Tropical Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Jackie888;2720460]I think that the term "girlfriend" while a girl works in the zona norte is a bit broad. I have a couple of chicas ask if I wanted to be their novios, but they warned me that they have other novios. I said "sure, no problem." To me, the term girlfriend in the Zona Norte means that I am one of her favorites. And that she is one of my favorites. We have a little more connection than the client and chica relationship. For example, I may take her to dinner or a movie or the beach, and we have GF sex. But it is not a traditional girlfriend since I have a couple of them. And she has a couple of us.[/QUOTE]Jackie888 yes I agree with you, my best advice is don't take the Chicas too serious and have fun! No girl wants to hang out with a desperate nut job. Just bang them have fun, keep to a budget and be friendly. But realize it is mostly bullshit. I had a girl in HK ask me to be her Novio too. She was a petite spinner and a 9. 5 easily with makeup. She had some 19 year guy living with her that used to work in Azul. I told her politely that I loved her like a friend and I appreciated the offer, but informed her that men can be jealous and it wasn't fair to her boyfriend. I did love fucking her though, super hot for me LOL!!

First off I think of myself. I got my first taste of money for actual work at 10. Got first legit job at 16. I have worked almost every day since. I like getting money.

Sure you a novio. What do you expect? If you want fun these Mexican girls deliver like no other. Do you want them to stop making money? Can you afford to keep money in their pockets? Do you think they will be the same chicas if they not earning their own money?

Anyways have fun. Shoot I am about to visit one in her home town. Will we get serious? Whatever that means. Long as she happy and I am happy who really cares what the label is.

One more thing remember these girls are young. Some early 20's. Have not gotten "serious" but had fun with a couple 18 year olds. Set your expectations accordingly for your sake and hers.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2720763]They only want your money, and the Chicas have fucked up lives and families they have to support. Better to be their "Novio" for 30 min and leave once your satisfied. FYI.[/QUOTE]That right there is some great advice. While the GF thing can be a lot of fun and lead to great adventures south of the border. There lives are filled with problem after problem and the deeper you get in there problems become your problems.

[QUOTE=BaxterSlade;2721353]That right there is some great advice. While the GF thing can be a lot of fun and lead to great adventures south of the border. There lives are filled with problem after problem and the deeper you get in there problems become your problems.[/QUOTE]Mr. Slade straight up dropped some science right here. For the uninitiated who read the fantasyland reports guys post in this and the other Tijuana threads, take everything you read with a grain of salt. With regard to putas, fuck them, pay them and say adios in that order. It's okay to have repeat sessions with a favorita, but always remember it's simply your turn.

I have gotten to know many sex workers in the US. It does not matter where they work. It does not matter their race. They make "easy" money and low lives attach themselves to these girls to be parasites on their money.

One time a girl in LA took me to her house. It is pretty obvious what an older dude with a job is doing with a 21 year old girl. Her dad took one look at me then turns to his daughter and says "you owe me money". I have more stories. I like to get to know the good ones. Plan on meeting the family of my first Mexican sex worker soon.

These girls are damaged. If they freaks in bed they probably super damaged. They probably have "loved ones" at home doing jack shit to earn and being parasites.

I dig these girls as much as anyone. Just be real about where your hard earned cash is going.

[QUOTE=Hadez;2721444]I have gotten to know many sex workers in the US. It does not matter where they work. It does not matter their race. They make "easy" money and low lives attach themselves to these girls to be parasites on their money.

One time a girl in LA took me to her house. It is pretty obvious what an older dude with a job is doing with a 21 year old girl. Her dad took one look at me then turns to his daughter and says "you owe me money". I have more stories. I like to get to know the good ones. Plan on meeting the family of my first Mexican sex worker soon.

These girls are damaged. If they freaks in bed they probably super damaged. They probably have "loved ones" at home doing jack shit to earn and being parasites.

I dig these girls as much as anyone. Just be real about where your hard earned cash is going.[/QUOTE]Interesting take on your perspective, but I would suggest when meeting the family to keep an open mind. The ones I've met were genuine down to earth people with limited resources due to the earning potential in their countries. They do the best with what they have. Most of these women I've met have little opportunities to pull themselves or family out of their hardships so guess where fast money is made.

Most view it as work and to make the most in the least amount of time possible. Some connections are formed and hopefully they respect your time and effort. I do know that if I was a broke dick, then it wouldn't necessarily be about love, as love doesn't pay the bills at the end of the day. Doesn't matter if the women you meet are working or not, they all have commitments or goals they are trying to accomplish. Also the women being damaged just because they enjoy sex and being a freak with you? Weird statement as most mongers are freaks and enjoy sex, but doesn't mean we are all damaged. We just select who we want to be freaks with. If they are inviting you to meet the family and cousins, then know you are more than a client or don't waste their time or yours and just keep it strictly P4P. Most women wouldn't want to lose face if things don't work out. Good luck in your adventure.

