her to the zimmer to fuck! And she was good at the GFE too putting her arms around me and DFKing saying that she loved me! I decided to play along and said I loved her too. I normally prefer the PSE but with a girl like Raissa with her good looks the GFE was on! Afterwards she wanted to know if I would give her my watch. I was like GTFOH! The fucking and "play acting" is over! You didn't think I meant that shit did you? Well, I didn't actually say all that LMAO. I just said, "No"! LOL! As we were getting dressed she said that my dick had "hurt her babies" LOLOLOL! Somebody find out if this "Raissa" at Artemis used to work at Samya will you?[/QUOTE]I don't know whether the Raissa currently at Artemis was previously at Samya.
I heard from a friend that Raissa used to be at Artemis also pre-pandemic.
In my rooms with her, there was no GFE, but I also didn't ask for it. This Raissa is brunette and very tanned with visible abs. Normal polite chit chat in the room, and her watch was leagues nicer than my casio.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2827003]I heard from a friend that Raissa used to be at Artemis also pre-pandemic.[/QUOTE]AFAIR she's at A since 2016 at least. She herself told me once, she's started working at A in 2013.
[QUOTE=Wikman;2826685]I haven't visited Artemis in a while, but I think your summary fits with what I have read here over the past couple of years.
As an experienced punter, looking back at previous encounters I tend to forget the looks of a girl I have been with, but remember the sex acts and how they made me feel. I remember an encounter with a gorgeous Italian girl who had good deepthroat skills but a pretty bad attitude and no connection more with a sense of frustration and irritation than positive feelings. I remember encounters with less attractive girls who I had great chemistry with or who gave good service with much more fondness. I treasure those encounters.
One encounter with a girl who was really compatible with myself in terms of French kissing style and who I interacted with easily and with very little sense that the encounter was a transaction of service in exchange for money (I. E. Something perhaps best described as a girlfriend experience) is my fondest memory by far. And her looks had very little to do with it. She was attractive, but not more than an 7 or 7.5 for me personally. I would 100 x rather repeat with her than with any 9-10 girl who had a bad attitude.
I used to select primarily by looks, but I have come to realize that selecting by how you interact and communicate with a girl is a better strategy for me personally. But to each his own. I don't mind spending 100 now and then to shoot my load over the face of a pretty blond 18-20 yo "optifick" with a bad attitude. That kind of experience also has its charm.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much. This is all interesting because I am completely opposite. I much prefer a 7=8 girl with "bad" attitude than 5-6 girl with super nice personality (I never seen 9-10 girls for past 2 years). This is because I actually enjoy to develop emotional connection from someone who is not nice to me at first. This is similar to the situation that most Romantic Comedy movies start with bad first encounter, and then they develop chemistry and connection. Also, probably my bar is set low, but I honestly never met awful or bad girls at FKK (so far). Yes, there are some girls who are tired and lazy and want to finish after 10 minutes, but these girls are young and some girls work like 12 hours, so if that's the case, I simply ask "Would you like finish in 15 minutes for half price? So I don't see big difference in personalities, but I do see a huge difference in external attractiveness, so I that's I look for.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2826772]Looks are always subjective imo. My latest visit to Artemis there for sure were 9-10's. Raissa (Ro) for example, never seen such a flawless body, also pretty face. Of course she has enhanced boobs, so if that's not your thing you may differ. Also she's 30+ (bit imo could go for 27-28). Also Miriam (Ro), blonde all natural stunner around 22-23 (I think). Both girls are (very) slim. If you like curves, other girls will be your preference.
If your preference is the slim eastern european girl, you will have bigger selection eg at Sharks (never visited Samya). But there definitely are great looking girls at Artemis.
Don't know about pole dancer girl, never seen anyone professionally dance at the pole.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for your info. I am not interested in fake boobs, but I will look for Miriam then. Thank you!
[QUOTE=David1266;2827317]Thanks very much for your info. I am not interested in fake boobs, but I will look for Miriam then. Thank you![/QUOTE]Hello.
FYI Miriam is one of the worst girl I been in room with at Artemis. She has the look yes, but it was waste of money and time. She changes attitude complitely in room from good to bad.
[QUOTE=Nikolaj;2828281]Hello.
FYI Miriam is one of the worst girl I been in room with at Artemis. She has the look yes, but it was waste of money and time. She changes attitude complitely in room from good to bad.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I have a very high tolerance for bad attitude and service, while low tolerance for appearance, so I am still interested in Miriam "a stunner".