Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=MilesToGo; 1124447]. Reminder to self. Why OG's may cost more than a lady is openly selling herself.

Then also along with getting too comfortable with both of them, trying / avoiding them crossing same time / space.

Nothing like a angry thai lady. See what happens in their soapy shows! [/QUOTE]Yeah I know all about Thai ladies and their skills with the scissors. The og is leaving for the US in a few months for work so I just want to have some fun while she's here. I've thought about the main hotels but 3000 baht for a couple of hours is paaang mak mak. I'm going to check out some of the karaoke places and will report back what I find.

Presently in Pattaya, wrote my very first two reports from there yesterday night. Before going to P, I spent 4+6 days in BKK, my first visit to LOS.

Came here well prepared from reading everything written in the forum during the last two years. Thank you everybody for all valuable reports!

Came here with a detailed plan, knowing that I could very well change it. Since my time was so limited, and that I am not very likely to return, I wanted a plan that would involve low risk for bad or mediocre experiences. After careful studies even outside of ISG, my plan was to see a few carefully selected independent escorts, with solid reviews, plus some girls from Livingstones Sports Bar. One or two soapies should also be had.

The first night I had booked an escort named Lily Lee. A bit older, but with very good impressions from own website as well as from e-mail conversation before my arrival. She arrived a little earlier than agreed upon, but called from reception area to check if it was OK to come. She came.

Not as beautiful as the photos, probably due to them not being all that recent, but still looking good. It took me less than a minute to realize that I was up for a great start of this journey.

So lovely, so caring, so sexy, so horny, yes, no doubt about it. I managed two great rounds in the big bed, plus dinner in between, before we turned of the lights. After some two hours, she woke me up, started to kiss me and do me all over with hands, boobs and mouth. Never thought I would make it a third time, being not that young anymore. But Lily Lee was not to be stopped. She started sucking me and after a while the third condome was in use, and it was just as good as the evening sessions. Wow, LOS!

She left in the morning, which was fine, I needed some more sleep. Sh is soon to move to another country, so I guess You will not have much use for her contact details.

Day 2.

According to my plan I spent a few early evening hours in Cowboy go go's, just to warm up before going to LL and the famous Sports Bar. Cowboy did not impress on me, maybe it was just too early. The girls at the Sports Bar DID impress on me!

More about that in the next report.

BG

[QUOTE=Jerboa;1124287]I agree with Stew's post, there is no short cut, all down to If you both click, also agree older ladies are usually better at treating the guy well, they probably don't get BF every night so rely on repeat customers, unlike some of the young gogo divas who won't want to do a LT, well maybe not until 1am, and then they might not won't to stay long, all depends on your taste of lady, how much they like you, and a bit of luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, Jerboa and Stew.

The point about ST being more profitable for younger girls is a good one. I'll cross the go-go divas off the list.

The idea of booking ST first with an eye for extenstion is also pretty good. I was going under the impression that they had to return to "work", but perhaps they are more free then I was thinking.

In truth I prefer women in their late 20s at least since they are more interesting and skilled than the young ones but are still in decent shape compared to those in their late 30s.

ROOKIE QUESTIONS: What is a barfine, really? I understand it is money paid to the owner when you are taking a girl from the premises, but I don't understand the bargirl system. Are they paying to be there as well (renting bar space)? Or do they get a wage (as they attract paying customers)? Do bar owners collect barfines from us for "freelancers/nonstaff" as well? Do they discourage freelancers from hanging out?

Feel free to answer or ignore, as it is just curiosity here.

