Pattaya Reports

The regeneration of our beloved Beach Road continues. Work has commenced up to soi 11, thereafter our loves will be found on duty towards Walking street in what appears to be a fairly good nightly turnout. From the obese to the gorgeous are on parade, all keen for work. I even saw pornstar, Noi, sans panties and shorter hairstyle, those huge superboobs were so inviting it was a hard personal battle to rid myself, she was keen for a rounder which required all my self discipline to decline for a later meet-up which I promised her. Some girls have gravitated towards sio 6 and up until soi 2, but number few.

Once completed I believe the Beach Road will perhaps see an improvement despite the fact the meandering, almost romantic, old walkway is now just a memory. Why, oh why, did they have to carry out these works just when I was due is my bad luck I suppose, nevertheless I have had to resort to the old barfine over several nights until I took the stroll further down from soi 6 which is where I choose to stay even though I do not frequent the bars in soi 6 that often, it is still a good location to base oneself.

Other matters: My arrival was last Saturday, the waters were disgustingly filthy after some rain I presume, sadly I could not swim amongst your turds, cheerfully it cleared after several days and I am now in my element swimming daily and hunting nightly after a few cold ones. I have obviously had some loves from the Beach Road and barfined a good lady from Lovely Corner bar with whom I had good chemistry with and rather against my norm I spent two days with her until I gently broke it to her that I needed my space back. I stole a glance at her, I will be damned, but I'm sure as hell she was fighting back tears, she nevertheless accepted her fate of being a bargirl having to move on. Got a lady my age out of Rolling Stone bar in Walking st, interestingly, this lady is a keen swimmer, I managed to remove her denims she insisted on swimming with once we got out into the depths. Sex is nigh impossible without copious amounts of lube under water, I learnt this years back in my teens. I brought her off with my good fingers after which she jacked me off to one of the most intense climaxes I have ever experienced in my life, must be something to do with the floating effect of ones innards. What an experience.

Thursday night I had a gorgeous girl with quite the most remarkable behind, her button sized anus received my tongue as deep it would go and the morning session was even better, so intense, I was still shaking at brunch where I managed to pour the milk all over the table save for the tea. The Beergarden appears to be extremely busy, had to wait for a table to be seated with multiple choices of freelancers on duty. For Friday night, Soi 7 & 8 resembled Ghost Town, low season really has hit the highest low, there are hardly any punters about just loads of general tourists, Pattaya is morphing into another Amsterdam, for those of you that have been there on the weekends; families browse the decadence on display, all really bizarre if you ask me me. Five years back one hardly saw a European women in Pattaya, now they probably outnumber punters. Appalling!

Shoot!

[QUOTE=Marcos;1442714]Bionicman, Wolvenvatch: Point taken. I've asked Jackson to remove my posting, we'll see what he sees in all that.[/QUOTE]I can respect a man who acknowledges his mistake. If ever we meet I buy you a cold one!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1442690]Some (not me) might say that such rant is a sure sign of your own repressed homosexuality.[/QUOTE]Up to 60% (but not necessarily me) would agree that was pretty much uncalled for. There had been remarks in the forum that its rules were "rigid" and that we (who are "we"?) "don't want to lose" member XYZ over posting FR including the type of SW in question.

As ISG members we have agreed to follow the rules. Period. Let's move on.

[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1442142]Concerning the moral of thai working girls:

I think that some of you underestimate their ability to judge the situation. Although a working girl might not see it wise to steal from you for whatever reason; a knowledge of your experience or chances that you might deem it worthwhile to complain to management or just what a gentlemanlike fellow you are she might very well judge differently with someone else. Probably there are also girls who would simply never do such a horrid thing and all respect! Much harder to walk the narrow in an environment such as theirs.[/QUOTE]Yesterday night, I visited Sweethearts. I know a few girls there, and asked whether they have heard about such story. Normally, the girls chat among themselves, when something special happens. But none of the girls had heard about the 5000 Baht or the stolen 2000 Baht.

There are also two mamasans, one is new since 3 weeks. She is a bit shorter and has a more round face. She puts the ballpoint pen into her hair. The longer serving mamasan has her reading glasses hanging on a necklace, and her face is slimmer. It would be interesting to know which of the two mamasans was involved.

Furthermore, I did not see any girl who would fit the description. It would be good to know her number in the bar.

I also know the owner / manager of the Sweethearts. If there are any hard facts, we could discuss the issue with him and the mama involved.

But it seems that Naked Lie prefers to leave it as it is. Nomen est omen?

Wonderer

[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1442966]Yesterday night, I visited Sweethearts. I know a few girls there, and asked whether they have heard about such story. Normally, the girls chat among themselves, when something special happens. But none of the girls had heard about the 5000 Baht or the stolen 2000 Baht.

There are also two mamasans, one is new since 3 weeks. She is a bit shorter and has a more round face. She puts the ballpoint pen into her hair. The longer serving mamasan has her reading glasses hanging on a necklace, and her face is slimmer. It would be interesting to know which of the two mamasans was involved.

Furthermore, I did not see any girl who would fit the description. It would be good to know her number in the bar.

