Sao Paulo Reports

One of the joys about Brazil, besides the bunda & buceta, is it's culture. Being the other big country impacted by African slavery, it's useful to see the ways it is and is not similar to the US. Racism still exists in Brazil (I. E. Brancas have more money) but it's not so rigidly enforced on colorist lines. Rovnak and Kcrl01 had some interesting comments (with pics!) in Dec '18 on this if you want to search for it. ABG told me once that in Brazil everybody fucked everybody else Europeans, Africans, Natives and Asians, leading to the rich mixture you see on the street. One of the main reasons I prefer Brazil to Colombia. I love my paisas but get bored with the sameness, no matter how hot, after awhile.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2576838]What Americans and Europeans consider white is different than what Brazilians call white. I listened to a podcast about this a few months ago and it clarified some of the ethnic differences one sees among Brazilians.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2576803]To this day, I still often get confused at times, as the catagories of appearance/ethnic groups, are vast within the Brazilian Culture. And don't me started on several of the sub-catagories like branca-morena or morena-clara.

Like WyattEarp, Photoacompanhantes, also associates [B]'morena'[/B] as hair color. I've always associated it, more with ethnicity/skin color. Perhaps it's both?

BTW, I found the best policy, is to as the women, how they see themselves, as they've often been very offended when I thought they were something else.[/QUOTE]Funny you said that. Let the Brasileiras self-identify themselves if they do at all. One time I was with this beautiful, tall, samba queen escort. She kept referring to herself as a mulata. Then I met a working girl that was definitely a bit darker who was offended when I said mulata. I think she was fine with being called a morena.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2577113]I am not familiar with Miruna's staff or their lineup at all since I only been there a handful of times. Are you saying that Manu was telling the girls to be disrespectful to their clients? I actually had a session with her and can't imagine she would do that based on how she treated me and my friend.[/QUOTE]Yeah, hard to believe I know. For a long time I thought the same as you. She was clever, that was how she was able to stay in a position of responsibility for so long. But she was making the business lose money. I think things have picked up a lot since she was demoted.

In a way I am sad to know what was going on. But in another way it's better to know than not to know.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2576625]...You strike me as the kind of monger who is strongly driven by price, and not so much by optics....[/QUOTE]You are absolutely wrong here. I am driven by value for money. I am not one to run to a venue that is a tourist trap. My favorite destination is Germany where I monger with the Germans. The best optics can be found in FKKs. I have found great optics in China, Thailand and Indonesia at reasonable prices. Very few countries can beat Argentina for optics IMHO where I mongered frequently up to 2010 and many other countries. I have done optics ad nauseum and actually don't need to go to the most expensive of them all, Scandallo, for hotness, I have been there (hotsville), done that. I really don't even need to go to Scandallo. However, I plan to go in my next trip to see if all the wanking I did on the favorable reports were worth it, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2577290]You are absolutely wrong here. I am driven by value for money. I am not one to run to a venue that is a tourist trap. My favorite destination is Germany where I monger with the Germans. The best optics can be found in FKKs. I have found great optics in China, Thailand and Indonesia at reasonable prices. Very few countries can beat Argentina for optics IMHO where I mongered frequently up to 2010 and many other countries. I have done optics ad nauseum and actually don't need to go to the most expensive of them all, Scandallo, for hotness, I have been there (hotsville), done that. I really don't even need to go to Scandallo. However, I plan to go in my next trip to see if all the wanking I did on the favorable reports were worth it, LOL.[/QUOTE]I was basing it off the fact that you said you would fuck even a 5 on your own personal scale, but I guess that was more about what was available than price. But still, you should be more than happy enough to stick with the clinicas since 6's and below are mostly what's at the majority of them IMHO, and you don't mind going there. I will not fuck anybody below a 7 on my own scale, I don't care what's available. I would rather just walk away and save it for another day LOL. Right, you don't [B]need[/B] to go to Scandallo. They have plenty of business anyway from plenty of people, most of them being Brazilians and not tourists like me. So any suggestion that Scandallo is a "tourist trap" is incorrect.

When will Casarao open back up? Last trip I spend almost every night here. I am thinking I might have to splurge and just do Scandallo every night.

