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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2269211]Chongmal, what is a pancake session? You mean a threesome?[/QUOTE]Pancake session means a session that takes at least one hour. Usually even over 2 hours or longer. The Dutch often speak about pancakes when the want to says something about the time spent on the room.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2269935]If you're going in the winter I'm not so sure Oase's facilities makes up for the upsell if you're looking to spend only $60/50 euro per session.
Not that the upsell situation is all that much better, but if you haven't been since 2011, Sharks is worth checking out since was not around back in 2011. It has the most skinny girls and as well as most total girls in Frankfurt area.[/QUOTE]What is the best option for the next week for someone who has not been before, Shark or Oase?
Reading these forums I get the impression that Sharks wins on value, experience and choice.
[QUOTE=Chris1791;2270207]What is the best option for the next week for someone who has not been before, Shark or Oase?
Reading these forums I get the impression that Sharks wins on value, experience and choice.[/QUOTE]Yes. I guess for a first time FKK experience, if I had to choose one of the two clubs you have mentioned, I would probably go with Sharks.
Probably because generally speaking (in my experience) the girls are ever so slightly easier to deal with. But that said you can have a good or a bad time in either club if you don't know what you are about.
Whichever club you choose my advice would be to try and do the simple things correctly; like don't tell the girls you are a first timer. Maybe pay 100 for an hour as opposed to 30 minutes. Stay in a hotel which is close enough to the club so you don't have a tremendous journey to make at the end of the evening. Maybe try and hook up in the club with an ISG Member who is somewhat experienced in these matters for a chat and a beer when you are between ladies.
The lady line-ups will be somewhat diminished (in both clubs) for the next few weeks but there will be enough women for you to choose from.
The main thing is to be relaxed and have fun!
[QUOTE=Chris1791;2270207]What is the best option for the next week for someone who has not been before, Shark or Oase?
Reading these forums I get the impression that Sharks wins on value, experience and choice.[/QUOTE]You will see a lot of talk on this forum from people who've been doing this for years and are jaded. Without exception the first time in an FKK you will say:
1 Holy fuck there are a lot of beautiful naked women here.
2 OMG surely I am dreaming.
3 Surely this can't be legal (it is!
Followed by. That was the best night of my life — when can I go back?
Since you rarely go I would not get too worked up about price. Much better to have a spectacular experience that you overpaid for than to go home with 50€ in your pocket and a disappointing experience.
+100000.
Period.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2270257]You will see a lot of talk on this forum from people who've been doing this for years and are jaded. Without exception the first time in an FKK you will say:
1 Holy fuck there are a lot of beautiful naked women here.
2 OMG surely I am dreaming.
3 Surely this can't be legal (it is!
Followed by. That was the best night of my life when can I go back?
Since you rarely go I would not get too worked up about price. Much better to have a spectacular experience that you overpaid for than to go home with 50 in your pocket and a disappointing experience.[/QUOTE]
Depends on what you are into:
Like me into into stunning, busty girls? I'd vote for Sharks. Nowhere is the selection so great. Especially naturally busty ones.
Into affordable full-service, try GoldenTime or LivingRoom.
Just into stunning, good looking faces? Yes, Oase, is nice for that.
[QUOTE=Chris1791;2270207]What is the best option for the next week for someone who has not been before, Shark or Oase?
Reading these forums I get the impression that Sharks wins on value, experience and choice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2270257]You will see a lot of talk on this forum from people who've been doing this for years and are jaded. Without exception the first time in an FKK you will say:
1 Holy fuck there are a lot of beautiful naked women here.
2 OMG surely I am dreaming.
3 Surely this can't be legal (it is!
Followed by. That was the best night of my life when can I go back?
Since you rarely go I would not get too worked up about price. Much better to have a spectacular experience that you overpaid for than to go home with 50 in your pocket and a disappointing experience.[/QUOTE]Definitely one of the best comments to a first timer. I totally agree. Don't be to fixated on where you get the most or best fuck for your buck, but enjoy your time in the club.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2270257]You will see a lot of talk on this forum from people who've been doing this for years and are jaded. Without exception the first time in an FKK you will say:
1 Holy fuck there are a lot of beautiful naked women here.
2 OMG surely I am dreaming.
3 Surely this can't be legal (it is!
Followed by. That was the best night of my life when can I go back?
Since you rarely go I would not get too worked up about price. Much better to have a spectacular experience that you overpaid for than to go home with 50 in your pocket and a disappointing experience.[/QUOTE]Pretty much exactly my experience. I got in the cab and told the driver "That place is goddamn Candy Land for gents."
I've got $1300 (US Dollars) for my trip next week.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2270257]Since you rarely go I would not get too worked up about price. Much better to have a spectacular experience that you overpaid for than to go home with 50 in your pocket and a disappointing experience.[/QUOTE]I would agree with these sentiments but know what the rates are (before you travel) including for extras. This is just common sense.