So, coming to Livingstones Lodge, LL, after reading a lot about it, was exciting. Was greeted and taken care of already on the street outside the entrance, asked to be shown to the Sports Bar (SP). I told the statuesque mamasan Jen, that I wanted company, someone beautiful and with some English skills. Was introduced to two very good looking girls, and of course I could not choose, but asked both of them to join me and have a drink. We had had two drinks sitting comfortably in a sofa, with lots of good vibes, laughter, touching and kissing. Decided to invite them to dinner on site, which they happily agreed to. Having read a number of positive reeports about the food at LL, but was still amazed by the quality of the Thai food they served. Dinner was very nice, with a growing erotic atmosphere around (and under) the table. Told the girls I was stying in a nice hotel not too far away and that I would like to barfine them both for short time. They happily approved and off we went in a taxi.

Arriving with two girls at Sheraton Grande was totally hazzle free, no one asked or said a word. Put on some good music and started some serious interaction in the big sofa.

Soon, after showers, we all happily joined each other in the comfortable bed. Lots of good kissing all over, incl DFK with both of them. Soon I had one giving BBBJ and the other sitting on my face. Not bad at all.

The one sitting on my face wanted me to take her from behind, which I happily did until I came. Great shag, good BBBJ, everything above expectations. So lovely, affectionate, fun and caring. We spent 2 plus hours together in the room, and after they had left I had a new plan for my remaining 2 plus 6 days in BKK.

The girls names? Huan and Nam.

More to come,

BG

[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1124467]ROOKIE QUESTIONS: What is a barfine, really? I understand it is money paid to the owner when you are taking a girl from the premises, but I don't understand the bargirl system. Are they paying to be there as well (renting bar space)? Or do they get a wage (as they attract paying customers)? Do bar owners collect barfines from us for "freelancers / nonstaff" as well? Do they discourage freelancers from hanging out?

Feel free to answer or ignore, as it is just curiosity here. [/QUOTE]The girls get a salary simply to be there. Somewhere in the range of maybe 7, 000-10, 000 / month. They're required to get a certain number of ladydrinks a month, maybe something like 30, and also a certain number of barfines, maybe 10 (rough estimates on the numbers; I think they might be low). From the ladydrinks and the barfines they get a certain amount of the money back from the bar, maybe 1/3. Then obviously they get to keep all the money the customer gives to them.

I've rarely seen freelancers hanging out in a gogo bar. Don't think it really happens. Not really any reason for them to do so when they could go to a freelancer hangout.

[QUOTE=Love Sex 22;1124185]Tomorrow is Thai holiday Makha Bucha. Are the bars and discos are open tonight and tomorrow night? And liquor can be sold?[/QUOTE]I have the same concern. I know for sure that all the rainbows in Nana will be closed. And likely the others too. I just had major disappointment with massage as most are closed and those that are open, don't have both quantity and quality.

In the morning on my third day in BKK, I cancelled the other well reputed escorts I had booked for days 3, 5 and 9. Early evening I returned to LL and the SB. Now, on my second visit, I was treated like a VIP. Restaurant manager, mamasan Jen and the lovely Som, in charge of most things of interest, all treated me overwhelmingly well. I invited the two girls from last night for drinks, and suddenly a third one appears. Of course she was welcome as well! Same procedure as last night, drinks, fondling a lot in a dark corner of the SB, lots of nice kissing, also with number 3, named Miao. We all had another great dinner on site, enjoying each others company a lot.

Told the girls that I can not handle mor than one at a time, and tonight I would barfine Miao. No problems with anyone, everybody happy!

Off we went, the other two girls waving us good by, wishing us a lovely evening. It was. The new girl seemed to be really horny. We had a nice bath together, with lots of play. In bed she sucked good and the sex was brilliant. Tight, good moves, lovely DFK. After the first round we rested in bed, and I told her I would not make it another time tonight. She did not approve! After an hour or so, she started working me up, and it worked, finishing in her mouth this time. Very nice. Slept, alone, like a baby.

I was hooked on the girls from LL and the SB.

