Seoul

Hello,

First time visiting Seoul. I'm currently living in China and can't wait to explore a more free and open city.

I've read a lot of the reports and saw a few rdl I will check out. Is Yeongdeungpo rld the best for street girls because I have a real thing for that.

Also I've been in Asia for 2 years and also want to experience some non asian workers. Are there any places for that in Seoul or maybe some sites that offer it.

Thanks in advance! Will be here until Monday evening and will report my full experience.

[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;2952039]Hello,

First time visiting Seoul. I'm currently living in China and can't wait to explore a more free and open city.

I've read a lot of the reports and saw a few rdl I will check out. Is Yeongdeungpo rld the best for street girls because I have a real thing for that.

Also I've been in Asia for 2 years and also want to experience some non asian workers. Are there any places for that in Seoul or maybe some sites that offer it.

Thanks in advance! Will be here until Monday evening and will report my full experience.[/QUOTE]Yes go to YDP it has hot girls on windows go at night when its full of providers, please report.

Second or so house A row on the right if you're walking from the dept store. She always wears a mask. Thick solid curvy pale body. Silicone cups. Cute face without the mask. BBBJ and very accommodating. Doesn't usually take foreigners, but might accept if you offer more.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2950338]Walk out Itaewon subway exit 3. Go straight about 75 meters until you hit an intersection just after Kervan Turkish Halal Restaurant. Don't cross that intersection, but make a right 90 degree turn and walk up the street another 50 meters. You are now at the base of Hooker Hill. On your left, up that hill, is the old Hooker hill. But if you haven't turned and just cross the alley street and keep going, you will find Tiffany about 10 to 15 m after you cross that alley, on your right. The girl with the straight cut hair who worked on Saturdays is named Sue.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips! I am flying in at the end of month and will try that along anma, hyugetel!!

Typically, what is the damage at the bar?

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2952249]Second or so house A row on the right if you're walking from the dept store. She always wears a mask. Thick solid curvy pale body. Silicone cups. Cute face without the mask. BBBJ and very accommodating. Doesn't usually take foreigners, but might accept if you offer more.[/QUOTE]What does she wear? CIM? Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2952249]Second or so house A row on the right if you're walking from the dept store. She always wears a mask. Thick solid curvy pale body. Silicone cups. Cute face without the mask. BBBJ and very accommodating. Doesn't usually take foreigners, but might accept if you offer more.[/QUOTE]Forgot to mention it was FS and not just BJ. She wears some kind of swimsuit like bodysuit and maybe boots, can't recall. Stands out from what others have on.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2952364]Forgot to mention it was FS and not just BJ. She wears some kind of swimsuit like bodysuit and maybe boots, can't recall. Stands out from what others have on.[/QUOTE]Did she allow finger in pussy? How much was it?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2950218]Thanks for the report I've heard about girls that are on the side streets and not on the glass houses, By the way how where the girls on the glass houses?[/QUOTE]The glass houses all mainly kinda died out but some still have a little selection. YDP is one of the luckier RLDs that didn't disappear or is dead as hell like 588 and Miari. All the glass house girls are similar, 15 minutes and you can bargain with them about the price because some charge more for foreigners, some don't take foreigners, etc. I'm Korean and they try charging me more at times. Anything over 80,000-90 is a red flag. Have you tried out the massage parlors? Any (Ahn Mah) in the Kangnam area for 260,000-320,000 but only the really popular ones are above 3. Rimming is a given, slide, sometimes an "event" where up to 4 more girls come in with the mask over their eyes for a good 5 minutes of Heaven taking turns riding and sucking.

I haven't heard of a good story from friends or seen any ladies worthwhile at the Hill in ages. Plus they will scheme you if they get a whiff that you are a tourist and don't really know what you are doing. My first time at the hill fairly attractive ladies took me and my friend in just sat us down in chairs 5 ft from each other tried going through our wallets all in all paid 100 $ USD bill for an unenthusiastic HJ and was given a toilet roll to clean myself up while she left me to try to fetch her next victim. The Hill you would have much much better luck just hitting up the bars trying to pull a chick on your own even if you think you are old. Lots of Korean ladies go to itaewon just to find a foreigner especially a white american.