Where in the world would you go to monger this summer? The top pick is currently SP but open to feedback.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2576786]On a different note, Rio is a much better city for very obvious reasons. If Scandallo weren't here, I would see no reason to ever come to Sao Paulo. For the newbie monger on a 10 day trip, I'd say spend 7 days in Rio then 3 days in Sao Paulo. During those 3 days, set up shop at Scandallo and get all the poison out.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting observation. I'm a newbie monger, first time trip booked to Brazil. My current plan is to spend 3 days in SP, go to Scandallo on a Thursday, Friday and maybe Saturday night while spending the daytime at the Clinicas. Then head to Rio on Sunday morning, maybe do some sightseeing that day as a rest day to get some energy back. Then visit MonteCarlo, Centaurus, and 4 X 4 between Monday and Tuesday, and then head back to SP on Wednesday, and repeat the Scandallo maybe nightly until I leave on Saturday night.

What do you think about my nefarious plans? I have hotels booked and just need to book my flight from SP to Rio. Any feedback is appreciated.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2577454]This is an interesting observation. I'm a newbie monger, first time trip booked to Brazil. My current plan is to spend 3 days in SP, go to Scandallo on a Thursday, Friday and maybe Saturday night while spending the daytime at the Clinicas. Then head to Rio on Sunday morning, maybe do some sightseeing that day as a rest day to get some energy back. Then visit MonteCarlo, Centaurus, and 4 X 4 between Monday and Tuesday, and then head back to SP on Wednesday, and repeat the Scandallo maybe nightly until I leave on Saturday night.

What do you think about my nefarious plans? I have hotels booked and just need to book my flight from SP to Rio. Any feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sounds like quite the plan if your budget can handle it. Just have a backup plan ready in case SP goes into another lockdown.

I plan on heading down for work in August and will do my usual one night stay in Rio for 4 x4 and then head to SP for three nights of Scandello provided that SP and Scandello are both open for normal business. If not, I will extend my stay in Rio.

I'd do 7 days in Rio and 3 in Sao Paulo. I'd show up to Rio on a Sunday and leave Rio the following Sunday for SP. Some clinicas are open in SP on Sundays. I'd do Monday-Wednesday at Scandallo then fly back home on Wednesday night on a red eye flight. There's nothing to do in SP except eat, shop, and monger. Do you count travel days as part of your 10 days?

I just wrote a newbie's guide in the Rio forum that may answer some of your questions. If I have the time, I'll write something up about Sao Paulo.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2577454]This is an interesting observation. I'm a newbie monger, first time trip booked to Brazil. My current plan is to spend 3 days in SP, go to Scandallo on a Thursday, Friday and maybe Saturday night while spending the daytime at the Clinicas. Then head to Rio on Sunday morning, maybe do some sightseeing that day as a rest day to get some energy back. Then visit MonteCarlo, Centaurus, and 4 X 4 between Monday and Tuesday, and then head back to SP on Wednesday, and repeat the Scandallo maybe nightly until I leave on Saturday night.

What do you think about my nefarious plans? I have hotels booked and just need to book my flight from SP to Rio. Any feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2577454]This is an interesting observation. I'm a newbie monger, first time trip booked to Brazil. My current plan is to spend 3 days in SP, go to Scandallo on a Thursday, Friday and maybe Saturday night while spending the daytime at the Clinicas. Then head to Rio on Sunday morning, maybe do some sightseeing that day as a rest day to get some energy back. Then visit MonteCarlo, Centaurus, and 4 X 4 between Monday and Tuesday, and then head back to SP on Wednesday, and repeat the Scandallo maybe nightly until I leave on Saturday night.

What do you think about my nefarious plans? I have hotels booked and just need to book my flight from SP to Rio. Any feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]This is not a monger's recommendation, but also a traveler's recommendation. When flying to two nearby destinations, it's best to cut out the back and forth whenever possible. Origin-SP-Rio-Home or Origin-Rio-SP-Home The more flights you add in the middle of your trip the more likely you will deal with delays. I realize flying between Sao Paulo and Rio is relatively easy. However, things can go wrong. Even if your flying home from Rio and you have to still have a layover in SP, a delay is only eating into your travel time for your return not your time on the ground.

