[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1359752]I think all he meant was there is no reason to be a dick about it.
AM[/QUOTE]Exactly, thanks AM.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1359752]I think all he meant was there is no reason to be a dick about it.
AM[/QUOTE]Exactly, thanks AM.
For my fellow Americans, if you are contemplating visiting an FKK, I would tell you to just do it. It is simply heaven on earth. I was at Oase tonight, and the amount of flesh was just incredible, with probably 70 to 80 girls there. They had almost any kind that you want, but only one Asian and 2 black (I would not go to an FKK if you really want non-white girls).
In America, it is simply not possible to get the FKK experience. If you watch HBO's "Bunny Ranch", which is a legal brothel in Nevada, you see the guys walk in, and the line up is probably 8 to 10 girls at the most. Most of those girls are dogs, I mean total dogs. You could not pay me to have sex with those girls. They are simply nasty and fat and old. There are about 1-2 that are descent, but rarely do you get a "hot chick". Plus, when you hear them talking about how much it costs to bang these chicks, they are charging between $1000 to $2500 USD for sex. That is the biggest rip off I have ever seen. Also, most of the women have either fat asses or are over 40 years old. Just nasty.
If you do it illegally, you risk going to jail in the USA. Plus, you will probably get some disgusting skank, who has hepatitis C, HIV, drug abuse, heroin addition, missing teeth, and a whole host of either gonorrhea, herpes, or genital warts. And rarely will they be white. Not worth it.
If you do a stupid strip club, you pay $300 USD for 30 minutes of a lap dance, then you still have to go back to your hotel room and jack off to internet porn. Totally lame.
Save your money, buy a ticket to Frankfurt, and be with hotter, better looking girls for much less money. I have been to Globe in Zurich, and I have been to Oase, Mainhattan, and Palace in Frankfurt. If you had unlimited resources consider going to Globe. I think the girls are just at little bit hotter there overall. But not by much compared to Oase. If you had one shot at doing it, then to go Oase if you're not super rich. It's worth it.
After you land in Frankfurt, take the S Bahn or ICE (long-distance train station) to Frankfurt hbf (central station). Change to the S5 and go to Friedrichsdorf. I recommend staying at the mercure freidrichsdorf. It's around $80 USD per night with breakfast. After you check in, then go get a cab to Oase. It's 10 euro each way (no tipping in Europe). Another more luxurious option is the Steigenberger Bad Homburg. The Steigenberger chain is a "old luxury" chain that is very nice. It's more expensive (around $200 to $400 USD per night) , but if you want more luxurious accomodations go there. But the Mercure has a reasonable breakfast, good hotel rooms with modern, American style electronic keys (not the old european way of the huge metallic key with the weight on it that you have to give to the front desk every time you leave) , and internet that costs 9 euro for 24hours. It's a 3-star hotel, and it's totally adequate.
Once the cab driver drops you off at Oase. 65 euro entry, and you are in heaven. You can eat, relax, and have sex with smoking hot chicks that you would never even have a chance of banging in the USA. Personally, I love the young 20 something university student or the 20 something girl who has left home to make extra money at the FKK. They have no tattoos, super soft skin, and tight little titties with small asses. Those are the best. I am not into the tattoo'd up, fake silicone tits, and bleached blonde hair look, even though they have lots of these girls there.
One strategy I have had to bang as many chicks as possible is to bang them, but don't come just yet with each chick. Sort of like the "fluffers" in a porn movie. You get worked up by these chicks, but you don't have to come. That way, you can bang about 3 to 4 chicks, then come with the one that really turns you on. Sort of like when you surf for porn. You kind of get turned on with some girls, but then you find that one really smoking chick that "does it for you", you then cum jacking off to her. Of course, if you can come 6 to 8 times in a day, the more power to you. But if can only do it about 2 to 3 times in 24 hours, consider banging a chick, but don't come. You still get the experience and memory of banging that hot chick, and you still can bang more. Think of it like the wine tasters. They spit out the wine when they taste otherwise, they would be completely drunk before they finished tasting all the time.