Also if you heard of Kiss bangs (kiss rooms) in the Jongro area that's where you'll find the youngest attractive girls for 80,000 ish depending on which one then negotiate a tip. Besides top class room salons, Kiss rooms is where you want to go imo. Happy hunting mongers.

[QUOTE=SamKatz;2953251]The glass houses all mainly kinda died out but some still have a little selection. YDP is one of the luckier RLDs that didn't disappear[/QUOTE]Good report. The last time I went to YDP was two years ago in December. I walked through bundled up, so they couldn't tell that I was a white guy, but when I got close up, they politely declined. The first place on the right would take me even though I was a foreigner. She was hot but I was wondering what else was available and as I walked through nobody else would have me. When I returned to the first place, she brushed me off, so that was that. Overall, white guys aren't having much luck there (then). The only remaining RLD that's completely friendly to foreigners is Dongducheon, probably because of the US Army and all the TCN factory workers.

[QUOTE=SamKatz;2953251]I haven't heard of a good story from friends or seen any ladies worthwhile at the Hill in ages. Plus they will scheme you if they get a whiff that you are a tourist and don't really know what you are doing. [/QUOTE]There are three places on the main hill- Evergreen and the one next to it, Betty's around the corner at the top. Bean is not working now, so none of the places at the top of the hill are even worth considering- all old and unattractive. The other places on the street offer more in looks and variety, but not much as there are only four places.

As for money, start with FS at 100,000 KRW and negotiate no higher than 150,000 KRW. If one place doesn't take it, another will. In these desperate times, you might get some extras for a slightly higher charge, you'll have to see. The service is rushed and probably not that great, but it's a foreigner friendly place and that's hard to come by in Korea.

[QUOTE=SamKatz;2953251]The glass houses all mainly kinda died out but some still have a little selection. YDP is one of the luckier RLDs that didn't disappear or is dead as hell like 588 and Miari. All the glass house girls are similar, 15 minutes and you can bargain with them about the price because some charge more for foreigners, some don't take foreigners, etc. I'm Korean and they try charging me more at times. Anything over 80,000-90 is a red flag. Have you tried out the massage parlors? Any (Ahn Mah) in the Kangnam area for 260,000-320,000 but only the really popular ones are above 3. Rimming is a given, slide, sometimes an "event" where up to 4 more girls come in with the mask over their eyes for a good 5 minutes of Heaven taking turns riding and sucking.

I haven't heard of a good story from friends or seen any ladies worthwhile at the Hill in ages. Plus they will scheme you if they get a whiff that you are a tourist and don't really know what you are doing. My first time at the hill fairly attractive ladies took me and my friend in just sat us down in chairs 5 ft from each other tried going through our wallets all in all paid 100 $ USD bill for an unenthusiastic HJ and was given a toilet roll to clean myself up while she left me to try to fetch her next victim. The Hill you would have much much better luck just hitting up the bars trying to pull a chick on your own even if you think you are old. Lots of Korean ladies go to itaewon just to find a foreigner especially a white american.

Also if you heard of Kiss bangs (kiss rooms) in the Jongro area that's where you'll find the youngest attractive girls for 80,000 ish depending on which one then negotiate a tip. Besides top class room salons, Kiss rooms is where you want to go imo. Happy hunting mongers.[/QUOTE]Yes any Kiss bang you recommend? Heard you can also have FS at times? Is 588 completely gone or are there still some windows? Because I know Miari is still operating a bit and will check it out. I hope YDP stays open for us Mongers!

Hello,

I will visit Seoul and Busan soon, and I'm looking for some fun with K girls.

