Jakarta

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2175172]Can confirm with everything Smoothy said. Last time I went, there were hardly any girls who were over 30. I went to the club and section where there is a live band and it was fantastic. Maybe somebody can get this impression if one goes to CIS chicks section. But I doubt.[/QUOTE]I am agreeing with you. I doubt there are any girls over 30 in there. If there are, it's a small number. I have been with over 100 girls there and never taken a girl over 25 years old. Most are 19 to 22.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2175172]Can confirm with everything Smoothy said. Last time I went, there were hardly any girls who were over 30. I went to the club and section where there is a live band and it was fantastic. Maybe somebody can get this impression if one goes to CIS chicks section. But I doubt.[/QUOTE]My comments about the age was referring to malioboro. Not positive that you went to malioboro, rather to the live band bar and possibly malio club? Can you confirm that you went to Malioboro and not malio club?

Hope you are correct. Will be back at malioboro again soon and will provide feedback.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2175049]This is probably a silly question. Installed Tinder for the first time using a free account. It searched for girls within the 20 miles radius in and around Jakarta, and I put a few liked swipes. In fact, almost all the girls look respectable, not sure how this whole thing works, and what's next.[/QUOTE]I highly recommend the gold option. You can see who liked you before you have to swipe and get many more options like hiding alot of private stuff.

It's super easy in Jakarta and you will get a gazillion likes. I arrived last Monday and installed it for the first time. Tuesday evening a girl I liked and matched visited me already and she is staying with me until I leave next Tuesday But you can also have many many (free) ONS. Jakarta girls are obsessed with foreigners. Not sure if it's the same for 'older' gentleman but as a younger person I doubt you ever have to go out to meet girls. And I'd say 70% of the one matching are awesome and fun girls. They are different then Filipinos but just as sweet and happy and fun. And way more interesting then the Thai (IMO). Jakarta itself is kinda. Mehh but with the right company (and amazing food) it's still a decent spot for a few days.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2175423]Can you confirm that you went to Malioboro and not malio club?[/QUOTE]The age of the girls at both of those places is young 20's on the average and if there are any at all over 30, I would be surprised.

[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;2175683]I highly recommend the gold option. You can see who liked you before you have to swipe and get many more options like hiding alot of private stuff.

It's super easy in Jakarta and you will get a gazillion likes. I arrived last Monday and installed it for the first time. Tuesday evening a girl I liked and matched visited me already and she is staying with me until I leave next Tuesday But you can also have many many (free) ONS. Jakarta girls are obsessed with foreigners. Not sure if it's the same for 'older' gentleman but as a younger person I doubt you ever have to go out to meet girls. And I'd say 70% of the one matching are awesome and fun girls. They are different then Filipinos but just as sweet and happy and fun. And way more interesting then the Thai (IMO). Jakarta itself is kinda. Mehh but with the right company (and amazing food) it's still a decent spot for a few days.[/QUOTE]I think the observation should be written as Jakarta girls on Tinder are obsessed with Caucasians only. No wonder I have not much luck in response since I look East Asian. LOL. I did got one response but based on initial chat, red flags were thrown and highly likely a scam in the making. I simply said no. Anyway, I am going to just delete my account after this trip.

Reached CGK around midnight on Wednesday, technically Thursday morning by then, and did not even bother to attempt to visit CJ even though it was the ladies night. I was simply too tired for anything else.

Caught up with a few hours of sleep and later that day decided to see how this whole Tinder works. Fair to say, I am a newbie on this one. I learned later that I have to swipe profiles that I like and wait back for the girl to respond in kind before we can chat via the app. At least that is the way how I think it would work for free account. Anyway, most of the girls that I discovered are not really what I expect. There were photos of girls in hijab and it would be hilarious if they are up to what I hope to achieve. I did not get many response, but there was one time when I received immediate feedback, and she got straight to business by saying BO. I guess that's the keyword for P4 P. Unfortunately, a few things immediately raised my suspicion. First red flag, she mentioned that she can use WhatsApp, but mentioned that her phone camera is kaput. Second red flag, she told me that I don't have to pay her anything, only that I need to pay for the hotel room through an online travel agency which she would book on my behalf. I just said this is not how I play and that's the end of it.

Later that night, oscillating between Malioboro, Illegals or 1001, I ended up at 1001 spa. My last trip was in October and back then it was disappointing, as I broke my own rule of selecting a Vietnamese import and my interaction with her was lackluster.