It is the ultimate vacation. I highly encourage anybody who has been thinking about this to do it. It is simply the most amazing thing to be in a room full of naked girls, knowing that you can bang any one of them with a moment's notice. It is a concept that we Americans simply are not used to. If you're a single guy who has the money to fly to Europe, I would highly recommend an FKK vacation. It will be like being in Heaven on Earth. I guarantee that you will not regret going to an FKK.
Has anyone in "here" had a good session with two girls?
I tried it at Artemis last time I visited, and it was not a totaly unpleasant session, but a far cry from how a imagined it to be. Not like in pornmovies, wich I should have thaught of, if a was thinking with my big head.
The constant changing of condoms when penetrating for example, was a bit of a turn of. But I off course understand why. Can't remember the names of the girls I think they had some Croatian heritage, girls who speak and come from the same place often stick togheter.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1359756]Couldn't have said it better myself. The title says 'internationalsexguide' aka a guide to getting great sex in the clubs. Not a bathing or a safe sex guide. I'm always amazed posts like this are in this section instead of the partytreff section where AO is talked about openly. You want to 'save' somebody, do so elsewhere.[/QUOTE]It's also in the partytreff section, which has been overrun by AO mongers, still it bears talking about. This is the Lounge and everything is open for discussion. He has the right to say what he wants, and if you don't like it you don't have to comment. In fact, since being tough and macho is complete bullshit on a message board, you can sit down and shut up any time.
There's Bernds, occasionally PHG and GT. Only a few places where the ladies try to make a bit more on the side. A friend I used to go to GT with won't bother any more since he caught genital warts from someone there (he goes so infrequently so he knows exactly where it came from). You don't like to be reminded of the risks. Well suck it up, bub. That attitude puts us ALL at risk. Grow up and learn.
I think you should restrict your advice to [B]male[/B] Americans. LOL!
For married men: what about bringing your wife to Germany too. Anyone ever tried to visit as an american heterosexual couple a german FKK club?
[QUOTE=Catmouse123; 1359803]For my fellow Americans, if you are contemplating visiting an FKK, I would tell you to just do it. It is simply heaven on earth. I was at Oase tonight, and the amount of flesh was just incredible, with probably 70 to 80 girls there. They had almost any kind that you want, but only one Asian and 2 black (I would not go to an FKK if you really want non-white girls).
It is the ultimate vacation. I highly encourage anybody who has been thinking about this to do it. It is simply the most amazing thing to be in a room full of naked girls, knowing that you can bang any one of them with a moment's notice. It is a concept that we Americans simply are not used to. If you're a single guy who has the money to fly to Europe, I would highly recommend an FKK vacation. It will be like being in Heaven on Earth. I guarantee that you will not regret going to an FKK.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Finite; 1360211]Has anyone in "here" had a good session with two girls?
I tried it at Artemis last time I visited, and it was not a totaly unpleasant session, but a far cry from how a imagined it to be. Not like in pornmovies, wich I should have thaught of, if a was thinking with my big head.
The constant changing of condoms when penetrating for example, was a bit of a turn of. But I off course understand why. Can't remember the names of the girls I think they had some Croatian heritage, girls who speak and come from the same place often stick togheter.[/QUOTE]Duos are difficult to arrange and have it turn out just how you imagine it to be. Myself I have had a few (never at an FKK) and only two which fully measured up to expectation. Much depends upon the girls and how they get along. Also it is harder to arrange a paid session where the girls are truly into each other so that the show part also good. My best duo was with a full lesbian, who I did not get to fuck just touch, and a bi girl who fucked me and performed with the full lesbian. Mostly it is a matter of luck though it has been discussed fairly extensively on the Artemis thread. Look for older posts by Charlie123 as he has some good tips for how to chose your girl for an FKK duo.
