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[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2837057]I made a short visit to Frankfurt & Berlin in October. ...Any recommendations as to fall back?[/QUOTE]So you wait 9 months to tell mostly of experience at Oase, and quick bad time at A, and then use phrase "as to fall back" that to say gently, is unclear. No idea why or what you want?
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2837165]So you wait 9 months to tell mostly of experience at Oase, and quick bad time at A, and then use phrase "as to fall back" that to say gently, is unclear. No idea why or what you want?[/QUOTE]Apologies, I thought I had posted at the time. Senility on way.
Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2837333]Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable.[/QUOTE]So entire ISG thread on Berlin with 8300+ reports on alternatives. See also berlinintim. De, the Berlin 101 report (Charlie123). All the bigger apartment bordellos normally have 10-15 girls. How to manage, current prices, all discussed for many years. A small effort needed.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2837367]So entire ISG thread on Berlin with 8300+ reports on alternatives. See also berlinintim. De, the Berlin 101 report (Charlie123). All the bigger apartment bordellos normally have 10-15 girls. How to manage, current prices, all discussed for many years. A small effort needed.[/QUOTE]Sir, just so you know that, because the LU quality of girl and price change dramatically and quickly (even month to month), old information is not so useful and I always find the latest information on this forum is very useful. Especially because the question about FKK is X-rated and Google / ChatGPT won't give you an answer.
[QUOTE=David1266;2837613]Sir, just so you know that, because the LU quality of girl and price change dramatically and quickly (even month to month), old information is not so useful and I always find the latest information on this forum is very useful.[/QUOTE]Ninja not yet received his knighthood so Sir premature. You misunderstood comment. It was / is simply for anyone interested in alternatives in Berlin to Artemis, there is entire ISG thread on Berlin. Whether it is up to date is another matter. Local German threads very useful.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2837367]So entire ISG thread on Berlin with 8300+ reports on alternatives. See also berlinintim. De, the Berlin 101 report (Charlie123). All the bigger apartment bordellos normally have 10-15 girls. How to manage, current prices, all discussed for many years. A small effort needed.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ninja for your "helpful" post. You are clearly a man of leisure as you spend so much time being unhelpful.
It may have escaped one's notice that the bulk of the thousands of reports on other Berlin offerings are very out of date.
Thanks again for your unhelpful input.
P.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2838141]Thanks Ninja for your "helpful" post. You are clearly a man of leisure as you spend so much time being unhelpful.P.[/QUOTE]Ninja pointed you (looking for alternative to Artemis) to ISG Berlin thread, and 2 key local links. Berlin thread, most recent 4-5 pages, gives some ideas. Local German sites much more.
If you choose to ignore all this, your choice. All Ninja can do as he must return now to life of leisure.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2837333] Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable.[/QUOTE]Recommendations are basically difficult. The situation in Berlin has changed so much in the last 2 years that there are hardly any good women left. The best recommendation is to avoid Pay6 in Berlin.
The best information can still be found in the Lusthaus forum (in German). However, it is very difficult to filter and evaluate the information, for me personally almost impossible. Berlinintim are only ads. The majority of the photographs are old, extremely photoshopped or fake. You do not get what you see.
If you are still looking in Berlin, you should post a specific request with preferences in the Berlin thread a few days before. Maybe you will get a recommendation then.
[QUOTE=Trader80;2839284]Recommendations are basically difficult. The situation in Berlin has changed so much in the last 2 years that there are hardly any good women left. The best recommendation is to avoid Pay6 in Berlin.
The best information can still be found in the Lusthaus forum (in German). However, it is very difficult to filter and evaluate the information, for me personally almost impossible. Berlinintim are only ads. The majority of the photographs are old, extremely photoshopped or fake. You do not get what you see.
If you are still looking in Berlin, you should post a specific request with preferences in the Berlin thread a few days before. Maybe you will get a recommendation then.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the very helpful post.
I will do as you suggest.
Peter.
I'm very familiar with German FKK scene, mostly from experience in Frankfurt. However, been away from Germany in while. Apparently Artemis is the only game in town so I had to knock it off my bucket list.
Place is clean and well maintained. Two electronic lockers available, one for valuables and a bigger one for clothes. Men wear robe provided at entrance, ladies are all nude. Multiple saunas, a hot tub, swimming pool, small gym with mostly weights are among amenities.
Buffet was decent and frequently replenished, with chicken, beef, vegetarian something and plenty of salad options, plus some yogurt and dessert all part of entry fee. Not better or worse than I've seen elsewhere. Soft drinks included in entry fee, alcohol was 10 euros each.