Comparing to my experience with Japan finding anything on web regarding market in Korea is a pain. Also, it's even more desolated to foreigners than Japan.

Can any of you guys recommend me place that will accept white foreigner and with good-looking girls?

I did some research, but it does not look so good.

1. Kissbangs. Very random regarding girls, and you may not get FS there. Not sure if I will try it.

Sillim Kissbang and the one next to it (K+) looks like Ffriendly and popular. Would you recommend it?

2. 2 barber poles. Apparently it is massage (some old women doing massage) for 40 min then 20 min switch for younger one and FS. Not really GFE. But also not so expensive.

3. Anmas. Probably the best option with best experience. The problem is to find good one that accepts foreigners.

[URL]http://www.donutsanma.co.kr/[/URL] Donuts has quite good opinions on Taiwan forum. But there is some kind of fixed price for white guys, and I'm not sure what option it is. Apparently there are only 3-4 girls willing to provide for caucasians and you may not experience full fun on Anma (3 girls in lift and in club doing BJ and other fun stuff). It may end at standard 1-1 room service.

Jiju spa. Can't find website, but apparently girls are not as attractive as in Donuts.

Dao Anma. Very simillar to Donuts but older girls.

[URL]https://www.castleanma.net/club-i[/URL] - As a foreigner the bill extra over the listed price, you do not get access to the club, only a room with the girl you choose. Apparently nothing special, you can get similar services for way cheaper.

4. RLD. As wrote below, probably only one area with a few girls. Not sure if it's worth.

5. Something called Officetel. Can be expensive, no upper limit but top girls. The problem is to find ones that accept foreigners.

I appreciate any feedback and tips.

[QUOTE=SamKatz;2953251]The glass houses all mainly kinda died out but some still have a little selection. YDP is one of the luckier RLDs that didn't disappear or is dead as hell like 588 and Miari. All the glass house girls are similar, 15 minutes and you can bargain with them about the price because some charge more for foreigners, some don't take foreigners, etc. I'm Korean and they try charging me more at times. Anything over 80,000-90 is a red flag.
[/QUOTE]I lived in Osan Korea for a year back in 2016 and my experience mongering there was not a good one. Granted, I'm not Korean, so many of the WGs in the RLDs near that one train station (can't remember the name) flat out rejected me which was shocking for me who had experienced the welcome a foreigner gets in thailand. I still managed to enjoy a few (mostly older ones who didn't reject me), but they didn't know a lick of english and I didn't know a lick of a korean which made the situation confusing. I also tried Itaewon, which was far more open to foreigners but their prices were high and there wasn't a lot of women available.

Ironically, I had far more fun, success, and joy just dating and being with non-WG Korean women. I believe Korean women are the best looking Asians in the world, but I do wish their mongering scene was better.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2953424]Yes any Kiss bang you recommend? Heard you can also have FS at times? Is 588 completely gone or are there still some windows? Because I know Miari is still operating a bit and will check it out. I hope YDP stays open for us Mongers![/QUOTE]The Kiss Bangs are very much a grey area meaning the prices are different for foreigners at times and the negotiation with every girl is different like for example I went with my friend who is half Korean half white but he looks white. The ones in Jongro are better than Hongdae. Hongdae is not for mongering, it's for clubs / bars and gen z kids and younger foreign English teachers. Even if you are under 30, try going to NB2 on a Friday night, it's way too packed and not worth it because there's a whole strategy behind the hunting game. White Americans are still most popular among foreigners, especially the English teachers since soldiers end up leaving eventually most of the time. You probably heard of lonelynight dot org, theres a few AMPS that are good but Kiss rooms in Hongdae alot have closed and the few left I never hear anything good about them. Jongro, Shilimdong, Kangnam, but if you have even 1 Korean native friend they can find everything online. Everything is on your phone. When kiss rooms first came out it was 60,000 w / hour just kissing talking and can grab some boobs and a camera in the room. Now most do HJ, BJ, and FS. They will try to get you for more money for being a foreigner but I suggest having a wad of cash ready in Korean money (to make it look more since the exchange rate is bad) and nothing over 200,000 extra. This is the top of the line young college girls. I've actually seen college IDs before and proven wrong, you won't find young hotties like this elsewhere besides the grade A room salons which is a waste of money and need to spend thousands and can even sponsor Kpop girl trainees or a couple on the come up but that's difficult and need connections. It's hard to explain directions for kiss rooms but definitely not in Hongdae. You'll see the difference going elsewhere. If the 50 minute initial price is only 60-70,000 w it's not one of the better ones. 90,000+ you know you are at a better one. The one on the site 10 minute I've been there before very nice interior and lady manager was hot too, managed to get BJ for 200,000 total. Tried to get her Kakao on the low but she said she will get in big trouble if caught so let it go.