After going though the front entrance, the receptionist would walk me to the lift and the third floor personally. Next the security guard on the third floor asked for my handphone, and placed these two oversized stickers to cover the front and back of the camera, and the receptionist further mentioned that there is a cover charge of 200 K. Okay, this is definitely something new. As I get seated on one of the high table, a mamasan walked up to me and asked for my preference. I mentioned I am not interested in imports and looking for someone local who can provide GFE. After further interactions, I concluded that she had no idea and told her that I am just going to sit and observe before making a decision. I don't really like the idea of the girls being herded and paraded in front of me. Instead, I prefer to observe from a reasonable distance and gauge which girls would likely provide me with the best service and interaction based on their facial expression and body language. Many of the girls there were young with almost all of them in their twenties.

The girls noticed that I was observing them, and many would look my way and smiled to get my attention. I settled for a girl with the most genuine smile who happened to be also quite chatty. She settled next to me and as the rooms were full, I spent the next 45 minutes or so chatting. I always find it that if the girls are comfortable around you and in fact like you, the services and the overall experience will undoubtedly be enhanced. This girl who goes by the stage name Christina was no exception. Case in point, she started off with standard CBJ and ended up with me CIM twice. She also confessed to me sheepishly that she might be a semi border lesbian, since she likes the threesome experience with another girl, but clarified that she likes girls to fondle and lick her breasts but not necessary her pussy.

A few information tidbits that I find troubling. Christina was new to the game and barely over a month under their employment. Already, she was indebted to the company as soon as she started work. Like all profit maximizing corporation with no moral compass, they would squeeze every last pennies or rupiah in this case on these girls. They would charge an exorbitant amount on the dresses they are required to wear. They require that these girls live in their dorm which is conveniently located behind 1001 building, and of course charge them for everything. They would charge them for the hair stylist and makeup work that they have to have daily before work. They would charge them for the mandatory regular doctor inspections. The girls cannot leave the dorm while working there except during their off days. Their workday is a 12-hour shift and they have a daily target of hitting four vouchers. A voucher is an hour session and cost 1. 1 million each. I would ask how often does she meet her target, and she mentioned hardly ever. In fact, that day I was her first client and it was already nighttime. The spa girls would earn only a third of the voucher value which is something like 370 K and will only be disbursed to the after the month is over. No wonder these girls have to depend heavily on tips provided by their clients.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2176091]There were photos of girls in hijab and it would be hilarious if they are up to what I hope to achieve. [/QUOTE]It's only May and already I have clocked up three civilians on Tinder this year who wear jilbabs, two were married.

They were up for everything I hoped to achieve, and a lot that they wanted to achieve too.

No cash transactions were involved.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2176490]It's only May and already I have clocked up three civilians on Tinder this year who wear jilbabs, two were married.

They were up for everything I hoped to achieve, and a lot that they wanted to achieve too.

No cash transactions were involved.[/QUOTE]Wow, I stand corrected then.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2176052]Jakarta girls on Tinder are obsessed with Caucasians only.[/QUOTE]For sure Indonesian girls on tinder are obsessed with caucasians. However, I'd be surprised if they were only matching caucasians.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2176657]For sure Indonesian girls on tinder are obsessed with caucasians. However, I'd be surprised if they were only matching caucasians.[/QUOTE]I think the system does match me blindly I guess given that my interest profile is pretty much a blank slate literally. Their algorithms can only do so much with limited parameters. It is just that I just never hear back from any initiated chat.

By the way, is there any places where I can bring a girl to chill out (cover band etc) within 2 miles radius of Plaza Indonesia on Tuesday night besides CJ? Clubs like Immigrant is unfortunately closed from Sunday to Tuesday.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2176676]I think the system does match me blindly I guess given that my interest profile is pretty much a blank slate literally. Their algorithms can only do so much with limited parameters. It is just that I just never hear back from any initiated chat.

By the way, is there any places where I can bring a girl to chill out (cover band etc) within 2 miles radius of Plaza Indonesia on Tuesday night besides CJ? Clubs like Immigrant is unfortunately closed from Sunday to Tuesday.[/QUOTE]B. A. T. S. In Shangri La springs to mind.

Recently visited KC after a lengthy absence and was disappointed with the set up.

Seemed to be a reduced volume of girls and they are no longer seated where they are easily visible for selection.

Instead they are uniformed (which appeared designed not to reveal) and seated within the room which is also not well illuminated.

Result, not easy to view before selection unless request lineups via Mami / Papi.

Miss the old setup which made relaxing with a drink so much more enjoyable.

