Kyiv

[QUOTE=JohnCrichton; 1460675]LJ,

I'm saying this with respect as you're a senior member around here. USGrant is not Alex. I know Alex too. I hired him a few years ago in to take me around Kiev, and last year to arrange a week-long bachelor party for a friend of mine. You have some good points regarding guides, but if a less experienced traveler wanted to hire one for Kiev or somewhere else in Ukraine Alex really would be the way to go.

JCrichton[/QUOTE]Eureka! I better book this Alex right away. Must book Alex. Must book Alex. Must book Alex. Must book Alex. Must book Alex.

John & co, we get it. Alex is the best guide. Anyone coming here can see that now. So let us not keep going on about him like a bunch of old and senile mongers. Point proven and now you can let go of this super guide of yours. If you do not agree, I suggest you start a thread named "The best guides in Kiev (that can not provide females)" and post his name there once a week. In that thread, you could also state what makes him so special. Apparently he lifts a visit to Kiev to new levels, and clearly he is someone most of us need, even if we did not realized it yet. Life in Kiev is one long party with Alex on the payroll. Everything works. And he does week-long bachelor parties for mystery friends. The only way for hopeless guys like me to really understand the power of Alex, is to have him fully covered in a thread of his own. The added value of Alex should be thoroughly documented, but not in the general Kiev thread. Let us get some real life examples with facts, dates and other hard data into that thread. In the end this is what counts, right?

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[QUOTE=JohnCrichton; 1460675]LJ,

I'm saying this with respect as you're a senior member around here. USGrant is not Alex. I know Alex too. I hired him a few years ago in to take me around Kiev, and last year to arrange a week-long bachelor party for a friend of mine. You have some good points regarding guides, but if a less experienced traveler wanted to hire one for Kiev or somewhere else in Ukraine Alex really would be the way to go.

From your writings though, I am going to try out Buddha Bar next time I'm in Kiev.

JCrichton[/QUOTE]Dear JohnCrichton,

I appreciate the "respect" and the gentle tone of your writing. But, for all I know you could simply be another profile created by Alex himself to promote his own services. You have very few posts on this forum, which suggests a profile recently created for the purpose of writing what you just wrote to promote Alex the guide.

It would be different if a member who has hundreds of detailed action reports going back years in other mongering destinations, reported about a guide he used in Kiev. There would be a little more credibility. But, I'm sorry to say that I remain unconvinced by your post. Neither you, nor USGrant have posted the kind of details in an action report that could validate you as real mongers. The mere generalized lauding, continuously and frequently, of the Alex the guide, over and over, is plainly advertising and promotion.

I would like to see you, and USGrant and Alex, post actual action reports which contain details, and contain actual helpful information to other mongers. This is what's missing from your posts, and the lack thereof betrays you as a mere advertisement.

I don't speak Russian, and I have read this forum and learned the basic information needed to find girls in Kiev for p4p, adding a little of my own ingenuity and skills to further my goals. I have had a terrific time doing it. I reiterate that my position is that no one needs a guide to get p4p girls and escorts in Kiev, as this is something that anyone can do on their own. It would really be wasteful in my opinion to spend money on a guide to do things that are easily doable for yourself.

That being said, I am aware that there are people who do love to waste money on expenditures that make things easier for them, which they consider value, and not wasteful, because it relieved them from exertions to do it themselves. I suppose there would be a market for a machine which would bring escorts on a conveyor belt and automatically place them on your dick, and all you had to do is come to Kiev and just lay there. Or a restaurant in which all you had to do is park your carcass in a chair there and open your mouth, and a machine would do the rest and stuff everything you like down your throat for you. But most people enjoy the doing of things for themselves.

What can I say? To each his own. So I agree that if there are people who like to pay for a guide, even if they are aware that they could do it themselves, then that's fine. The key is that they were made AWARE of the fact of how easy it is to do it themselves, and how many others are doing it themselves. As long as they are aware of that, and still choose to use a guide, then it's their "informed" choice.

But as to the question of whether Alex is actually qualified, I would want to see more details and helpful information in reports emanating from someone praising Alex, so that the veteran mongers can evaluate the information and insight coming from the guide, and see whether it is valid and helpful. Until then all we know is that he can take your money, but not really whether he can produce!

Fuck Mamba for blocking me all the time, with not specified reason. Like an old grumpy poodle that bites you arbitrarily. I unblocked the profile twice before but now I can not send a message to them.

[QUOTE=SkiNautique;1460438]I'm new here and will read your posts. I plan to arrive in September. When the crowds go home and the ladies get beck to school.[/QUOTE]Sorry to say, I quit going home. I just stay. And sorry again, I will leave none virgin ones for you!

If you feel like doing what I did before, welcome to Kiev. Haha!

[QUOTE=JohnCrichton; 1460664]Loquito. And everybody else on the forum. I know of a truly excellent guide for Kiev. His name is Alex, he's Ukrainian with an excellent command of English. He's very professional, knows the city extremely well, and will take good care of you. I say this in all seriousness, I met him a few years ago during my first time in Kiev and the trip was 1000x better because of it.