Like I said I have not met a Mexican girl's family yet but I think it is coming. Each girl has a different story. Each family member has a different story. I once knew 4 generations of family who were welfare addicts. Brothers sisters and cousins. One young girl not only held a job but wanted 2 jobs. It was interesting to see her stand out from 4 generations of people who found a way to barely live off the govt.

I do not have hundreds of data points but I do have many data points across many races. Nothing is absolutely true.

These girls take me to their family because I am a gentleman. I am trustworthy. Because they like me in some way.

And yes they damaged. Nice girls are shyt in bed. Damaged girls are amazing in bed. Some are too wild for me but some get to me like nothing else on the planet. I treat these ones like the Queens they are. I would get serious but the emotional rollar coaster they will take a boyfriend on is more than my career will allow.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2721468]Interesting take on your perspective, but I would suggest when meeting the family to keep an open mind. The ones I've met were genuine down to earth people with limited resources due to the earning potential in their countries. They do the best with what they have. Most of these women I've met have little opportunities to pull themselves or family out of their hardships so guess where fast money is made.

Most view it as work and to make the most in the least amount of time possible. Some connections are formed and hopefully they respect your time and effort. I do know that if I was a broke dick, then it wouldn't necessarily be about love, as love doesn't pay the bills at the end of the day. Doesn't matter if the women you meet are working or not, they all have commitments or goals they are trying to accomplish. Also the women being damaged just because they enjoy sex and being a freak with you? Weird statement as most mongers are freaks and enjoy sex, but doesn't mean we are all damaged. We just select who we want to be freaks with. If they are inviting you to meet the family and cousins, then know you are more than a client or don't waste their time or yours and just keep it strictly P4P. Most women wouldn't want to lose face if things don't work out. Good luck in your adventure.[/QUOTE]

Was there on Thursday. Surprised the number of girls for mid afternoon. The mesero would not leave me alone at the bar and kept pushing the pool option. Saw it once a year or so ago and said no. The chica I was drinking with went by the name of Summer. Great English and claimed to be an architect which after a few questions I did not doubt. She has spent time in Germany as a sex worker and wants to move there. Asked her if she would be comfortable going up to the pool area getting naked and smashing in a public space to which she told the mesero to move off. Bigger girl than I usually clink drinks with but sweet with an ability to hold a conversation. Great natural DD rack but had an ass to match. Beautiful face though. Told her I would receive my 10 panel test back on Friday and if it was all clear (which is was praise Caligula) and said I would be down for an extended time if I could go bare. She said no as she is not on birth control which I came back w the fact I'm 16 years snipped and the last text was "idk". Prolly not going to happen and also more than a zero risk of me polluting my certified sparkling clean fuck machinery. I have had success at picking the girls that will do bare and not make my junk fall off. Don't quite know why. Maybe my SOP post load dump but this run I was at 32 ladies including five Colombians, (one of which went ATM to finish) a dozen Americans, a few Europeans and the rest mostly Mexicanas. Stay safe out there.

[QUOTE=Hadez;2721878]Like I said I have not met a Mexican girl's family yet but I think it is coming. Each girl has a different story. Each family member has a different story. I once knew 4 generations of family who were welfare addicts. Brothers sisters and cousins. One young girl not only held a job but wanted 2 jobs. It was interesting to see her stand out from 4 generations of people who found a way to barely live off the govt.

I do not have hundreds of data points but I do have many data points across many races. Nothing is absolutely true.

These girls take me to their family because I am a gentleman. I am trustworthy. Because they like me in some way.

And yes they damaged. Nice girls are shyt in bed. Damaged girls are amazing in bed. Some are too wild for me but some get to me like nothing else on the planet. I treat these ones like the Queens they are. I would get serious but the emotional rollar coaster they will take a boyfriend on is more than my career will allow.[/QUOTE]Hadez your lonely like I was after my last divorce. I found solace in the zona and got to fuck some amazing looking girls and have many pseudo relationships. They are just that "Pseudo" meaning not real or fake. Don't take any girl you meet in the zona serious. You will only be hurt and broke in the end, like so many other guys I met in the clubs in the past. As the old saying goes and still holds true "you can't turn a Hoe into a housewife"!

Yesterday Thursday was their (Bar Tropical) 24 anniversary and they dressed up all their waiters in bow tie and white shirts. Looked kind of comical. They had a legit good live band play for a while. But the quality of women was kind of low. Then one funny thing stood out. While a girl was doing her dance, a lone fool with sunglasses gets to the edge of the stage and made dollars rain. The retard looked stupider than shit. While the waiters applauded, the chicas were laughing at his stunt.

While he was Hispanic, I am guessing that he is definitely an American used to the American strip club scene and loved to draw attention to himself. I wish that more dudes would just blend in and do what Mexicans do instead of making fools of themselves. Take off the sunglasses, sit your ass down, order a bucket, relax and stop trying show off your wallet, and most importantly. Invite a lady to sit with you.