Next day, my fourth in BKK, I thought I needed to rest my old friend, but in the afternoon I somehow walked up to Soi 33 to Akane massage, and asked for a nuru session with two girls. Girls parading, I chose one and told her to choose a good partner. She did, and we went to a decent room. The two girls were all smiles and good attitude. The nuru part was a bit too short, but the actual sex in bed was terrific. They were a great team, and kept smiling and laughing with great attitute all the way. A very pleasant deviation from the LL activities.

Later at night, I showed up again in the sports bar at LL, but only for drinks, or so I thought. After drinks and dinner I felt the energy coming back and took Huan with me to Sheraton. Another round of very good play, lots of kissing, cuddling, showering and boom boom. A hell of a girl!

After these four days I went north, to the mountains and was a happy tourist for a week.

Before I left, I booked my upcoming 6 days in BKK at LL. My newly found paradise.

More to come,

BG

Bill Goates,

Excellent Reports, keep them coming

After 4 days, or rather nights, of pure bliss, it was time to travel north. Just before I had to leave the city, I thought I might squese in a short visit to the famous Annies Massage. Found it, and asked for a soapie version. At this early hour the choice was limited, but I got a nice enough girl who took well care of me during a short hour.

Coming back from the mountain trip, I went straight to LL, by the help of them sending me a driver to pick me up.

Was met by the lovely Som and was tken to the room I had chosen.

At night I met my now three lovelies in the Sports Bar. We had a great time in he very dark corner inside the bar, where there is a nice sofa and some privacy. The drinks came and the fondling was extensive, erotic and with lots of laughs. Som and mamasan Jen seemed rather interested in taking part in our little party, which just added to the wonderful atmosphere we created.

Dinner followed, as usual now, always fab food and even really good wines. Told the girl my plan; One girl per night for the following three nights, then I would need some rest for two nights, and on my last night we would spend the whole evening together, barfining them all.

Started with theeautiful Huan. She was very hot that night. She kept coming and coming as I ate her pussy, asking for more and more. Sucked me good and I finished deep inside her.

Next evening, same same, but with Nam. So sweet and ever so caring. We had a long erotic session in the jacuzzi. Always hot, always playful and fun. Sex in bed, nothing new, but very, very good.

Third evening, same same same, but now with Miao, from Laos. She has the most kissable lips, and she really knows how to use them, both on my mouth and on my still performing member. She is very thight nd the final was extatic!

The fourth night, on which I was supposed to rest, ended in bed with Huan, again. Could not resist myself, or her total charm. Just as good as before.

The following nights I was sick, had some bad food on an excursion in Konchanaburi. End of fun in BKK, now off to more touristy travels, before going to Pattaya. That is wherer I am now, and I have started some reporting on that thread.

BG

I am a newbie as well. If you don't mind me asking how much was the bar fine at LL, and for LT

Very well written report. I will contribute very soon

[QUOTE=Nonipaa; 1124577]I am a newbie as well. If you don't mind me asking how much was the bar fine at LL, and for LT

Very well written report. I will contribute very soon[/QUOTE]Well, not cheap, but for a once in life experience, I don't really care. The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000.

But, staying there, the barfines were all turned into "accomodation" on my bill, on my request, which for me means they are covered by my company.

BG

[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124580]Well, not cheap, but for a once in life experience, I don't really care. The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000.

But, staying there, the barfines were all turned into "accomodation" on my bill, on my request, which for me means they are covered by my company.

BG[/QUOTE]BF at LL starts at 1500, and goes down to 1000 after 12 pm and to 700 at closing. (correct me if I am wrong)

You can negotiate the rates. I never paid more than 2K LT at LL. (but that was a couple of years ago). Even then 5K is a bit steep. Should be able to get it around 3K.

Granted it has been a year since I have been to LL but plan is to return this fall. Last year year the BF was charged by the time of night you BFed them. I have always paid 2000 st and 3000 LT. I never negotiate with them aand just pay that. I guess because I have been staying there for a few years I might have better understanding of the going rate. Remember always bargin if not sure.

Still if you had a good tme, that is what is important.

