Sao Paulo Reports

For the record, the CORRECT address for Eu E Ela is

Rua Pires da Mota. 494.

Aclimacao.

SP,

011-3209-2756.

[url]www.eueelas.com.br[/url]

It is NOT really findable in Google. And R. Pires da Mota 414 (address given below) is a PRIMARY SCHOOL down the block which, at 10pm, is COMPLETELY DEAD. So thankfully my buddy called his buddy in NYC who gave us the right address as we were standing there on the sidewalk.

Eu E Ela is in a modern building right at the intersection of Pires da Mota and Av. Aclimacao. It's not got very good signage but it has valet type dudes out in front.

Entrada is R$69 and gets jacked up to R$99 I believe during peak hours. However, TAKE NOTE, peak hours are basically 6pm. 9pm. We got there at 10. 30pm and the place was DEAD. Like 4 cheap Mexican working girls hanging around. Now, the facilities appear pretty nice and modern, but basically all the girls clear out by 10pm according to the server and the counter guy. So I had a R$69 bottle of water (e. G, my entrance fee, which was consumption) and left. I did receive a rarely-seen R$1 bill (not coin) as part of my change so I guess that's something.

At that point, without much hope left, we headed to Scandallo which was the closest place expected to suck the least. Scandallo at night looks like a cross between a fortress and a cruise ship. It's this big solid building the might be a hotel or a sports club, palm trees, lights, annoying valets. Very high airport-security to get in. Wand you down, let you through a door 1 at a time. Have to give I'd and get a card downstairs, then go 1 FLIGHT up in an elevator that they let 4 people on at a time. Another annoying doorman. It's all about access control and creating the illusion of exclusivity. That is, FUCKING ANNOYING.

Upstairs, there is a big cashier counter, a restaurant area, and a trendy big disco area with a bar down one side, a stage, and booths on the other. I would say slightly. Ever so slightly. Hotter girls than Bomboa, in a bigger area with louder noises. Ridiculous drink prices again. Turns out R$100 of your R$150 entrada can go to consumption, as far as I could tell. Then they somehow tag you with another R$50 "Entrada Festa" cost if you go over the R$100. I tried to get an explanation but it was too loud to understand well.

Lots of fake titties on display but still fatter chicks, older chicks, skanks. Nothing to really get excited about. And a TON of douchebag guys and older guys and Asian guys. Not judging, just reporting. I couldn't bring myself to ask a girl about pricing because I could just tell I'd get so angry when she quoted me R$600 or some dumbass thing. Not clear if they have rooms on site either.

Did see some older Asian guy pick a fight with a huge Black bouncer. Which he promptly lost as they dragged him out and started beating the crap out of him. LOL. Drinking makes people stupid.

Left sort of annoyed, more so by the R$40 cab to Eu e Ela and the R$42 cab back to my hotel. Sao Paulo is lame for getting around.

So tomorrow night (Friday) I have to choose between a haul to Connections (which I hear is lame on Fridays until late) or places on Rua Augusta. Suggestions?

-Cartman

Get the metro down to the Rua Nestor Pestana clubs. Try out Mylove and then cross the road and check out Kilt. There are a few clubs all within 100 yards. Last time I was at Kilt you could drag the girl up stairs and do them in the little rooms that just had curtains for doors and sides from memory. You can of course take them off premises as well but they quote R$100 more. I love drinking at the Kilt bar as a the girls do shows literally on top of your drinks. They used to have swings and stuff that they would hang off as well. One of the best bangs I have ever had in Brazil was with a chic that almost sat on my beer! Stunning Morena!

Current prices from gdpguinet

Entrance- R$50.00 (inlcudes a drink or 2 from memory)

Bar Fine- R$50.00 (i drink for her to take her out)

Girl quote- R$250 to R$300

Bar Kilt. rua nestor pestana 266, Sao Paulo 01303010 10 minute from Metro Republica

[url]http://www.kiltshows.com.br[/url]

Kilt opens around 9pm, if you want to kill a couple of hours on the way. The Orion Teatro is just near Republica Metro. R$10 entrance. It is a nice enough Teatro that has live strip shows pretty much constantly during the day up until early evening. When the girls finish they then rotate to the seats asking if you want to take them up the rooms. It is a bit sleazy, but some of the woman are ok, nothing wrong with Sleazy women as long as they are Hot Sleazy Women!