The bar area where most people were had a live strip show for most of the night. One thing I didn't like is the smoking in the most important space available to size up talent. This can make it hard to properly mix and mingle given only desperate ladies seemed to venture out into the non smoking spaces to hassle prospects.
The place wasn't as busy as I had expected for a Fri night, considering it apparently lacks competition. I estimated about 30-35 ladies and maybe a similar number of men. Talent quality wasn't to my taste, most had fake titties, and quite a bunch had fake lips, too much of battle hardened lineup. However quite a few were hot, young and natural. Like other FKKs, most are Romanian.
I sessioned twice, with an exotic from S. America and a Romanian. Both were good considering the non GFE nature of such environment. Very good BBBJ, especially from the Romanian- she even offered light FK. Standard rate is e70 per session, but almost all ladies will upsell BBBJ for e20, some have additional options.
Overall a decent place to unwind, especially if you are a smoker.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2838141] Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable
P.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trader80;2839284]Recommendations are basically difficult. The situation in Berlin has changed so much in the last 2 years that there are hardly any good women left. The best recommendation is to avoid Pay6 in Berlin.
The best information can still be found in the Lusthaus forum (in German). However, it is very difficult to filter and evaluate the information, for me personally almost impossible. Berlinintim are only ads. The majority of the photographs are old, extremely photoshopped or fake. You do not get what you see.
If you are still looking in Berlin, you should post a specific request with preferences in the Berlin thread a few days before. Maybe you will get a recommendation then.[/QUOTE]OK, Going to take a different tack, since your hesitation for Artemis is NOT the ladies but the cover price there is a trip report about 2? 3? months ago where someone went to the two Bordellos West of the City and didn't find the girl he wanted and then headed over to Artemis. This would give you an alternative to Artemis AND a back up. I've read reviews of both bordellos and others have had better luck!
I find Lusthaus to be very good as a fact checker for BerlinIntim ads. OTOH, if you just start in Lusthaus and read the Berlin sub thread, there are at least a half dozen ladies in Berlin who have good reviews in July. Several. If I remember- offer 30 minute sessions.
Again, it's hard to point you in any direction without having commonality in taste or knowing where you are staying. OK i just wandered over to Lusthaus and found 3 good reviews.... Luiza, Juliana, Anna Jackpot. A couple massage ladies etc. If you find them and think, nah, not my type, or too tall/too short etc, you'll realize why FKK recommendations make it easier to share.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2839410]One thing I didn't like is the smoking in the most important space available to size up talent. This can make it hard to properly mix and mingle given only desperate ladies seemed to venture out into the non smoking spaces to hassle prospects. Overall a decent place to unwind, especially if you are a smoker.[/QUOTE]I agree that the cigarette smoke in Artemis can be absolutely, chokingly awful! Especially in the winter time when they don't want to open the windows because the girls complain about being cold. What about the fucking customers whose money pays the bills? I even got sick once from breathing in too much cigarette smoke in this place. Did you go downstairs at all? You can get away from the worst of the smoke that way. Or maybe sit in the chairs closest to the where the food is (can't call it a restaurant because it isn't LOL). There may be fewer girls circulating around down there, but I have met some hotties leading to good sessions, including getting sucked in the kino.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2839410]I'm very familiar with German FKK scene, mostly from experience in Frankfurt. However, been away from Germany in while. Apparently Artemis is the only game in town so I had to knock it off my bucket list.
Standard rate is e70 per session, but almost all ladies will upsell BBBJ for e20, some have additional options. [/QUOTE]E70 is great compared to Frankfurt's e100.
Hi, does it make sense visiting Artemis in early hours (11 am - 4 pm)? How is the line up at these times? How many girls and customers? Is it right to assume that girls will be more relaxed and nicer?
[QUOTE=SanPedro;2839762]Hi, does it make sense visiting Artemis in early hours (11 am - 4 pm)? How is the line up at these times? How many girls and customers? Is it right to assume that girls will be more relaxed and nicer?[/QUOTE]Normally very dead these times, like 10 on both sides. Weak line up. Girls relaxed but also bored. You may get lucky, or not. Line up weak anyway -see reports here and in local German thread Lusthaus. If you go early, best is hang a bit but prepare to leave for some hours and return after 20:00. You check out at desk and can return for free. But really not worth it til end of August with so many on holidays. Choices much better in private flats.