And no, it wasn't even his chica that was dancing.

You vastly underestimate my experience with sex workers.

They are not fake. They are damaged people who see us as a revenue source. Some better at managing their business than others. I can see how someone can mistake that for "fake". Guess all businesses people are "fake" in some ways when looking at it like that.

Whatever path I take make no mistake about it I am having fun. I am getting value back. It may be a path you do not take but I would suggest not to judge what you do not understand. It may preventing you from adding a small tid bit here or there that may help you even if the overall path does not meet your idea of value added.

BTW there are many definitions of housewife and many girls who would not fit into some of those definitions be they sex workers or not.

I know many house wives of friends. The more I hear about their lives the less I want one of those housewives. There is a reason just about every wingmen I have has a housewife but still goes to TJ.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2723980]Hadez your lonely like I was after my last divorce. I found solace in the zona and got to fuck some amazing looking girls and have many pseudo relationships. They are just that "Pseudo" meaning not real or fake. Don't take any girl you meet in the zona serious. You will only be hurt and broke in the end, like so many other guys I met in the clubs in the past. As the old saying goes and still holds true "you can't turn a Hoe into a housewife"![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hadez;2725592]You vastly underestimate my experience with sex workers.

They are not fake. They are damaged people who see us as a revenue source. Some better at managing their business than others. I can see how someone can mistake that for "fake". Guess all businesses people are "fake" in some ways when looking at it like that.

Whatever path I take make no mistake about it I am having fun. I am getting value back. It may be a path you do not take but I would suggest not to judge what you do not understand. It may preventing you from adding a small tid bit here or there that may help you even if the overall path does not meet your idea of value added.

BTW there are many definitions of housewife and many girls who would not fit into some of those definitions be they sex workers or not.

I know many house wives of friends. The more I hear about their lives the less I want one of those housewives. There is a reason just about every wingmen I have has a housewife but still goes to TJ.[/QUOTE]Hadez no offense meant by my statement, just trying to look out for follow mongers. All that I write is only my opinion on a topic and nothing more. As my dear departed father once told me opinions are like assholes everyone has one, they are many and varied, and all are full of shit.

[QUOTE=Hadez;2725592]You vastly underestimate my experience with sex workers.

They are not fake. They are damaged people who see us as a revenue source. Some better at managing their business than others. I can see how someone can mistake that for "fake". Guess all businesses people are "fake" in some ways when looking at it like that.

Whatever path I take make no mistake about it I am having fun. I am getting value back. It may be a path you do not take but I would suggest not to judge what you do not understand. It may preventing you from adding a small tid bit here or there that may help you even if the overall path does not meet your idea of value added.

BTW there are many definitions of housewife and many girls who would not fit into some of those definitions be they sex workers or not.

I know many house wives of friends. The more I hear about their lives the less I want one of those housewives. There is a reason just about every wingmen I have has a housewife but still goes to TJ.[/QUOTE]Look Hadez I am not here to underestimate you, and I didn't say the Prostitutes' in the zona were fake people, but the relationships you have with a puta isn't a real one and I don't think it is normal. Maybe we can see similarities between them and lets say a wife for girlfriend. Most guys that get married have to support their wife financially unless their wife is rich, then it might be the other way around and she supports him which does happen. But as a monger I know the girls are not true friends, we have a transactional relationship, I pay for her company and to have sex with her and we spend some time together. So it goes back to what is called a Pseudo relationship meaning not real. I do enjoy a pretty woman like any hertrosexual man does, though it think even gay men can appreciate the beauty of a woman as well. Don't think that because someone writes a few lines that it means he is attacking you in any way or being overly critical. In the end you are free to do whatever you want, it is your money and it is your time not mine.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2725966]Look Hadez I am not here to underestimate you, and I didn't say the Prostitutes' in the zona were fake people, but the relationships you have with a puta isn't a real one and I don't think it is normal. Maybe we can see similarities between them and lets say a wife for girlfriend. Most guys that get married have to support their wife financially unless their wife is rich, then it might be the other way around and she supports him which does happen. But as a monger I know the girls are not true friends, we have a transactional relationship, I pay for her company and to have sex with her and we spend some time together. So it goes back to what is called a Pseudo relationship meaning not real. I do enjoy a pretty woman like any hertrosexual man does, though it think even gay men can appreciate the beauty of a woman as well. Don't think that because someone writes a few lines that it means he is attacking you in any way or being overly critical. In the end you are free to do whatever you want, it is your money and it is your time not mine.[/QUOTE]We have some sensitive posters in the various Tijuana threads. If he wants to think it's a relationship with a chica he's paying, let him. If he wants to believe it's anything beyond a transaction, let him. You, me and most others on the board know better but some guys have to figure it out for themselves.