Your Arithmetic Needs Tweaking
[QUOTE=Clement Mic; 1455706]Why the hell pay $200 for sex?
I come from France and I would never travel to a country to then pay $200 for sex.
Over here in France its 200 euros and guaranted beautiful girls!
After the travel, accommodation, etc its not worth it.[/QUOTE]A quick perusal of the Paris escort agencies offering the Russian beauties shows that the asking price for most is 250 Euros for one hour or 300 Euros for one hour. And yes, they are quite beautiful. And I have taken the trouble in past flight stopovers in Paris to run into town and fuck a few of them. Most used fake pics, but were themselves quite good looking. But the prices for these Russian beauties in Paris was quite high. In US dollars. 250 Euro is about $330 USD. And 300 Euros is about $400 USD. This is a high rate for ONE hour, and is nearly the rate it costs in NYC for similarly good looking Russian escorts offering themselves on Eros. Com for $400 / hr.
I don't think you have read this thread on Kiev sufficiently. The one hour rate in Kiev that is routinely being gotten by members who read this thread is $75 / hour (56 Euro) , or $100 / hr (75 Euro). So the first hour rate in Kiev is less than half the rate of what you claim is asked by pretty escort girls in Paris, and less than a third of the Paris prices I found when I just looked.
In Kiev it costs $100 (75 Euro) for 1 hour for many of the girls on Mamba. Ru, and in the nightclubs where there is a negotiation that must take place, your objective is not to pay any girl more than the net rate of $100 / hour. That means that for $200 you would accept no less than 2 to 3 hours of time from a girl in a nightclub in Kiev. No one on this Kiev thread is advocating paying a girl $200 for ONE hour. (Now the guy who keeps writing about his guide Alex and how he helped him find a girl in a nightclub for $200, did not say how much time was negotiated for that $200. If Alex the guide only got him 1 hour with the girl for the $200, which is what you are assuming, then everyone should avoid Alex the guide like the plague, because that would be a ridiculously high rate to pay a pretty girl in a nightclub in Kiev. But more likely he got at least two hours for his $200.)
By contrast, When you try to get 2 hours of time in Paris, you would have to pay double the first hour rate, so if the first hour cost you 250 Euro, for 2 hours you would have to pay 500 Euro ($665 USD) , or nearly that, if you can negotiate a little lower price.
Now as you noted, there are travel and accommodation costs to consider when making any trip to a place where you don't have a home. Some people have concluded that it costs too much for them in travel related costs to make it worth their while to come to a place like Kiev, just because paid sex costs are much cheaper in Kiev. You seem to have made the same kind of conclusion. But is it a correct conclusion?
It is really a matter of arithmetic, rather than mere heated opinion. So I will not waste time on trying to demonstrate anything to those of muddled brain. But if you can do basic arithmetic, you will be able to come to a conclusion on this that is based on numbers and facts. I don't know the flight costs from Paris to Kiev, but for illustration's sake, let's assume it could cost as much as $500. We know a very nice apartment can be rented for $100 / night plus or minus $20. So let's assume a cost for accommodations of $100 / night. If the trip to Kiev is 5 nights long, then it will cost $1000 for air and accommodations. There may be other smaller incidental costs, but let's remember, this is only an illustration, not an official report.
Given that there are at least $1000 of travel related costs for a trip from Paris to Kiev, if your purpose is to have only one hour of sex with one girl, then it would cost 250 Euro ($330 USD) for that one hour of sex if you stayed home in Paris, and if you traveled to Kiev it would cost you $100 for the girl for 1 hour, plus $1000 for travel costs, for a total of $1100 for the same amount of sex in Kiev. Conclusion: better to stay home in Paris and pay $330 for 1 hour, than to travel to Kiev and end up having paid $1100.
But that is only if you are going to have only one girl and one hour of sex.
What if you were a highly-sexed kind of guy, with a keen eye for beauty, and a very strong libido, that you just haven't been able to unleash on the lovely escorts of Paris, purely because of the astronomical cost that would be involved. Suppose you wanted to have sex not just with one girl, but with multiple different girls each day and night. And suppose that you didn't want to be limited to fucking a beautiful girl for just one hour, but wanted to continue to enjoy her for multiple hours, or even for the whole night. And suppose you wanted to engage in this rapacious sex exploit, not for just one day, but for an entire weekend, or week long. What would it cost you to indulge such fancies at the rates charged in Paris?