He knows the P4P scene and can help you out. Please PM me and I will happily pass his email address over to you.[/QUOTE]I contacted him once. We wanted to $200US a day plus gas money.

Too rich for my blood but I got nothing against guys that can afford it.

[QUOTE=YellowPaul; 1461215]I contacted him once. We wanted to $200US a day plus gas money.

Too rich for my blood but I got nothing against guys that can afford it.[/QUOTE]Kiev is just not the city to hire guides. Nightlife is concentrated in the center, just about all walkable and dominated by foreigners.

Be careful of any personal services in Kiev. Dating, education, and tour guides are all prone to scam.

[QUOTE=Barba;1461173]Fuck Mamba for blocking me all the time, with not specified reason. Like an old grumpy poodle that bites you arbitrarily. I unblocked the profile twice before but now I can not send a message to them.[/QUOTE]I have the same problem and still wonder / asking the experts for other options. Much better if free of charge as it was Mamba in previous time

[QUOTE=Sponsor74;1461339]I have the same problem and still wonder / asking the experts for other options. Much better if free of charge as it was Mamba in previous time[/QUOTE]Just send an e-mail to administrator with your apologies and tell them you didn't aware of the rules that you didn't obey. Wait for a few days. That s all you have to do. They will remove the block for you if you can be convictive.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1461361]Just send an e-mail to administrator with your apologies and tell them you didn't aware of the rules that you didn't obey. Wait for a few days. That s all you have to do. They will remove the block for you if you can be convictive.[/QUOTE]This worked twice in the past, but have you encountered the new "IP ban" they implemented? How do you message Mamba admin if you can not even log in? I emailed what I thought was their address and it did not bounce, but still no reaction.

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[QUOTE=Barba; 1461437]This worked twice in the past, but have you encountered the new "IP ban" they implemented? How do you message Mamba admin if you can not even log in? I emailed what I thought was their address and it did not bounce, but still no reaction.

B[/QUOTE]I was banned also with the "IP ban" few weeks ago. I was just about to call my ISP and have my IP address reset when I could log in again. Mamba send a message in system to say it was a mistake that I was banned. They also gave me some "currency" as apology. So, give it another day or so to see if it reset. If not, call your ISP to have your ip address reset (or use a free wifi to login to complain).

Good luck Barba, learn a lot from your posts.

Ok, prices for strip clubs and this is pretty accurate.

Penthouse, Rio is 350 dollars for three hours.

Dolls, Arena, SG is 300 dollars for two hours.

Paradise, millennium are 500 dollars for three hours.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1461361]Just send an e-mail to administrator with your apologies and tell them you didn't aware of the rules that you didn't obey. Wait for a few days. That s all you have to do. They will remove the block for you if you can be convictive.[/QUOTE]Thanks for answer but my query is if there is another messenger system nowadays better than Mamba. In my opinion Mamba is the only one and therefore all these new problems for some users

Thanks Doc. IP ban was lifted but they messaged me telling that they will not lift the block. Guess Barba needs to surf through Tor and make a new profile then.

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[QUOTE=Castonthis; 1461800]Ok, prices for strip clubs and this is pretty accurate.

Penthouse, Rio is 350 dollars for three hours.

Dolls, Arena, SG is 300 dollars for two hours.

Paradise, millennium are 500 dollars for three hours.[/QUOTE]I arrived in Kiev yesterday, but was preoccupied with bonking mamba girls, and didn't have the time to stop in to Rio. To clarify your report which you say is "pretty accurate", are you reporting here on this thread that Rio raised the price of the three hour take out date from the longstanding price of $300 USD, which has been the price for several years, to a new price of $350/3hrs?

If you are reporting accurately, then that's a piece of news.

Today met with Elenaatmamba $100 / hr in the afternoon. Exhausted from travel, I went to sleep after the truly gorgeous Elena left at 6pm. And Valeria from hot-modals for three hours at 600 UAH per from 3:00 am-6:00am. Must catch a few hours sleep before mamba girl arrives by train from a town three hours away for a sleepover.

I will try to check out Rio price if I can get there Friday or Saturday nights to see what's happening to prices.

LJ

By the way, the girl I saw last night from top-modals. Com for three hours at 600 UAH / hr ($75) , she was listed as Valeria,"real photos", wearing a black mesh body suit in the photos and looked like she had a really good body: the girl who answered spoke impeccable English and claimed she was Valeria, the girl in the photos.

Not. It was not a true picture. The girl who showed up had very poor English skills. But she had quite pretty eyes and face with a nice body. So I kept her for three hours (the time necessary to break in the various pieces of furniture in the new apartment I rented by seeing which couch or bed I liked fucking her on the most___ LOL.) I had a great time with her.

Barba. When are you planning to go to North Cyprus per TheKnight's recommendations? It would be an honor to share some adventures with you if our dates coincide.

Kirch. Looking forward to meeting you in Kiev. My FKK Germany foray is September 22-25. It will be great to hear your insights on the FKK clubs in the Dusseldorf-Cologne region, as my familiarity is more with Frankfurt area FKK's Oase and Palace.

LJ