Oh, and using porn as a measure for sex is rarely a good idea IME. Porn is porn. Sex is sex.
AM
[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1360481]Duos are difficult to arrange and have it turn out just how you imagine it to be. Myself I have had a few (never at an FKK) and only two which fully measured up to expectation. Much depends upon the girls and how they get along. Also it is harder to arrange a paid session where the girls are truly into each other so that the show part also good. My best duo was with a full lesbian, who I did not get to fuck just touch, and a bi girl who fucked me and performed with the full lesbian. Mostly it is a matter of luck though it has been discussed fairly extensively on the Artemis thread. Look for older posts by Charlie123 as he has some good tips for how to chose your girl for an FKK duo.
Oh, and using porn as a measure for sex is rarely a good idea IME. Porn is porn. Sex is sex.
AM[/QUOTE]I've done duo sessions exactly twice (I like even numbers haha!). Once in Brazil and once in Spain, and each time I was extremely fortunate to have a porn star experience, including fucking at least one of each of the girls in the ass while the other who didn't do anal watched and / or assisted (in Spain one girl held my dick and spread her "old lady's" ass cheeks open with her other hand as the latter squatted her tight arsehole down onto my stiffy).
I am not a big duo fan. As AM pointed out in another post, there's always the risk of a bad session, and when you go duo, you kind of double that risk. Duos are expensive. A responsible monger has a budget! And, I don't have a particular fantasy about being with two girls. My fantasy is more like having FIVE bubble butt blondes in the zimmer at the same time, and fucking every last single one of them deep in the ass. Oh, maybe one day!
Seriously though, I normally take more fun out of concentrating on just one girl. When tutes come at me about doing a duo, I usually just tell them that I have only one dick for one girl. Always gets a good laugh, and is a nice kind of way of turning them down. If you are tempted, then as AM said, never go with the ones using the hire pressure sales tactics with no patience. Very likely they will disappoint (and take your money in the process!). I've only been tempted at a FKK once (Artemis). Was two blonde Polish girls, but we didn't close a deal.
I think one reason I lucked out during my only two duos was that the girls were really into each other. In Spain, they were like a couple with one of the girls clearly being the "leader" and the other the "follower". The wife. In Brazil, it wasn't quite like that, but the two were clearly quite sexually attracted to each another. When we were arranging the deal, I remember the one with the leader role telling me how well the other girl ate pussy. If you're going to do it, make sure the tutes are into each other. And bring your wallet! Lastly, I'll just note that when you have a leader and follower dynamic between the girls going on, you have to make sure to not let the leader girl take over the session.
By that, I mean make sure that you let it be known that it's YOUR session, and you want the girls to do what YOU want them to do, not what the leader girl wants done. In the first duo I did in Brazil, the leader girl was a beautiful bubble butt blonde, and a little bossy towards the cute brunette. About midway through the session, I butt fucked the big ass blonde silly while the other tute watched. The eyes of the girl who was watching got as big as 50 cent pieces, and she kept saying,"GOSTOSO! GOSTOSO!" Hahaha! Damn straight. I made it clear that I was in charge, not the boss girl. Same for the duo in Spain. The leader didn't butt fuck, so she made her "wife" serve up her asshoe to a monger. But then after that, I fucked the leader stupid right back into the stone age. Was fucking her so hard that "wifey" also had gotten big 50 cent piece eyes as she excitedly beat off her clit over what she was witnessing. Haha! I have had PSE-quality duos. Twice.
]I've had a duo once at Palace with a Turkish girl and a German girl. It was fun and a fantasy.
But not as mind-blowing as I'd imagined. My solo sessions have been much better experiences, sexually.
Still, a threesome is one most guys fantasy lists and probably worth trying.
If you want to read my detailed report search for my username and 'threesome' in the Palace thread.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1360560]This is actually the key to a good duo. Find a girl that you like and with whom you have already successfully sessioned and get her to find a friend she is into.