I also know the owner / manager of the Sweethearts. If there are any hard facts, we could discuss the issue with him and the mama involved.

But it seems that Naked Lie prefers to leave it as it is. Nomen est omen?

Wonderer[/QUOTE]According to the OP, the sticky-fingered girl's name is Bee. Then, there are two types of thieves, one that will need to boast about it and one that doesn't. I think that given the "common Thai values", the latter is more prevalent. In the DR, a girl would have took 2K, but boasted 10.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1441764]The worst part is when you discovered that the girl stole 2000bt from you and you didn't say or do anything about it. In fact you continued your Bizarro behavior and shelled out another 3000bt and convinced yourself she was a great girl who showed you a great time. Are you insane?[/QUOTE]Guys like this should be banned from boards like this! Fucking up the market royally! Sometimes mongers get robbed or ripped off (that is understandable) , but to reward the ***** who stole from you is worse than a Japanese tipping a girl for NOT giving a BJ. Go hang out with the Japs where you belong!

Nah, it's cool bro you made a mistake. You can stay in the club, I guess. Just stop acting so Japaneses. LOL

Thanks for the through report on Devils Den Valoulou. My comments are from my experiences and for those who follow in your footsteps:

[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1442610]So here I am. 7.30pm, entering Devil's Den. Inside was few staff people, one of them was European and started discussing with me. He asked me if I wanted him to ask the girl to come in for the line up, I asked how many girl he had available before doing the line up. He said about 10, I said ok.

10 girls came in. 7 left to the yellow line (No Anal sex) and 3 right to the line (Anal sex). Unfortunately for me, all the "superstars" weren't here (Luke, Cake, Holly, Jenna, Alyssa, Tammy.) some others were here.[/QUOTE]This is why I like to schedule an appointment at DD. They open at 1pm so you can either stop by or call. DD takes incall appointments up to starting the session at midnight. Of course you can also schedule an outcall appointment to your hotel at any point during the day (including overnight.)

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]Again, this experience, is a routine, by that I mean that they have a "process" that they follow for every customer, of course you can ask whatever you want but if you don't, you'll get the exact same thing than I.[/QUOTE]Yes this is often reported. It is up to you to break them of their routine if you choose to. It is natural to be somewhat intimidated in this type of situation, so I think they just take the lead accordingly. It is also helpful to talk to them before the session starts and tell them what you are looking to do.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]When they speak thai together, you know that they speaking about you as they can't seriously be talking about the weather. I'm a 25 blond young monger with blue eye so I guess they were not judging me negatively I guess but still, you always wonder what they're saying when they laugh (and it doesn't help to focus.)[/QUOTE]This is why I prefer to take the ladies one at a time on an outcall basis. Better focus. First time as part of a double, repeats as a solo at my hotel. And I have found in general with this hobby repeating pays big dividends performance wise after familiarity has been established.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]Overall it was a good session but not transcending. For those who wants a threesome, try it but don't expect the threesome you've dreamed of or in the movies where the two girls kisses with passion, let's say it's a twosome with. Another girl waiting for her turn. Of course this is MY experience, MY POV and some other guys from this forum may have had the time of their life.[/QUOTE]This is basically correct the first lady you select takes the lead and the second is more like a standing by 'helper' so to speak. For sure the ladies at DD will get PSE kinky from moment one, but real [I]passion [/I]like any other P4P experience can be hit or miss.

Take it from long time monger. A [I]once in a lifetime experience [/I]only happens by definition once in a lifetime. High expectations on a single session can be difficult to meet. Take it as it comes and it's all good. Most anyone reading your report would have traded places with you in a heartbeat.

Thanks again for the posting.

SunLover

What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Noddy;1442715]The regeneration of our beloved Beach Road continues. Work has commenced up to soi 11, thereafter our loves will be found on duty towards Walking street in what appears to be a fairly good nightly turnout. From the obese to the gorgeous are on parade, all keen for work.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Noddy. I was in Pattaya in late November. I was not in top form physically, so it is possible that is the reason why the place I had visited several times before failed to impress me this time. Also, I am in my late 60s now, so my preferences may also have changed. I thought punters like me, holding the hands of girls the age of their grandchildren, looked ridiculous. But to each his own.

I had BJs from two women. One upstaris in a bar, the other one from Beach Road early in the morning, executed in a shorttime notel. I get better blow jobs from streetwalkers in the city where I live.

Nevertheless I acknowledge that while my good old days were in the 1980s (in Africa and Thailand), young novice mongers' good old days will be whatever they are at right now. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may!

[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1442610]So here I am. 7.30pm, entering Devil's Den.