588 is completely gone for a while now. 588 died out after the 2005 crackdown. Before then it was Heaven! So many hot girls for only 60,000 w for 20 minutes, some charged 70 and just like every RLD, the hottest girls have the best spots like near the entrance and the old Shaq on the Celtics past their prime women are in the side allyways. Miari even 10+ years ago was dead. They only have a few houses open and the curtains are closed. The pimpjumma (pimp ajumma) just shows you a sneak opening the curtain for you with only 3 girls working and they are not attractive. Miari used to be so great too. Last I heard Chon Ho Dong still has a few open and YDP still has some open. Just ignore the older women near the main road and on the way to the YDP RLD. It's sad to see women their age still doing this and begging though.

Rocko20, I don't know the geography but you might be talking about Pyuntaek or Yongjogol or Suwon RLD. Even as a Korean American myself I'll admit Koreas mongering scene can be racist as hell. That's why they have all the juicy bars and the lower class spots near all the Army bases. All my half Korean friends their moms met US soldiers back in the day so live near Kunsan, Uiejungbu, Donggochun, Songtan, Osan, etc and all got those bars and ghetto clubs specifically for coldiers but with older and lower class Korean ladies and Russians, Latinas, and southeast Asian country ladies. Same as Itaewon, that hooker hill is so horrible compared to the real mongering scene but I tried taking my foreign friends to some spots and some were welcoming but some charged him more or said we can't accept your friend. My taxi driver friend told me the high class AMPS don't accept foreigners because the super rich Korean old men will look down on the establishment if they see them accepting foreigners (especially black men). IMO, it's messed up since like you said Thailand, Colombia all other countries with a mongering scene is very welcoming of all men. Since 2016 though Korea has changed alot, they gay scene is gaining popularity, there's AMPS where you can have your session being viewed by others. Not my cup of tea. Also have to watch out in Jongro because alot of gay places and massage spots / saunas (they exist more than you think). My advice is always flash the cash, the prostitution scene in Korea is so competitive they don't get many customers. Especially YDP RLD because even when I used to go there a long time ago it was always pretty empty and girls begging oppa oppa for business.

Overall, any Kiss room is Jongro or Kangnam area are going to be great but just don't get upcharged too much and AMPS they have upped their game to have different themes, different styles, services for all preferences. IMO, that place 1% on the website is great a hidden gem. You walk down the stairs and they have a glass wall and pick your girl who is dressed normally. This is a major turn on considering it feels like you met a girl naturally on the street instead of of a skimpy pink dress with high heels and caked in makeup with plastic surgeries. They have many regular looking girls you would see walking on the street and just pick and they send you upstairs and eventually she walks in and can opt for the blind people to give you a massage, eat a meal, sleep, anything you want. Plus after you are done they send you to the top floor where you get another massage done well. But all in all, RLDs are pretty dead and even YDPs quality has gone down so much even though there are still some nice ones, NOTHING compared to what it used to be. Also YDP was considered to be one of the bottom level RLDs out of the long list. I used to have a bunch of pictures (I posted a few on here already over 15 years ago but I had a good stash but hotmail decided to close their accounts one day and should work under outlook but doesn't. Oh well.