AM[/QUOTE]Here are a few of shots of my Brazilian dupla girls. The first duo I ever had, and it was great! Thought some guys might enjoy, even if it's not from a FKK. Something to aspire to LOL! Check out the blonde's arsehole hehehe! I plundered that! Too bad the FKKs don't have a picture taking culture. Otherwise, I would have plenty FKK pics to show as well.
[QUOTE=Catmouse123; 1359803]For my fellow Americans, if you are contemplating visiting an FKK, I would tell you to just do it. It is simply heaven on earth. I was at Oase tonight, and the amount of flesh was just incredible, with probably 70 to 80 girls there. They had almost any kind that you want, but only one Asian and 2 black (I would not go to an FKK if you really want non-white girls).
In America, it is simply not possible to get the FKK experience. If you watch HBO's "Bunny Ranch", which is a legal brothel in Nevada, you see the guys walk in, and the line up is probably 8 to 10 girls at the most. Most of those girls are dogs, I mean total dogs. You could not pay me to have sex with those girls. They are simply nasty and fat and old. There are about 1-2 that are descent, but rarely do you get a "hot chick". Plus, when you hear them talking about how much it costs to bang these chicks, they are charging between $1000 to $2500 USD for sex. That is the biggest rip off I have ever seen. Also, most of the women have either fat asses or are over 40 years old. Just nasty.
If you do it illegally, you risk going to jail in the USA. Plus, you will probably get some disgusting skank, who has hepatitis C, HIV, drug abuse, heroin addition, missing teeth, and a whole host of either gonorrhea, herpes, or genital warts. And rarely will they be white. Not worth it.
If you do a stupid strip club, you pay $300 USD for 30 minutes of a lap dance, then you still have to go back to your hotel room and jack off to internet porn. Totally lame.
Save your money, buy a ticket to Frankfurt, and be with hotter, better looking girls for much less money. I have been to Globe in Zurich, and I have been to Oase, Mainhattan, and Palace in Frankfurt. If you had unlimited resources consider going to Globe. I think the girls are just at little bit hotter there overall. But not by much compared to Oase. If you had one shot at doing it, then to go Oase if you're not super rich. It's worth it.[/QUOTE]Right on brother. US chicks are expensive and there is always the threat of your name being plastered on the local papers during a bust. Even with the entry fee included, one session is similar in price to asian massage parlor but you're getting a girl who is way hotter than some 40-50 year old Korean.
I've been lurking on these boards for several months. Thanks to everyone for all the information provided.
FKKs are definitely a wow for a guy from the US. I've pretty much stop partaking in the US since taking my first trip to Germany back in July. Been back several times but will have to start pacing myself for fear of breaking the bank.
The descriptions provided on this forum have been extremely helpful. Just a disclaimer that I like them mid 20s or younger and slim to average. At this stage of my FKK career, I'm more into optifuck.
Oase – First FKK. Now that I've been to other places, I realize their facilities and food is really not good. The lockers and shower is disgusting relatively speaking. This is a good option for one new to FKK since the girls approach you. However this place really is a colony of Romania. Some Romanian girls are hot but generally, they are just not my type.
Mainhattan – Nice small club. I personally like the lineup here more than Oase. Met Emma, a nice Italian brunette. Standard service but she is smoking hot.
Yin Yang – No Romanians but didn't really like the lineup at all. It was a Monday and I went here because Goldentime's parking was full. However, they had a BBQ and the food wasn't too bad.
Planet Happy Garden – Small club. Exactly as described by a recent post. Some girls there just hang out waiting for their regular; only time where I was turned down. Guess she doesn't love euros that much. A couple of great looking girls (including the one that turned me down). Food was pretty good. Freshly cooked whole shrimps.
Dolce Vita – Another small club but pretty good entry fee. Nice facilities but I didn't like the lineup too much. Same as Yin Yang and didn't go with anybody. All day buffet.