Again, this experience, is a routine, by that I mean that they have a "process" that they follow for every customer, of course you can ask whatever you want but if you don't, you'll get the exact same thing than I.[/QUOTE]Why would you expect not to get the same thing? It's a job, and most jobs are routine. You go into the office, or the field, or whatever and usually do the exact same thing you did with the last stack of papers, the last bale of hay, the last whatever. You probably have a process when you get with a girl as well. Maybe you start kissing her face, mouth, neck. Then you go for the chest. If she is receptive you try to take her shirt off. Very routine shit. Think about your best sex experience. What was so good about it? Now think if every woman thereafter matched that. After a while you would not say you had 100 best experiences. You would instead say the shit was routine because you had experienced it 100 times.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]When they speak thai together, you know that they speaking about you as they can't seriously be talking about the weather. I'm a 25 blond young monger with blue eye so I guess they were not judging me negatively[/QUOTE]Why would you think they wouldn't judge you negatively simply because of your age, hair color and eye color? They usually judge young blond hair blue eye guys the worse! They could be talking about anything. Again, this is very routine for them. They are not in it for the experience of ecstasy as you are. Think of a mechanic working on a car. He is under the hood turning whatever and all of a sudden he says to his helper,"Hey, did you see that episode of XYZ show last night?" Not necessarily talking about the car he is working on, but talking about something else to pass the time. And of course it is going to be in Thai because that is more comfortable for them. Quand vous etes avec vos amis and other people from another country may be in the vicinity you still talk to your friends in French right? They figure you are there to get your dick wet and not to know what their mundane conversations are about.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]I'm planning to go back to Bangkok tomorrow. 2 days in Pattaya was way enough for me. Overall I'm not a huge fan of this place. Also because I'm alone and I don't really feel comfortable going to gogo bars by myself. I'm sure If I had been with someone I would have tried more stuffs. Pattaya needs to be tried at least once. It's a city filled with gogo bars, plenty of girls (even in low season) and you can always find a girl of your taste.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports. In your Bangkok report you said that you would stay in Pattaya 4 days if you liked it. After you experienced Pattaya you say that 2 days were enough for you. From your reports I gather you were in Bangkok alone as well, doing the same mongering exercises you were doing in Pattaya. So how is it that you feel more comfortable doing the same thing in one place as opposed to the other? What makes you choose Bangkok over Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Vittu;1443061]I was not in top form physically, so it is possible that is the reason why the place I had visited several times before failed to impress me this time. Also, I am in my late 60s now, so my preferences may also have changed. I thought punters like me, holding the hands of girls the age of their grandchildren, looked ridiculous. But to each his own.[/QUOTE]I'm 41 and holding hands with a prostitute of any age to me seems ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1443061]Nevertheless I acknowledge that while my good old days were in the 1980s (in Africa and Thailand), young novice mongers' good old days will be whatever they are at right now.[/QUOTE]At least you have sense enough to realize this and not proclaim the sky is falling.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1443070]I'm 41 and holding hands with a prostitute of any age to me seems ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Why? Do you think kissing is ridiculous as well?

[QUOTE=Piperpilot;1443056]What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]According to your nick you like me probably enjoy aviation. Well percentage is hard to predict as I will be damned if such stats exists but anyway your best bet is to just ask upfront if it is ok if you took some pics and even a vid of them. I am by far an expert and maby I take pics of like 50% of all the P4P girls I bring back. I have a bigger stock of pics but that is from regular girls with a bit different history and none P4P. Most of the girls I am with are ok with some pic and I even don't ask until we are back at my place. If a girls says no I say ok. It is not that important for me so I end the session bcs I can not get a pic from her.

Just work on the chemistry, create a playful mood and say you will never make use of the pics others than for your personal use. Some girls are, from very good reasons, afraid of getting their nude pic(in combination with face) out in the open. When I come to think of it I can not not remember a girl saying no to a photo (nude yes) with clothes. Often I don't mind take photo only with clothes so i just skip it but that is another story.

You just use common sense and you should not have to pay more but maby be a bit more generous with your tip so the next mongerer out there also can have his pics. LOL

[QUOTE=Piperpilot;1443056]What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]LOL @ flash cards, would you use flashcards to know if anal sex was OK? Just wave your camera and front of them, smile, and nod your head. Most Thai girls love to have their picture taken and always will want to see the end results. As far as which is better, BKK or Pattaya that's entirely up to you, give them both a visit.

Thanks! Heading out there in a couple months and want to know what to expect. It seems the girls are more playful there. Do you have much experience with non-P4P girls? Is that likely there in a short period of time? I'll be there for a week.

Ever have problem taking video of the girls while playing?

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1443095]According to your nick you like me probably enjoy aviation. Well percentage is hard to predict as I will be damned if such stats exists but anyway your best bet is to just ask upfront if it is ok if you took some pics and even a vid of them. I am by far an expert and maby I take pics of like 50% of all the P4P girls I bring back. I have a bigger stock of pics but that is from regular girls with a bit different history and none P4P. Most of the girls I am with are ok with some pic and I even don't ask until we are back at my place. If a girls says no I say ok. It is not that important for me so I end the session bcs I can not get a pic from her.

Just work on the chemistry, create a playful mood and say you will never make use of the pics others than for your personal use. Some girls are, from very good reasons, afraid of getting their nude pic (in combination with face) out in the open. When I come to think of it I can not not remember a girl saying no to a photo (nude yes) with clothes. Often I don't mind take photo only with clothes so I just skip it but that is another story.

You just use common sense and you should not have to pay more but maby be a bit more generous with your tip so the next mongerer out there also can have his pics. LOL[/QUOTE]