It seems like your schedule is Scandallo-centric. It appears you want to be at Scandallo at the best times of the week on both ends of your trip. Fair enough. I'm not sure it's worth it though. TiaV is right. There is more to do in Rio outside mongering.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2577403]They have plenty of business anyway from plenty of people, most of them being Brazilians and not tourists like me. So any suggestion that Scandallo is a "tourist trap" is incorrect.[/QUOTE]I reacted to that the same way. Scandallo is not a "tourist trap". It is not a club for foreigners.

In my opinion, a mongering tourist trap could have several meanings. Those clip joints that take advantage of unsuspecting guests with ridiculous bills could be one. The other are the sex venues around the globe which seem to attract foreign men. Thailand and the Philippines quickly comes to mind. The former Help Disco was another venue which was dominated by foreigners. Most of the time I find the value for the quality is very reasonable. Of course, back in the 2000's someone was probably saying here "I'll never pay Help prices. The same girls work in the prives!

Whether a venue has many foreigners or few foreigners, the best looking working girls migrate to the venues where they can make the most money.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2577580]There's nothing to do in SP except eat, shop, and monger.[/QUOTE]Uh? You ask for more than that? I do not. It's all I need! In fact I can skip the shopping. Eat drink fuck sleep repeat. I’m good. Kkkkkkk.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2577647]Uh? You ask for more than that? I do not. It's all I need! In fact I can skip the shopping. Eat drink fuck sleep repeat. Im good. Kkkkkkk.[/QUOTE]This is my current thinking about a vacation. They way I see it I'm only currently interested in seeing some of the Rio touristy sights like Christ The Redeemer. But in SP isn't the mongering so extensive that multiple days are needed?

As far as budget, I currently pay about $400 USD per hour in sessions, which I've been doing at least once a week (I know WTF is wrong with me), so even if I go to SP and visit Scandallo almost night I feel it would be wash on what I spend here in the US.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2577454]. . . My current plan is to spend 3 days in SP . . . Then head to Rio . . .

What do you think about my nefarious plans? . . . [/QUOTE]Your travel plans for visiting both cities sound fine. But as pointed out, the back-and-fourth, does cut into your "fun-time". My only quibble, with your plans, is not visiting Rio, on at least a Thursday night (typically the best night for 4 x4 and Rio termas).

I assume you're flying between Rio and SP (to both domestic airports), so you'll only need to allocate a 1/3 of a day for travel. So if you book an early morning flight out of each city, then you'll still have much of the day left as "fun-time".

So consider staying in SP (and check out other clinicas, venues on Rua Augusta on Sun, Mon), until like early Tuesday morning to Rio and on the way back stay in Rio until like early Friday morning, for your last night hooray, hurrah at Scandallo, before you leave on Sat.

If you don't mind the world wind, taxis, airplanes, hotels, check-in, check-out, traveling style you'll encounter, going from SP-Rio-SP between the 10-days of your trip, then go for it. You should enjoy plenty of fun, between the two cities. At the very least, it will give you a brief insight, into both cities.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2577663]This is my current thinking about a vacation. They way I see it I'm only currently interested in seeing some of the Rio touristy sights like Christ The Redeemer. But in SP isn't the mongering so extensive that multiple days are needed?

As far as budget, I currently pay about $400 USD per hour in sessions, which I've been doing at least once a week (I know WTF is wrong with me), so even if I go to SP and visit Scandallo almost night I feel it would be wash on what I spend here in the US.[/QUOTE]You and I sound similar budget wise, so yes, go to Scandalo nightly. Whereas sex once a week at $400 on the home front gets the job done, when in SP you need to go crazy. My first trip I did Scandalo, Casarao, Tangará, outcall, and repeated my Casarao girl all in 24 hours. LOL. Now that was batshit crazy but you should plan to tag 8-10 girls if you spend a week in SP. Two a day is easy and sooo worth it. You will be glad you fucked your dick off. So hot. So affectionate. And the spectacle of Scandalo with a bit of dancing and drinking and DFK before the room. Oooooh. Can't beat it. Leverage it while you have it. You can sleep when your dead.