Golden Time – This place does have the best lineup overall. My gold standard where other places are judged. Great facilities especially in the summer. Best food in all the places listed here especially their cook to order eggs. However, its success is also its biggest problem. Unless you get there early, parking is a problem. As others have mentioned, it does feel like a gay club even on weekdays during peak hours with the number of guys exceeding the number of girls. If you don't smoke, be warned that smoke is unavoidable especially in the winter. As indicating on this forum, they are associated with Living Room and a same day discount is available at Living Room (vice versa) when you request the discount card from Golden Time. Dropped significant euros here on several occasions. At least two regular Asians here if you have an Asian fetish.
Polish girl (forgot her name) – changed from redhead to brunette. She always hangs out at the intersection at the exit of the bar and the passageway at the garden. She's witty and verbally direct when you encounter her.
Larissa – tall leggy Romanian redhead with extensions. Pretty good BBBJ.
Contessa? – Middle eastern mix curly brunette – 18-19 year old spinner. Smoking hot. Used to work at Magnum.
Gia – Bulgarian. She is just a doll. Really nice girl. Her real name is tattooed in hieroglyphics on her right shoulder blade. She seems to be pretty popular at GT.
Living Room – Lineup not as good as Golden Time. Not as crowded. Smoke is also unavoidable in the winter. Food is as good as GT.
Villa Vertigo – I didn't get too much of a good vibe according to the reviews but I had a very good time here on Friday. Came in shortly after open and stayed till early evening. Facilities are great. I like the smoking and non-smoking bars. Most girls hang out in the smoking bar so if you want to rest, there are couches in the non-smoking side. The lineup is very good and comparable to GT with GT having a slight lead. WiFi is horrible here. Also saw two Asians here.
Oksana – straw blond mid 20s slim Russian. Conservative in the bar but turns into a nymph in the zimmer. Small breasts but just her areolas are just the perfect size and color and contrasts quite well against her white skin. I know most of you guys like DATY but I don't for personal reasons. As a result I think most girls don't really get anything out of session with me other than euros. Oksana really seems to enjoy the sex. She was having orgasms without DATY. At first I thought she was faking it but the girl can't fake the scent her pussy produces when she is aroused. On some girls, I find this scent nauseous and causes me to lost focus but her scent was quite appealing. She even thanked me afterwards.
Nicole – dirty blond Bulgarian. Great 19-year old body. She didn't orgasm but she did get arouse without DATY. Now her scent caused me to lose concentration. Couldn't finish but had a good time talk to her.
Angie – brunette from Roma – A bit curvier than average but pretty face. Pesters a bit trying to drum up business. Does shallow anal. Friendly overall but wouldn't repeat; not really my type.
Acapulco – At Oase, you'll have to get the girls' hands off junior while they aggressively try to get you into a zimmer. Acapulco is on the other end of the spectrum. The girls do not approach you. The other clubs listed here are somewhere in between Oase and Acapulco. As someone mentioned before, the layout of the couches in half the room while the other half is the bar just creates a distinct dividing line between the men and women and gives the feeling you're shopping at a bazaar. Also the pool just shouldn't be located where it is. The lineup is not bad. Entry fee is low.
Auerila (sp?) – slim Russian / Romanian blond. Early 20s. One of the nicest girls I've met. Really soft skin and lips (the pair upstairs). Very good BBBJ. However I'm sure some guys wouldn't like her too much as she indicated that she's picky about her clients.
With me being a foreigner in NRW, can anybody recommend a place for traditional German fare (Gegrillte Schweinshaxe, Schnitzel Wiener etc) on those non FKK evenings? When I'm in Frankfurt, I usually go to Apfelwein Wagner.