If you know it will be more difficult for the lady to charge you incorrectly.
I would not worry too much about loosing Euro 50 here or there particularly on a first visit but try and avoid being ripped off. Its very unlikely to happen (no matter what the club you visit) but I have witnessed guys (particularly Asian visitors) being asked to pay treble or quadruple the normal rate, which would have amounted to several hundred euro over what should have been the correct amount. As I say, these are worst case scenarios and unlikely to happen but in all such circumstances, knowledge is power.
[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2270271]I've got $1300 (US Dollars) for my trip next week.[/QUOTE]That's either a lot of money for one day FKK (including entry fee) or a small amount of money for four days FKK (including entry fees)!
:)
[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2270271]I've got $1300 (US Dollars) for my trip next week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2270275]That's either a lot of money for one day FKK (including entry fee) or a small amount of money for four days FKK (including entry fees)!
:)[/QUOTE]I'd have a tough time making that last 4 days, $1300 if my math is right comes out to 1130 Euros. 1130 in four days comes out to about 280 Euros a day. Assuming a car is roughly 30 a day (or public transport is 30) and club entry is 50 than 80 is gone just to step in the club which leaves the John only 200 Euros less any miscellaneous expenses (Doner kebaps, cigarettes, incidentals etc). I am 100 per session be it a Mainhatten half or a Sharks hour or giving Raissa 100 up the road to blow a load in her mouth.
This would mean cutting out my third session so La Bamba Boys budget would last me three days. At 50 e a session it would last with 50 e leftover for a late night visit to T32 or E44.
I think in order for La Bamba Boy to make this money last he needs to incorporate FKK Dietzenbach in to his rotation for two days as I do since the Creampie Express is 10 e RT, entry to Day Care is 30 e and (3) sessions is 120 e which would be a 160 Euro day and every Day Care day compounds to savings to use in the mainstream clubs to finance more expensive dates. However now that I do the Gypsies in doubles often the price for the day is the same as a day at Mainhatten.
Sometimes more considering the Gypsies are well tipped, I know that ' tip' is a four letter word in your book but they are the Gypsies. Anna :D deserves a tip. So does Steffi. :D So does Bianca :D and so do Becky, Susi, Selena :D , Dana :D, Alina, Elena and Amira.
Enjoy your trip and good luck La Bamba Boy.
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2270295]I'd have a tough time making that last 4 days, $1300 if my math is right comes out to 1130 Euros. 1130 in four days comes out to about 280 Euros a day. Assuming a car is roughly 30 a day (or public transport is 30) and club entry is 50 than 80 is gone just to step in the club which leaves the John only 200 Euros less any miscellaneous expenses (Doner kebaps, cigarettes, incidentals etc). I am 100 per session be it a Mainhatten half or a Sharks hour or giving Raissa 100 up the road to blow a load in her mouth.
This would mean cutting out my third session so La Bamba Boys budget would last me three days. At 50 e a session it would last with 50 e leftover for a late night visit to T32 or E44.
I think in order for La Bamba Boy to make this money last he needs to incorporate FKK Dietzenbach in to his rotation for two days as I do since the Creampie Express is 10 e RT, entry to Day Care is 30 e and (3) sessions is 120 e which would be a 160 Euro day and every Day Care day compounds to savings to use in the mainstream clubs to finance more expensive dates..[/QUOTE]Ha! Yeah, I get a full day Tuesday (current plan is Dietz from noon til 4-5, then Sharks), then nothing until Friday night. Perhaps a quick trip to Rom, Mainhatten, Palace, or the RLD late evening one of the intervening days, but it would be short (2 hours ish). Having a car makes things more accessible, although Oase remains out of reach, as I will be well south of Darmstadt day to day.
So it is really about a day and a half. Seems a decent budget for that. Car is already paid for, so only gas expenses. And the $1300 is for mongering only, not for hotel, food, etc. So I should be able to tip without problem, at least at Dietz rates. Sharks is more. Interesting for sure, although I have tipped there.
My love for the rough and tumble of the RLD means I *have* to try Dietz this time; never know when my last visit will be, and Kosher has been all too descriptive.
Kosher, is that a decent list of who to look for at Dietz?
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My love for the rough and tumble of the RLD means I *have* to try Dietz this time; never know when my last visit will be, and Kosher has been all too descriptive.
Kosher, is that a decent list of who to look for at Dietz?[/QUOTE]Your car will help and ROM will stretch your budget too, I have yet to go but all 50's. I don't know one guy who has been there yet and not found a quality 50 even an idiot fly in like us Americans can do so!