The show in itself if worth seeing if just to watch the goings on of the local audience. The girls do a little strip and then when they arrive at the edge of the stage all the Brazilian guys get up, rush to the front of the stage and grope as much flesh as they can in the 30 seconds that the stripper stays there. She then retreats to the back of the stage and the guys take their seats again until she reappears at the front of the stage after a few minutes. Then they get up, rush to the front and grope away. Pavlov's dog experiment in action.

I always go here when in Sao Paulo as it is cheap and it kills a couple of hours. Never done a chic there but wanted to once. Was chatting to a hot little Morena after her show and was "definitely interested" into taking her to the room. Didn't do it because her bad breath could have killed a horse. At 10 paces. Just couldn't get around that.

[url]http://www.teatroorion.com.br/[/url] Rua Auroa 753

At night, like after 10pm this area gets really seedy real fast. Up near Kilt I find is safe, down here after Midnight, not recommended!

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1145332]. So tomorrow night (Friday) I have to choose between a haul to Connections (which I hear is lame on Fridays until late) or places on Rua Augusta. Suggestions?

-Cartman[/QUOTE]Well, myself, I'd finally forget about the over-priced clip joints, and head down to Augusta.

I'd take the metro to Republica stop, save on the big taxi cost.

There's a churrascaria right off the Rebublica station, across the street from Paqrue Republica, next to Habibs.

Nothing fancy, but pretty good food and about 18R. Yep, I said 18R. You don't have to over-pay in SP either.

From there, hang a left out of the restaurant, about a block or so, hang another left on Sao Luis.

A block or 2 up Sao Luis you'll see little outdoor cafes, music playing, people dancing, outdoor stuff (on Fri and Sat).

Nice to girl watch / meet (non-pro) and have a cerveja maybe.

Ok. After 9pm, and better after 10-1030pm, continue up Sao Luis to the traffic light and yep, you'll run into Augusta.

Hang a right and you're on your way to some way less expensive clubs but with girls just as pretty and sometimes better than the over-priced tourist traps.

As Bubba posted earlier, you'll find on Rua Nestor Pestana (which is a few blocks up Augusta on your right) , a couple good boates.

My Love is one of 'them. It is hit and miss, however, costs ZERO to enter, and they'll let ya hang out for 10 minutes or so before buying anything. Check out the garotas. Can find some cuties there.

Ask for the waiter, Hugo. Great guy!

Again as Bubba posted, you can go across the street to the Kilt, see his post for particulars there.

Now, if you continue up Augusta a bit, you'll start running into boates.
I like 2 of them.

Maison is one. The doorman Garcia is a good guy, speaks english, espanol and portuguese.
7 or 10R to get into, your choice, for 1 or 2 drinks.
Also, some cuties can be found here at times. About 100R for 1 hour in-house, incl room or 50R to the club to take them out and you negotiate, easily 150-200R for all night.

Casaro is the other. Enter between 11 and midnite, can get crowded after that. 10R entrance, includes 2 drinks.
There are some really hot garotas here at times. I met one in particular recently, from Florianopolis, beautiful, natural, better than any high priced garota I've ever seen.
In house fun for between 120R to 180R including room, depending on negotiating skill.
Great place to make contacts for future encounters.
No rip offs by the club. Good people.

That's my recommendation. Nothing fancy, but good fun and one can easily find some nice girls ... or you can throw away money at higher priced clubs with garotas que tem bucetas de ouro :)

Cartman,

I agree with Bubba Boy, from your posts Kilt seems like your kind of place.

GK

Bubba Boy,

Thanks for exercising my humor muscle. I haven't lauged this hard in a long time. Teatro Orion is a must visit next time when in SP to watch that spectacle. I will remember to bring a nose clip.

GK

[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1145465]Bubba Boy,

Thanks for exercising my humor muscle. I haven't lauged this hard in a long time. Teatro Orion is a must visit next time when in SP to watch that spectacle. I will remember to bring a nose clip.

GK[/QUOTE]We're all waiting for some of your enjoyable reports, GK.

Oh! You'll take the high-end and
I'll take the low-end
And I'll be in Rua dos Andrades 69 afore ye.
But me and my GP.
Will never meet again.
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of São Paulo. :D

T501 in Centro Rio has a similar setup when the girls dance on their tiny stages. Some girls let the guys grope away and the guys just go nuts. They virtually stick their heads in the ass crack of the chic and have a good look around. The guys do it with such concentration it is just a hilarious. I have spoken to some of the girls about it, suprisingly some girls actually dig getting groped so go figure! Only in Brazil!

