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[QUOTE=JesseJames;2236725]They've been getting away with screwing USA with trade as much as they could. You can't blame them. No one said stop. Until President Trump. He's tough and is standing up to another tough cookie, president for life, Xi. They'll be a deal made, more in US favor. With Xi preoccupied maybe things will loosen up on social scene.[/QUOTE]Let's keep politics out of the discussion since Trump is an idiot. If he was so tough why did he avoid the draft?
[QUOTE=Ronin63;2237998]Let's keep politics out of the discussion since Trump is an idiot. If he was so tough why did he avoid the draft?[/QUOTE]When participants start wasting our time on politics, rather than mongering insights, the forum will fall apart.
Dear all,
I'm occasionally staying at the Swissotel Jing'An and I've been so far only to Spring Massage in Jiangnin Rd.
Now I've read of some other MPs around this area, could you give me an update on them?
- 1565 Huashan Lu: Is the HJ nowadays included in the 258 Lingham massage or does is require additional tips? If yes, how much?
- 250 Yuyuan: Do you have some more information about that? - Price / Offer (mainly interested in HJ, not FS / What to choose, etc.
[QUOTE=SamCan;2214258]Original plan had been to bring over Annie for a performance test after H. It wasnt happing as I was done. Went over to 250 yuyuan lu. An MP favorite. I knew my fave was back in the home city. The girl I met was from Sichuan. Great hard massage roaming all in she asked for a tip at points as I pushed the envelope not far enough for what I tipped but still happy overall. I offered her rmb to come to my room. I jokingly got to 2K for an hour. She was still saying no. She. Wasnt worth 2 k. I just wanted to. Know If shed take it. Anyway. After 4 pops In 36 hours junior wasnt cooperating. She had to work extra hard to get me finished. I tipped accordingly 5 pops in my first 30hours in Shanghai. Good to be back.[/QUOTE]Do you have any other recommendations around Jing'An Temple / Swissotel?
In general, what's your feeling about the current situation? Is it still safe to have a Massage with HJ?
Thanks a lot for your help!
Mi Se.
[QUOTE=Ronin63;2237998]Let's keep politics out of the discussion since Trump is an idiot. If he was so tough why did he avoid the draft?[/QUOTE]Ronin, either post on getting laid in Shanghai, or GTFO.
[QUOTE=Keric333;2237842]I've been there a couple of times as well. I also choose #1 as my go to. She isn't bad looking and gives a great massage. Very courteous and nice to talk to. Great ending. I usually tip more than I should but I don't mind.
#6 is a bit on the heavy side but a bit more open than others. She will let you roam if you ask. Her massage is decent.
I've tried the other masseuses there as well. Most are willing to give an ending with tip. Massages are decent as well.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything that you said. But let's be clear to the forum readers. This place has only one thing going for it. It is close to some of us. That's ALL. I would never take a subway or a car to go to this place. For me, it is a 5-minute bike ride to it. If it wasn't close, I'the never go there.
So I'll be there in a month for the fifth time. I am registered in a mid-level Chinese hotel and I put that info on my visa application so they could see that I was staying in Shanghai. I know if you don't provide details on what hotel you are staying at, you are supposed to check in with the police and I don't want anything to do with that. But the thing is that the woman I am coming to visit wants me to stay with her in her apartment. Do any of you have any advice / observations about that? Do you think the hotel would notify the police that wasn't actually staying there? Should I try to convince her that we need to stay in the hotel at night?
[QUOTE=Midwestern;2238301]I agree with everything that you said. But let's be clear to the forum readers. This place has only one thing going for it. It is close to some of us. That's ALL. I would never take a subway or a car to go to this place. For me, it is a 5-minute bike ride to it. If it wasn't close, I'the never go there.[/QUOTE]Better options if you want to travel around the city.
[QUOTE=PuttPutt509;2238510]So I'll be there in a month for the fifth time. I am registered in a mid-level Chinese hotel and I put that info on my visa application so they could see that I was staying in Shanghai. I know if you don't provide details on what hotel you are staying at, you are supposed to check in with the police and I don't want anything to do with that. But the thing is that the woman I am coming to visit wants me to stay with her in her apartment. Do any of you have any advice / observations about that? Do you think the hotel would notify the police that wasn't actually staying there? Should I try to convince her that we need to stay in the hotel at night?[/QUOTE]The hotel will register you with the police. If you check-in, leave things there, and stop by from time-to-time I can't imagine there being a problem.
