[QUOTE=Optimist;2029668] Quite right. I always campaign against tipping for the reasons you say. But like all rules there are times to bend them. Maybe I should not have but I did as the service (if not the looks) was at the top of the pyramid.
You are right: I am almost fanatical in my objections to up selling and the effect of tipping on the eco system. I do tip occasionally but increasingly rarely.[/QUOTE]I wasn't criticizing, Opti, as I myself have tipped on a few occasions before but a very long time ago when I first started going to these clubs. Guys however may take the view that it is their own money and they should be able to do what they please with it, without being preached to.
What I've found personally is that there is zero benefit to me from tipping. The girls are rarely truly appreciative and they never remember your largess for any length of time. The normal reaction is one of " Well OK, if he wants to give me extra then I would be a fool not to take it". The sort of reaction that you would give if you were walking down a street and there was some guy handing out free DVDs on the street corner. You would take as many as he is giving away but halfway down the street you wouldn't even remember what he looked like. Your thoughts would be turning to whether there was another giveaway around the corner. This is essentially how the girls think.
The only possible advantage for tipping I think is that it makes you feel good in the moment. The empowerment feeling that you get because you have the money and therefore the power to make the girls really happy. But the girls are only happy for a few minutes before their thoughts turn to finding the next customer. There is also the moral 'high' that you get because you think that you are 'doing good' in some way. But we are supposed to be mongers, not do-gooders.
There were girls who I have tipped before and when I return to Germany they smile when they see me. But it soon becomes clear that they smiled because they remember my face and the fact that I had visited before and was now returning but had clearly forgotten that I had given them a tip in the past. These girls see so many guys per month, per week and even per day. They quickly forget.
Unfortunately tipping does not fit well with the German low cost consumer culture. In Germany 30 euros is a hell of a lot of money. Especially for these girls. You can stay in a hotel for a day or eat for a week on 30 euros. If these girls are getting a minimum of 4 or 5+ customers every day at 30 euros each then they are earning way above the German pay average. The girls that I tend to be attracted to are the ones with at least this sort of turnover. Tipping them would not have much effect as they are already making more than enough money. You just need to be able to grab them when they become available and be ready to point and shoot when you get the opportunity so they can be on to the next.
On one of my first visits to these RTCs I gave a 5 euro tip to thekefrau when leaving the club and she gave me a look of concern, almost panic, as if I had misunderstood things and thought that I had to pay on the way out as well the entrance fee. So tipping is not expected or needed in these places.
On another occasion I had gone with several different girls over a few visits to a particular club. One unattractive girl kept pestering me each visit because she saw me going with other girls but always overlooking her. Unfortunately she was just way too unattractive to contemplate engaging, not even for a mercy fuck. On one visit when I was leaving I felt a bit sorry for her so I handed her a 20 euro note. I expected an excited reaction but she looked at it suspiciously as if to say 'what's this for? She had reasonable grasp of English so I told her it was a tip but she just shrugged her shoulders as if to say 'OK, whatever!" and stuffed it into her handbag without another word.
The only way tipping would work for me is if I had the tendency to see the same girl all the time. If she performed particularly well on occasion then I would give her a tip. This would keep her trying hard in the hope of a bonus. However if I got into the habit of regularly tipping her then she would come to expect it whatever happened. So sex would end up always being more expensive than it would do otherwise.
However I get my thrills from trying completely new pussy. Usually a repeat visit with a girl is never as exciting as the first time around when you are experiencing something new. Rather than going with a few girls and paying each well I would prefer to go with many girls and pay standard rates.
If you are a big tipper the other girls may not always find out and give you special attention. Girls do not always boast to others about how they got extra money and it may be in their interests not to, in case the other girls find out and start targeting that girls 'cash cow'. However if a guy goes to the rooms often with different girls then this always get noticed by the other girls. They will assume that this guy is a big spender and will be positioning themselves so that they can be the one chosen next.
A guy who sifts through the girls carefully and never pays more than what he needs to so that he gets value for money is respected by the girls, because he is seen as sensible. However, a guy who throws his money around needlessly is seen as just a bit of a fool who the girls will have plenty of fun tak.