Read lots recently about 1001. Is it now considered to be the closest thing to former Alexis? Does it have the best stock of Viet's!?

Appreciate any info and will report on forays to be made later this week.

F.

[QUOTE=Frankie555;2176978]Recently visited KC after a lengthy absence and was disappointed with the set up.

Seemed to be a reduced volume of girls and they are no longer seated where they are easily visible for selection.

Instead they are uniformed (which appeared designed not to reveal) and seated within the room which is also not well illuminated.

Result, not easy to view before selection unless request lineups via Mami / Papi.

Miss the old setup which made relaxing with a drink so much more enjoyable.

Read lots recently about 1001. Is it now considered to be the closest thing to former Alexis? Does it have the best stock of Viet's!?

Appreciate any info and will report on forays to be made later this week.

F.[/QUOTE]I only saw a few Viets at 1001 (same company as the now defunct Alexis) when I was there last week, but more girls from CIS this time. There were many pretty local ones which I prefer anyway.

Day2: I reached out via WhatsApp to a freelancer from CJ that I knew from my last trip to escort me that evening. Turned out that she was back in her kampung at Cirebon, a good four hours drive from Jakarta. She referred a few of her friends instead.

I WhatsApped two of them from the list based on the photos. The first one was not available and the second one already had a previous engagement with her regular, but was willing to do a short time with me until 9 PM. I told her that I needed a longer engagement and she being the opportunistic type in turn referred a few of her friends to me. We started off with Bahasa but then slowly ventured off into English. I was surprised that her written English was pretty good considering everything. Turned out that she had a bule boyfriend who is supporting her.

She sent me different photos of her friends and set the expectation of a referral fee. We settled on a price and finders fee for her. I was interested in one of the girls in her list, but turned out that girl also happened to be unavailable that day, while the ones that were available I was not interested. Sensing that I was about to give up, she suggested that we meet up over dinner, and if the girl she brings along does not work out, I will just cover their taxi cost. I agreed since it might not be a bad idea for me to see them in person since I do not trust all these touched up photos. We met up at MO bar with these girls being unfashionably late the Jakarta way.

My new "mamisan" looked much prettier in person than in her photos. Her friend also looked better in person, but unfortunately we just did not click. During the whole time I enjoyed the mamisan more than her friend and I was pulled more and more towards her during interactions. While we were there, the mamisan had also been juggling her whatsapp and had to step out twice to handle phone calls. Later on, she mentioned that she had been trying to field off her jealous bule boyfriend with lies and excuses as to where she was.

That night was a no-go as the mamisan profusely apologized on why she can't be my escort tonight. I told her it was not a problem and mentioned that she would be my go-to person for what future needs. I even told her that if things did not work out with her appointment that night, she can even meet up with me later. After settling the bill and giving them the taxi money as promised, I headed out to meet up with my friends in karaoke.

KTV is not my type of fun but it was for my local friends. We opened a few bottles of tequila that night, and since they were there with either their wives or girlfriends, they booked a KTV girl to accompany me. In case anyone is interested in bringing KTV girl for a night out, I wouldn’t recommend it. First, they would play hard to get and asked for super high amount. Next, they would use a fallback excuse that company policy does not allow them to leave with the clients out of Karaoke directly blah blah blah. In this case, the KTV girl was asking for 5 million and was not willing to budge on price. Already half drunk and with the time approaching 1 AM, I told my friends that I just need to head out to CJs to bring a girl back to my hotel from there instead.

My friend dropped me off at CJ and told he would wait for me in the parking lot and drive me back to my hotel once I hooked up with a girl there. By the way, during our drive there, that earlier KTV girl finally texted me and was willing to reduce her price to 2. 5 million, but however would need to be paid upfront first. This goes against my rule and I told her not to waste my time anymore.

CJ was still crowded and packed with many beautiful girls that Friday night even at 2 AM. Good thing it closes at 4 AM on Fridays. I bumped into a girl with a very sweet smile and we chatted and quickly clicked. However, I told her that I need to make my walk around the place before I can settle for anyone. Did my round, and even though there were several pretty ones that caught my attention, I still ended with the first girl. I texted my friend that I plan to stay at CJ a bit longer and told him that I would leave with the girl later with taxi instead. The girl has a great sense of humor and I enjoyed her company a lot. We left over an hour later for my hotel and had a great ML night with her into early morning.

Anyone know whether the clubs and brothels will be open on Tuesday and Wednesday night next week? I will be in Jakarta for a few days after a long hiatus and as (bad?) luck would have it my visit coincides with the beginning of Ramadan.