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[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2847352] Not sure why no one buys metro tickets in Berlin except tourists. I stopped paying for the metro after I noticed no one checks or seems to care.[/QUOTE]Maybe you were simply lucky. "No one checks", but still 300 plus people per day get slapped with a 60 Euro fine.
[URL]https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/berlins-justizsenatorin-will-freifahrtschein-fuers-schwarzfahren[/URL]
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2847352]So, in the end I came away thinking that I had spent 210 Euros each night (70 to get in the door, 70 to the girl for half hour, 20 more for BBBJ, plus 50 more for extras) for a total of 420 Euros. About 450 bucks. ..Seems silly to talk about cost-savings measures after dropping hundreds at Artemis, Not sure why no one buys metro tickets in Berlin except tourists. I stopped paying for the metro after I noticed no one checks or seems to care.[/QUOTE]You said key - 450 on so so sex, vs. 6.40 on mass transit, to keep system going, and get you to where you could then spend the 450?
Idea that "no one buys tickets except tourists" based on limited observations. Everyone who lives here who uses BVG often system has day, month or year pass. So it may look like few pay. There are random controls on all trains. Ninja was checked last week 3 times.
Writing a quick report from visit today, Tuesday 29 Aug2023.
Visited at lunchtime right after opening, and late afternoon (5 pm) to early evening (9 pm).
At lunchtime was obviously very slow, but roomed with Beatrice (Rom). Bleached blonde with great body and firm enhanced tits (I am very bad at estimating sizes, but they were more than a handful). Nice room, pretty standard, but very sexy girl imo.
Left and came back about 5 pm. Met Sanny (by the entrance to the lounge. She had introduced herself to me at lunchtime. Decided to room. Pretty girl, 31 yo, big soft enhanced titties. Declined DATY, but had a good room. Fun girl with good conversationalist skills. Mixed German / Moroccan.
After recharge met beautiful black girl from Jamaica named Nina. Natural bees, killer tight body with great feminine shapes. Splurged with great b2 b and extras. Great room with sexy woman.
Chilling out in the lounge at about 9 pm I noticed Mandy who I'd been with once before. Very petite slim spinner type girl with very bleached blonde hair and fair skin. Strong black eye shadow makeup. Does a good job in the room and kept me going until after lots of pounding I managed to release again.
Still vacation period according to girls, but it was busy enough for me. I much prefer weekday pace to weekend party. Estimate about 30 girls when I left, maybe a little more guys.
Pricing remains steady at 70430 with CBJ. Extras are generally priced similarly between girls. Entry fee is 90€, which is a lot but they run the place top notch imo. Lots of staff at bar and cleaning so well worth the premium. I only wish they'd procide a self-service water / soft drinks dispenser in the restaurant.
Will return next I am in the Big be.
NorthernSpirit, on 9/28/21 I wrote: I recommend specially Nina, a beautiful Jamaican with a great ass, like only black girts have. Her tits are small but the nipples are incredibly prominent. Her face is very exotic and sexy.
It seems that we share the same taste!
Met this girl Fleur in Artemis, she's amazing. She's cute and welcoming. Her service is top notch very GFE. BBJ is so great at one point I have to make sure to stop her before I pop because I want to do other things too. I wish I came back the next instead of looking somewhere else. Hope she's still around when I come back. Overall, Artemis is small club compared to other but full of talents. I saw a couple more girls good looking and doable, but I was glad I wanted out and went with Fleur. Until next time.
It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850385]It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Not that I am any Artemis specialist, but I believe you pay 95 E at Artemis for what you normally can expect in a 100 E session at the Frankfurt clubs.
That said, what does a 100 E session in a Frankfurt club really include these days? It varies so much from girl to girl. Let's agree that it should include kissing / DATY / BJ and MPOS CFS for 25- 35 mnts. But that is not always the case. Screening before the session is necessary. I bet the same apply to Artemis.
BTW, you can still have a CBJ/CFS session for 50E in a Frankfurt club. But you need to work for it, and trying other Frankfurt clubs than Sharks will perhaps improve your chances.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850385]It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?[/QUOTE]70 Euro at Artemis is usually with CBJ.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850621]70 Euro at Artemis is usually with CBJ.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's correct. There's usually a 20€ extra for BBBJ, totalling at 90€ for this "base" service. Usually this is pretty non-GFE, but stable performance.
I have quite limited experience across clubs with only a handful visits to Mainhattan and Sharks, and the same for Artemis. But my feeling is that the base service at Artemis is a little more "basic" than at the two Hessen clubs. On the other hand, if you're not too bothered with kissing and other GFE stuff, the base service is fully adequate, although maybe a little "automated".