I am on my first visit to Thailand and have been in Bangkok the past few days and everything has been a massive shock to my previous visits throughout Europe. On Thursday night I went to the NEP (Nana Plaza) and visited three different bars between 11. 30 and 1. 45am, being completely new I was not sure what to find and expect.

After the three bars and despite seeing several girls I liked I decided to leave as Nana is more of a touristy place in my opinion as the bars were just full of guys watching the shows and none of the girls would approach you, only the bartender to sell over-priced drinks. The one girl I really wanted was a bartender so she was probably off the menu. It looks as if you must be really straight to the point to get what you want in Nana, this coupled with the crazy prices and over abundance of Ladyboys saw me jumping in a Tuk-Tuk and heading over to soi cowboy for 100thb, this was not good as my hotel was within walking distance of NEP and my plan was to use Nana to score ass while in Bangkok.

Anyway Soi Cowboy is much different and where NEP is a three storey shopping mall of pussy & Ladyboys; by comparison Soi Cowboy is a street of bars, go-gos etc. After walking it about three times I was eventually ushered into the Sahara by a really nice older lady who is in her early thirties but looking well. We sat inside and it became obvious that despite her age and maybe 6. 5/10 looks that we were "clicking". We had two drinks a lady drink (150thb) and a sprite (120thb) , her barfine then came to 800thb which is expensive and I think will stick with Freelancers once I get over to Pattaya for the rest of my trip.

After about half an hour in the club I took her for ST for 2000thb, we then went back to my hotel (Ibis on Nana soi 4). The hotel is GF and no joiner fees or any of that BS and booking for two is the same price as for one. After going to the hotel we showered and were very intimate although did not actually have any sex as I was tired and she was not that type of girl for me, instead I asked her for long time and offered her another 2000thb to spend the night and she did, we made out and did some BF / GF stuff and chatted using google translate. We then both fell asleep about 4. 30am, two hours later at about 6. 30 her phone rang and woke us, which was annoying, however we then stayed awake and got down to business with her giving me two great CBJs (the rubber being my idea) and I actually never had intercourse with her. However there was a great emotional bond and I really enjoyed my time with her.

In the morning at 9 she called a friend of hers and the three of us went out of the city for the day on a tour of the temples in Ancient Siam and as it was Mung Boran it was an important day for her as a Buddhist. This was a brilliant experience for me to have her as my own guide and her friend who is a taxi driver and professional photographer. His cost for the day was 1000thb, although when I saw the photos he took of me I gave him 2000thb in the evening as he was such a nice guy.

While the sex side was far from the best or cheapest, the GFE and tour laid on the following day was supremely good and as I wrote earlier before coming out here this is what I wanted from my trip to Thailand was some emotions and GFE not just raw sex. And as someone else wrote here it is sometimes not the 10/10 girls who are the best and while my friend for the day was not the best looking she more than compensated with her attitude and guided tour.

Absolutely brilliant so far and I can't wait to get to Pattaya for some cheaper p4p.

[b]Costs:[/b]

Bar fine at Sahara 800thb.

Drinks at Sahara 270thb.

ST for Lady 2000thb.

LT extension 2000thb.

Lady = 5070thb.

Tour: Driver and Photo guide tip 2000 (well deserved)

Admission prices on tour, food, trinkets and snacks all came to around 3000. I know I could have done it cheaper independently however this way was the best as I had my own GF for the day, taxi driver and professional photographer, VIP style!

In total I paid about 8000thb for about 18hours, and before some blasts me for overpaying or saying you paid 8000thb for two blowjobs, the experience and enjoyment I had was priceless for me.

[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124580]Well, not cheap, but for a once in life experience, I don't really care. The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000.

But, staying there, the barfines were all turned into "accomodation" on my bill, on my request, which for me means they are covered by my company.

BG[/QUOTE]You read 200 pages of this forum, and the best plan you could come up with was to schedule some internet escorts and then go to LL and get ripped off?