Gk, I went to Zuka the other night. Was OK, not unforgetable, had better meals at many other so called lesser places.

Slightly off topic but none the less about Brazil. Sometimes or a lot of the time, even the smallest thing in Brazil is just made to be so much more difficult than it needs to be. I just came from the Pharmacy to buy some Ibuprofeno. The conversation went like the following and believe me this is the shortened version:

Counter guy: "what concentration of Ibuprofeno do you want".

Me: "whatever you have, it doesn't make much difference to me".

Counter guy: "well 200mg is for." and he goes on and on,"then 300mg is for." he goes on and on,"then of course 400mg is for."

Me: ""I guess I will have 300mg"

Counter guy: "sorry, we only have 400mg, will that do?"

I just look at him wanting to say are you fu*ing kidding me!

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1145533]Slightly off topic but none the less about Brazil. Sometimes or a lot of the time, even the smallest thing in Brazil is just made to be so much more difficult than it needs to be. I just came from the Pharmacy to buy some Ibuprofeno. The conversation went like the following and believe me this is the shortened version:

Counter guy: "what concentration of Ibuprofeno do you want".

Me: "whatever you have, it doesn't make much difference to me".

Counter guy: "well 200mg is for." and he goes on and on,"then 300mg is for." he goes on and on,"then of course 400mg is for."

Me: ""I guess I will have 300mg"

Counter guy: "sorry, we only have 400mg, will that do?"

I just look at him wanting to say are you fu*ing kidding me! [/QUOTE]This too F*cking funny.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1145313]The price tipically includes the full service the girl provides and massage, typically 2 nuts and a rubdown or so for nearly all of these clinica / massage places. No tip is usually given, but a small token will get you remembered if you are a regular, But if you visit infrequently don't bother, pay at the door for service rendered. Allure is really busy though, so if you have someone in mind you may want to call ahead.[/QUOTE]I like the sound of that, included! I had experiences in other countries where "tudo" meant we negotiate again in the room which only leads to more misunderstandings. Nothing reduces an erection faster than a girl denying an additional service or wanting more $ before getting started.

So for my last night in SP, I read up on options and looked over the suggestions here and in PM (thanks guys!).

My one-hour nap turned into a 2hr nap. I got up around 8. 45pm, showered, threw on jeans and a polo shirt, and headed out from the Radisson (Itam Bibi). R$300 per night? I think US$190, nice place, free full breakfast. To Rua Augusta. Cab took about 20 mins. 30 mins probably, another R$30+ down the tubes. Got dropped off near Casario / Casaro (findable on Google). Definitely seedier on this side of Av. Paulista. The farther down the hill, the seedier. Grabbed a salgado and headed to Casaro. Got there around 10. 30. Woman says "Come back at 11pm, we open then." I ask when they close and she says 7am. Yowza! I knew SP was a "late" down but that's hardcore!

Walked down the hill towards Kilt. Long walk. Tried to find Maison on the way but didn't remember the street number. Definitely seedier down around Kilt. The hotel I stayed at in 2005. Grand Hotel Ca D'Oro. Is like right down there somewhere but I didn't see it (maybe it's gone?). The restaurant Planeta that I ate at with a Brazilian porn star on that trip is still there. I think that was the 20 mins we left the room LOL.

Anyway, rock up towards Kilt and see My Love across the street. Figure, hey why not. Turns out entrada is R$10-15 or something or so at least on Friday but it counts to a drink. Grab a water and sit. Decent lighting inside, reasonably nice place. They have a row of like 6 little booth / cabines (with curtains) in the back that apparently you can rent (R$75?) and bang in LOL. Pretty dead inside at 10. 30 or so. 5 girls. Brushed off one and just sort of hung out. Around 11pm a bigger blond chick with a HUGE Asian dragon tattooed on her back comes to talk to me. I'm like, OK, I'll chat. About 10 mins in, she asks for a drink Turns out she wants a Smirnoff Ice which runs R$35. Ack. I'm like, fine. We talk for another 20 mins and she's pretty cool and reasonably OK looking. Naty (natch-ee) is her name. We start negotiating and she gives me the run down. Can suck deep, hates anal, wants R$250 for an hour. I'm like, what about all night. 2 times at night and once in the AM. She's like R$500. I'm like, haha no. So she drops it to R$400. I push her on her BJ skills and she says "You don't want me to suck you without a condom, right?" I'm like. Huh? Of course I do. Lecture her about how every girl I know in Rio and the 2 I had last 2 nights in SP all do this. She relents. I tell her I have to go check out Kilt but might come back. Total cost is R$50 between my entrance, her drink and a $5 commission (to her) they tack on to her drink.