On the other hand, I have had 100€ rooms at Sharks and MH that are also automated and not including kissing / DATY. So honestly, pricing and service levels are pretty similar imo.
The bad thing is that the entry fee of 90€ at Artemis hurts if you just want to pop (no pun intended) in for a single room. Better spend longer and do more rooms and entry fee will even out. On the other hand, for me always flying in, the cheaper flights to Berlin over Frankfurt am Main more than makes up for the more expensive entry.
There are just so many variables to calculating cost / benefit in this game xD And eventually, everyone will come to different conclusions. I can just recommend everyone to "shop around" and see what floats your boat the most.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850621]70 Euro at Artemis is usually with CBJ.[/QUOTE]How much extra are they asking these days at Artemis for a BBBJ?
[QUOTE=Shark16;2850609]Not that I am any Artemis specialist, but I believe you pay 95 E at Artemis for what you normally can expect in a 100 E session at the Frankfurt clubs.
That said, what does a 100 E session in a Frankfurt club really include these days? It varies so much from girl to girl. Let's agree that it should include kissing / DATY / BJ and MPOS CFS for 25- 35 mnts. But that is not always the case. Screening before the session is necessary. I bet the same apply to Artemis.
BTW, you can still have a CBJ/CFS session for 50E in a Frankfurt club. But you need to work for it, and trying other Frankfurt clubs than Sharks will perhaps improve your chances.[/QUOTE]IMO 70 E baseline is better than 100 E baseline because it's cheaper to take a chance on a girl, and FKKs are so fun because there's so much unknown tail. Sharks standard might be higher, but it will be more expensive if you make a bad choice.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850385]It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Berlin has a poor selection, for FKK land. Just has the artemis. Artemis is a club well managed by the team. But the foods should be better than now. The rooms, the facilities, the design all is perfect, in some areas this is the best place, may be? With a 90 euro entracnce fee it gives a good ambiance indeed. Its easy to reach to artemis via metro or via uber or via taxi. Its close to city center even via walking can go there from zoologischter garden area.
The rooms are nice; but ı do not go for just all these. The woman do not come to guests, mostly the sit and watch and chat around the bar. The ambiance is unreal. Perfect.
The palace, the mainhattan, the oase, FKK sharks. Frankfurt can offer many pleasures. Just stay at the centre visit the palace. Inside is the best design in FKK land I think. The rooms are not cool enough. Close to center and easy to reach even via public transport.
Mainhattan is another choice easy to go there via tram. But a small sized club.
Oase has a great garden and the main bar area perfect. The rooms are so so - ı think. Foods are not ok. The place in the middle of no where. Just at somewhere how can ı describe do not know.
Sharks: biggest by volume, biggest by the number of girls, the best known in FKK land. Also the entrance fee is 65 eur. Foods are better than artemis and than the others. Has a good enough garden area, pool, sauna, jacuzzis.
As a result if ı compare just for the basic servise; sharks is also better than artemis. In the weekdays wg s share the time with you by chatting before the room. They give a gap to meet. Some times they sit with guests on the coaches more than 10 - 15 min. ı think: sharks is the best bet even for the basic service. ı tried all these clubs. My fav: sharks, artemis, palace, oase, mainhattan.
[QUOTE=Gilliat;2850781]My fav: sharks, artemis, palace, oase, mainhattan.[/QUOTE]I've heard various argument for Sharks, Oase, Palace and Artemis for top clubs, but very seldom does anyone name Mainhatten as their top choice, but yet, it keeps going on.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850954]I've heard various argument for Sharks, Oase, Palace and Artemis for top clubs, but very seldom does anyone name Mainhatten as their top choice, but yet, it keeps going on.[/QUOTE]For me, things got so weak at Mainhattan that I stopped feeling like it was worth it to have a peek, even with it being really easy to do so. I used to love World, but we know that club fell off long ago. Only a shell of its former self. So sad! And never any valid explanations for what happened there.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2850959]For me, things got so weak at Mainhattan that I stopped feeling like it was worth it to have a peek, even with it being really easy to do so. I used to love World, but we know that club fell off long ago. Only a shell of its former self. So sad! And never any valid explanations for what happened there.[/QUOTE]Yeah, same here. Mainhattan doesn't even really enter into my consciousness when I think of FKKs. World was amazing for a time for me, since it had such great outdoor facilities and since it was a bit of an effort to reach, it was like Shangrila for me. But I haven't been in years, I hear it's dead. I heard it was a motorcycle gang money laundering operation, maybe the gangs just found better options for laundering or other clubs took its place.