I'll try to find the exact names but going with a native Korean will make your chances go up like no other plus no games and shadiness and so forth. That's how I hearned about everything from a native taxi friend LOL. Back in 2002 I told him I've never been out in Korea before and only came here to meet relatives before this summer take me somewhere nice and I'll hook you up and all fun from there! And most importantly, learning everything. Sorry for the longass post.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

Found a video of YDP RLD a guy posted 7 months ago [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgAHttyovV8.[/URL] I can't say for sure obviously but really think they are pretty dead even at night.

YDL RLD at night- [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB25DYnuQVkmostly[/URL] closed wow! I'll never forget the days when it was packed.

This is what 588 looks like [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PF-G8fK-iM[/URL] but besides the few stranglers it's going to be totally gone in time to build houses, stores whatever.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2953278]Good report. The last time I went to YDP was two years ago in December. I walked through bundled up, so they couldn't tell that I was a white guy, but when I got close up, they politely declined. The first place on the right would take me even though I was a foreigner. She was hot but I was wondering what else was available and as I walked through nobody else would have me. When I returned to the first place, she brushed me off, so that was that. Overall, white guys aren't having much luck there (then). The only remaining RLD that's completely friendly to foreigners is Dongducheon, probably because of the US Army and all the TCN factory workers.

There are three places on the main hill- Evergreen and the one next to it, Betty's around the corner at the top. Bean is not working now, so none of the places at the top of the hill are even worth considering- all old and unattractive. The other places on the street offer more in looks and variety, but not much as there are only four places.

As for money, start with FS at 100,000 KRW and negotiate no higher than 150,000 KRW. If one place doesn't take it, another will. In these desperate times, you might get some extras for a slightly higher charge, you'll have to see. The service is rushed and probably not that great, but it's a foreigner friendly place and that's hard to come by in Korea.[/QUOTE]So YDP RLD in 2024 is denying white foreigners? That is crazy! Me and my half white friends (they all look white for the most part) would have no trouble back around 2015-19. The RLD around Dongduchun is that Suwon? [URL]https://youtu.be/hdJ5I1B6cHw?si=DF9SwuyaE-b96Oqk&t=486[/URL] or is it another RLD? I never heard of one at Dongduchun during my tour of going to literally all of them as an experience. The RLDs are all pretty dead and going under redevelopment which sucks. I'm surprised you even had to negotiate in itaewon, among all the foreigners I know, nobody goes to those spots around itaewon. I'm surprised with the super increase in foreigners they don't accept white Americans which are most sought after by girls if they are dating non Koreans. It's the Nigerians and especially the Indian / Pakistanis and middle east brown mongers that have it really tough in Korea. I tried to help a Paki and his friend before and nobody would accept them. Sad but reality. Just surprised it happened to you too since white Americans are #1, then probably Canadians, Australians, etc. Hope things get better in Korea for all mongers! All those RLD girls had to have gone elsewhere to work obviously, I say don't ever use those cards on the ground officetel girls because you can't see them before you screw them and all sports massage or double pole barber pole spots are low class older women. Also an important thing is the best AMPS and clubs and room salons don't say massage or room salon on them. Usually just an English word like "Cool" "Snow" "Tenpro" "King" etc. Can't wait to go back! I'll document next time and take pictures and write down names and everything.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

[QUOTE=RawhHigh;2952274]Thanks for the tips! I am flying in at the end of month and will try that along anma, hyugetel!!

Typically, what is the damage at the bar?[/QUOTE]50 k handjob or I walk. And I often do walk. If the girl is alone you can pay less. I used to trade an hour teaching for a handjob 10 years ago. Miss those days. One gal liked me and would study then blow me for free.

BJ probably closer to 80 k with FS possible from 100 k.