At Sharks of all I have seen only Mandy and Luci (20 on the 100) got tipped. All of the Gypsies are good to me and still get tipped on the 40 sessions which normally last 15-30 minutes unless it is Anna being lazy who uses the full 30 not to make the john happy but to stall being grabbed too quick or having to tell guys no. Gypsy hours are full hours so their tip percentage vastly increases!! Rates are 40/70 and to figure out their tips I give it is simple math; there are no 5 10 or 20 notes in my box, only crisp 50 and 100 notes, the same ones the greedy RTGs and Sharks get. The Gypsies deserve the same :D
That list is partial, the green smiles are some of my regulars but they rotate. The LU is not good right now, the current lineups I have read and been told about by boots on the ground really suck, running at 50-75 percent tops now. All of the German men are back from holidays now and January and September (after summer holiday) are the worst months for Day Care as too many guys show up and too few girls to meet demand and their pussies are sore, loose (already are from a busy December) by 3-4 PM not the usual 6-7 PM. 12-16 Gypsies are needed minimum now and most times but thru middle of the month it is usually 7-12 if anymore we're lucky. Take out Andrea and Milena as non practicing the LU is even thinner. This is why I ended up at Sharks almost every day my trip this time last year.
Of the girls I named all are good but Bianca2 (not to be confused with the real Bianca) is young eye candy who has put on winter weight and many club regulars do not get a great session, she can be detached and robotic but one trip I did her daily. Elena has vastly improved her service to all guests but the first time can be awkward she doesn't like to be pounded either but now she is so loose (as is Alina) that she has no choice but to be pounded and accept it in light of the new girls stealing business. Amira has a permanent yellow caution light or in Europe I think it is a flashing green; very young hot everything but few report great service, if you have a below average dick and cum fast or if you are a tipper she will provide good service happily. Amira is best taken in a double. A few of us think Amira has a significant other who tells her by no means is she to come home loose at night so she does everything and anything to preserve her precious pussy and keep it tight and any cock of average thickness or above will be denied full penetration. (hence the need to take her in a double with a loose Gypsy which is basically all of them now.) FYI Steffi, Dana, Alina, Elena and Susi in that order are the loosest at this time. I have warned four guys about Amira alone, all took her, all came out of the room not happy. Susi is the veteran of the bunch will deliver a top session to all, suggest you see her as I suspect Susi may call it a night in the next year or two, been a long career and run for her. Selena is great too (best blowjob in town and finish as well) as she is the light version (second tightest pussy in the house behind precious Amira) and Dana is your go to girl under all conditions, good for any play will never drop the ball and can score anytime not one bad review all regulars I know have her in their harem, the common denominator of all Gypsy aficionados. If you have any doubt about any girl take her with Dana to the room; no girl will dare upset Dana and misbehave in the room and although she won't do it until they get upstairs out of male view Dana will tear apart any Gypsy she did a double with who didn't put in 50 percent of the work. Dana keeps the house in order, you will notice no other Gypsy will steal her couch either and will get up from her couch when Dana reappears, 'The Throne Of Dietzenbach' is where the Queen (Mother hen) sits and calls the shots. She also ensures Anna doesn't get too lazy in fact I saw her once tell Anna to get to work and stop goofing off (and Anna listened) There is a new girl Andra there (only seen pictures, beautiful) but getting fucked about 20 times a day, told the blowjob is terrible and she doesn't know what she is doing so you need to pair her up too with a good girl, I would suggest Steffi, ex-Globe, ex-Paradise a ' Dana' in her own way. Steffi is great, if you try to get to her couch and feel a foot shove you 20 feet away and steal her from you than odds are you met me, Steffi is currently my screensaver on my cell phone :D
' All it takes is one' so go fight the January battle on Voltastrasse, of the Gypsies above some will be there some won't next week and the week after.
Hello all,
I will be visiting Frankfurt and Cologne for business trip in March. I plan to visit FKK Oasis just because it is the most popular club on this forum. But I have budget and time to visit two more FKK clubs. What are other two clubs in Frankfurt or Cologne will have the hottest number of selection of women available?
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2270520]Your car will help and ROM will stretch your budget too, I have yet to go but all 50's. I don't know one guy who has been there yet and not found a quality 50 even an idiot fly in like us Americans can do so!
At Sharks of all I have seen only Mandy and Luci (20 on the 100) got tipped. All of the Gypsies are good to me and still get tipped on the 40 sessions which normally last 15-30 minutes unless it is Anna being lazy who uses the full 30 not to make the john happy but to stall being grabbed too quick or having to tell guys no. Gypsy hours are full hours so their tip percentage vastly increases!! Rates are 40/70 and to figure out their tips I give it is simple math; there are no 5 10 or 20 notes in my box, only crisp 50 and 100 notes, the same ones the greedy RTGs and Sharks get. The Gypsies deserve the same :D
That list is partial, the green smiles are some of my regulars but they rotate. The LU is not good right now, the current lineups I have read and been told about by boots on the ground really suck, running at 50-75 percent tops now..[/QUOTE]'All it takes is one' indeed. Perspective is that even worst time of year for FKK land is a dream for those of in the United States of No Or Overpriced Sex!