Kilt is across the street. Get there around 11. 30pm. R$50 entrada includes 1 drink. Very busy. TONS of Asian guys (Japanese?). Like 80% of the dudes. Girls are a mixed bag. There are 1-2 cuties (8s) but rest seem just the same as My Love and frankly Rio T's these days. End up talking to 2 girls who are trying to convince me to take both of them back to my hotel. Pricing is quoted again around the R$300 / hr with higher overnights. While this is going on, I turn around and there is a live sex show going on the Kilt stage. Some white fatty chick is getting ploughed by a hairless muscle guy in work boots. Urg. Didn't love seeing that. Hang out for about 30 mins total waiting for better talent, but it doesn't appear.

Head back across to My Love. Get nailed for another entrada. Also have to wait for the Viagra to kick in, so find Naty, tell her to get dressed, and we hang out there for 20-30 mins. She has another Smirnoff Ice. There are probably 20 girls here now and some are pretty cute. Cost to head out is R$70 made up of R$50 for her exit fee, her drink and my entrada. Not quite sure how that all added up but it did.

Long fucking cab ride back to the hotel, length of R. Augusta. Packed with seedier looking folks now at 12-12. 30 and horrible slow traffic. Back at the hotel, she has a cigarette on the deck, asks for the minibar (I demur) , showers up and the fun begins. She was pretty pretty good. Best part was during my second O that night, she's blowing me and she says "Cum in my mouth." I'm like, wait weren't you the chick who wanted to blow me with a condom LMAO. But you don't have to ask me twice. Woke her up at 8am by poking her in the back and she got to business again like a good sport. Handed her R$400 after she got dressed,"like we agreed." She says, o, I need cab money too. I'm like, hey you didn't say anything about that. She pouts. I agree SP sucks for getting around and give her R$20. Pissed me off though. I never give cab fare to Rio chicks except Carlas models or if it's agreed up front. Weak.

Oh yeah. On the way out of My Love, the bouncer outside asks me for a tip. I'm like "What for? For opening the door?" He says something."I'm like, for talking to me? I talk to people all day and nobody gives me a tip!" Fucker. I didn't even take a cab from out front, we walked around the corner. He can kiss my fat white ass.

Total cost of My Love: R$50 + R$70 +$400 + R$20, plus the 2 cab rides (R$30 each way). I think that's R$540 plus R$60, or R$600. Last night at MC, back in Rio, I spent R$470 I think for 1 hour in a cabine and some drinks. It was a night without my free entrada, though. And I hung out in the boate for like 2.5 hours just chilling and watching chicks in bikinis shake their booties. And honestly, I enjoyed the MC experience better. I think Cartman likes to chillax in a robe in a terma, hassle free. Plus the investment is time to get the T chicks (T-girls has wrong connotations lols) to come over to my apt. For R$200.

-Cartman

Thanks for some nice reports Cartman. You confirm the impression I have received from others recently. The SP club scene sucks at the moment.

GK

[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1146178]Thanks for some nice reports Cartman. You confirm the impression I have received from others recently. The SP club scene sucks at the moment.

GK[/QUOTE]I agree esp with the current exchange rate. With the influx of business into Brasil and SP especially the good looking garotas don't care about service they will get another guy the next day and the next. And the club can't do anything about it. Best to stick with clinicas or reviewed girls on gpguia who depend on repeat customers.

I recently discovered how big London scene is which is cheaper than Brazil now believe it or not. No boites as it is not legal but plenty of other stuff with Brazilian girls. They are all here to go to school to learn english and make money and so they depend on repeats. No need to speak porto with them as they can speak english. For 200GBP=500R you can find a super hot girl for that will do anal and cim swallow and multiple pops which I never found once in all my years mongering in Brazil. So now I much prefer coming to London to find a garota than in Brazil LOL.

Hobbying,

It doesn't sound like you had much luck in Brazil. What you have found in London is available all over the country.

The best country in Europe to find great Brasileiras would be Spain.

London sucks more than SP!

GK