Thanks
FWIW, an old experience of mine. I share much of the stance of The Cane, I don't have any special fantasies about duos, if I do they're about lots of girls at once. But I had one session years ago, and it was awesome. It was at an upscale German apartment place that is history. Had a date with a German girl I sessioned before, reddish brunette cute girl. She was the kind of rare, very empathic, accomodating and caring personality who could convince you of a lot of things. So we talked about what were going to do, and she suggested a duo. When I entered the place before another girl blonde big tit Austrian introduced herself nicely, but I had to decline her because I already had a date, but I was really attracted to her. But I also really wanted to be with the German girl. So somehow we agreed on me having an hour with the German girl and the Austrian would join after 30 mins. So I MPOSed and so forth the German girl first, she was great, she was very well known as an outstanding performer. Then the Austrian joined and they went alternating rounds DFK and BBBJ then the Austrian rode me while the German was DFKing. The Austrian was also a very hard fucker, cannot remember any girl ever putting more pressure on during her knocks in cowgirl. After a while the German was "fuck me again X, fuck me again". I declined and banged the Austrian in doggy to explosion and she was wet all over her body and screaming while the German was cuddling me from behind. The German insisted afterwards that the Austrian had a real orgasm. Probably true, not that I care too much, but it was a sound session. She also told me she could not believe that I rejected her, LOL. Never had a duo again, did not feel like it and all the offers at FKKs are usually far from attractive and simply serve to delete a girl off the list if she was on it.
Sorry, forgot to add the duo pics. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Yakob; 1356872]I expect to be around for Silvester in the clubs so I have these clubs listed as having a Silvester party on 31 December 2012:
Acapulco.
Golden Dreams.
Oase (times 5pm to 5am)
Palace.
Planet Happy Garden.
Sharks[/QUOTE]Okay we are talking about Silvester and for me this is a big party with friends. Christmas is for the family.
So I know there are guys that always ask which party to go to when there are more than one event on at the same time. Just like today there is the Oase Christmas party and the Sharks Christmas party on 15 December. I no go to party since I have cultural shit to go to. So I know I have Silvester and it is no puddy cat. It is a big decision since the friend and the colleague always asks where and what did you do for the Silvester.
So I look at my 6 options.
I no fan of Acapulco. I think the services there are sub standard since the girl feel like they go through the motions when you are book them. It is like you are both there but the lights are no on. Food at Acapulco is catastrophe and you pays for the beers or are limited to the beer. I am not sure what the pricing is for the event.
No idea about Golden Dreams. Small club.
Planet Happy Garden. I no fan of their Romanian gypsy heavy line up. I struggle to find a girl I like. There are a contingent of black girls though for the man that like that.
Oase is a good option. There is 85€ entry and it open at 5pm. Already my friend is lobbying we no go there. I no hear of any incentives for girls to work Silvester, but Oase has a captive catchment of girls that live in the club and many girls no make enough money to go home to Romania or their managers or pimp no allow them to leave since they are no making financial targets so maybe there is a decent line up. I mean if you are not making targets at your work usually your vacation is cancelled or you work overtime. Same parallel.
Sharks cost 100€ entry and it open at 4pm. Line up at 3:30pm to get in. The club is offering girls that work from 20 Dec to 6 Dec continously that they get 1200€ so there is incentive that girls work Silvester and it not a wash out for girls. The food at Sharks is not the best. I been at their parties before and it is billed as celebratory but it like the food my aunty make from the stuff from Lidl. I prefer Rewe.
Palace cost 75€ entry and I think probably opens at 6pm. Best line up at 5:30pm to get in. Girls have incentive of free entry this night to ensure that there is a line up in attendance. I like the Palace facilities and the food is excellent and on par with Mainhattan. Okay, the girls may ask for 100€ for half hour for GFE but you can always decline and be strong and pick the girl that will do all for 50€. Expect it to be quick but there are girls that give the good service. There are many girls that are ex World or Ex Oase that work the Palace now and remember their past good service provision.
So I need to think some more but these are just a few factors in helping others to make the same decision that I am trying to make.
Other than GT and ACA, which club (s) in the NRW region would have the most girls from a Sunday to Tuesday afternoon?