It would cost an astronomical sum of money to indulge such desires at the rates being charged in Paris! It would cost thousands of Euros in Paris!
But not in Kiev.
In Kiev it would be possible for you to engage in such an avalanche of sex for a fraction of the cost of doing such a thing in Paris. Because in Kiev, having a beauty stay for multiple hours for $200, is something routine. Having all night sexathons for $300, or $400, with a hottie, is also routine. Fucking multiple girls each day for an hour each at $75 or $100 each, easily done in Kiev.
So for those who want to engage in a lot of sex every day with very pretty young girls, for a long weekend, or even a week visit, and surely for longer periods of time, the travel costs become less of a factor.
If you ask me, how many girls do I have to fuck in Kiev, before I start saving money on the sex I could have had at home in Paris? It is a simple calculation. You claim you can get pretty girls in Paris for 200 Euro. I saw rates of 250 euro and 300 Euro, but we shall use your number of 200 Euro ($265 USD) /1 hour for this calculation, for the sake of argument. Well, let's see. If I only get 1 hour of sex for $100 in Kiev, then it cost me $1100 because of the $1000 travel costs. So therefore, if I get two girls in Kiev, each at the $100 / hr rate, then each one cost me $600, when I add their portion of travel costs. If I took three Kiev girls for an hour each at the $100 / hr rate, each would have a third of the $1000 travel costs, or $333, to add to their $100 / hr rate, for a total of $433 cost each of the three girls. If I took four girls in Kiev at the same $100 rate, each would have costed $350 after adding their portion of the $1000 travel expenses. You see how the individual total cost for each girl is going down as we spread the $1000 travel costs over more girls.
The quick way of finding out how many girls you need to fuck at the $100 / hr rate, in order to have a total cost of $265 each, is to simply divide $1000 by $165 (the difference in the Paris $265 rate over the Kiev $100 rate) , and we see that the magic number is 6.06 girls need to be fucked for costs to be equalized between Paris and Kiev, assuming the costs as we have.
So in a trip of five nights and days in Kiev, if you have sex at least 7 times at $100/1 hour rate, you will already be paying less than you would have paid for those 7 hours of sex in Paris, even taking the $1000 in travel costs into account. And if you do things in Kiev like have the girl stay for TWO hours for $150, or even $200, or have the girl stay all night for $300, or $400, which are routinely doable in Kiev, then you would have saved far more, because these things are very costly to obtain in Paris.
Obviously also the precise numbers change, if you contemplate a longer trip because the travel related costs for apartment rental will go up each additional night one stays in Kiev. At the same time, however, much more time is available for additional sessions of sex. So a recalculation with the new numbers is easily done.
Conclusion:
So for a 5 day / night trip, if you don't see yourself having sex more than 7 times in 1 hour sessions over those 5 days and nights, then you should stay home, because you are correct, it would be cheaper to do that in Paris.
But if you do see yourself wanting to have sex for much longer multiple hour sessions, and with many more girls than 7 over a such a 5 night period, then that will cost you much less in Kiev, and could possibly be the only place such a fantasy for you could ever be fulfilled for a cost within your reach, if you are a guy who is really into EE women.
The bottom line: because of the travel cost issue, for guys coming from places where there are high travel costs, trips to Kiev are best for those who wish to indulge in quite a lot of sex, where the cost for the equivalent in their home town is just too astronomical, or for those passing through Kiev for a different reason to which the expenditure of the travel costs would be attributed. But just to have a little sex with a few girls, if you come from someplace where there would be significant travel costs, you might want to look at what it would cost comparatively for the same plans at home versus Kiev.
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She claims to be a Doctor from a village near White Church. Has a son. Wants serious. But will only come to Kyiv, you pay the bus and nanny (700 UAH) , will meet in fancy place. 14:30 and must leave to go back on bus by 19:00.
Pretty certain it is the Serial dater scam!
She says that if it all good and she gets the $$$ for nanny for 3 days she will return and then there will be sex because she knows you now (2nd meeting. Ha)!
Any experience with this gal?
LS Scam Patrol!
Hired help for sexual favours
Here is a response I received from a Mamba girl I'd made contact with recently.
I'd asked if she was interested in meeting me at my apartment and this was her response:
This Google translates roughly into:
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Needless to say I declined the offer.
Hired muscle for sex anyone?