Several times I've booked hotels for a few days or a week and only showed up days and not spent the night. Never questions.
[QUOTE=PuttPutt509;2238510]So I'll be there in a month for the fifth time. I am registered in a mid-level Chinese hotel and I put that info on my visa application so they could see that I was staying in Shanghai. I know if you don't provide details on what hotel you are staying at, you are supposed to check in with the police and I don't want anything to do with that. But the thing is that the woman I am coming to visit wants me to stay with her in her apartment. Do any of you have any advice / observations about that? Do you think the hotel would notify the police that wasn't actually staying there? Should I try to convince her that we need to stay in the hotel at night?[/QUOTE]The hotel information you put on your visa application; I don't think that will go to the Police in China. That's just to convince the Embassy where you got your visa from, that you are an upstanding citizen that has planned his trip carefully. They might, before you got your visa, have made a call to the hotel to confirm your reservation. You have to go to the police station within 24 hours, regardless of that. However, hotels will inform the police for you, if you are staying with them. If you are not staying in a hotel, you must go to the nearby police station yourself to get a 'temporary residence' form.
I don't think the hotel will call the police if you did not show up. The hotel will call you however to ask why you didn't check in, and charge you with reservation costs; assuming you did make a reservation. If you didn't; they couldn't care less.
So again, by Chinese law, you have to inform the police within 24-hours of your arrival where your temporary residence is. So even though your attitude is "I don't want anything to do with that" . These days, I definitely would not skip this!
If I were you; I would check in the hotel; and then just stay with the woman in her apartment. Since you said it's a mid-level hotel, I assume it's not a 5-star hotel. So I wouldn't be too eager to bring a working girl there. Unless you know her well enough that you can easily pass her off as your girlfriend.
Another of my favorite MPs closed a few weeks ago, and on my last visit to check up had its interior stripped down. It used to be a Hao Di Fang on Zhangyang Road, near the Century Ave Metro (you can see the wayback archive of SNL to see more details). A couple of years ago it changed to e-Health Massage, and I always found it to be a good deal: they had a special back massage for 168 where the girl would walk on your back, and then give you a footjob for 1 or 2 extra Maos (sometimes free). Not a bad deal for the location.
We'll see what happens after refurbishment is finished, but I expect it will turn legit. It seems there is a big effort to clean up Pudong.
[QUOTE=PuttPutt509;2238510]I know if you don't provide details on what hotel you are staying at, you are supposed to check in with the police and I don't want anything to do with that. But the thing is that the woman I am coming to visit wants me to stay with her in her apartment. Do any of you have any advice / observations about that? Do you think the hotel would notify the police that wasn't actually staying there? Should I try to convince her that we need to stay in the hotel at night?[/QUOTE]If you register at the hotel, the hotel does the police declaration for you.
If you don't stay at the hotel but choose to stay at a private home, you have to go to the police with the owner (if she is) or her rental contract to state you'll stay there.
Registering is a rather simple process and it should be done within the first 2 days of your arrival. However if you choose not to follow the law and get controled or involved in any kind of event where they'll check your ID (accident, fight, whatever) you'll be fined several thousand RMB and a mention will be put on your file in the police station.
[QUOTE=SnrMan;2238522]The hotel will register you with the police. If you check-in, leave things there, and stop by from time-to-time I can't imagine there being a problem.
Several times I've booked hotels for a few days or a week and only showed up days and not spent the night. Never questions.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. In fact, I did this recently when I went to Beijing last week.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;2237111]Does anyone know if Changshou 76 Spa has re-opened?[/QUOTE]This one's a no. The MPs around Jingan, or at least the ones which have no semblance of 'legitimate' business, seem to be gone now. The ones that have reopened are now super-bright and no longer look like the shady unmarked storefronts of old. Whether or not this is actually the case or not I have no clue; it's entirely possible they've just gone the route of the veg places where you need to know how to ask for more. Case in point: the North Shaanxi spot is open again, but looks nothing like before. Anyone daring enough to scout it out?
Great advice and consistent thoughts from a few of you. I will check into the hotel and leave some toiletries and clothes there, maybe stop by a few times during my week stay and mess up the sheets. My lady friend really wants to host me at her apartment and show me her life, but I don't want to make myself a target. Your advice is perfect. Don't totally abandon the hotel after checking in, but it seems like if I don't give them a reason to turn me in things will be fine.
Much appreciated.
As noted in another forum a big storm is sweeping into town with the CIIE coming in a few weeks.