Seoul

[QUOTE=LeLion;2965608]I went to see Cherry about a month ago, she is still good. There was a short skinny girl there as well at Evergreen, anyone have any experience with her? Haven't seen her before.[/QUOTE]Not sure Evergreen is even open now that Bean is gone. I walked through there at 6:00 AM weekend morning and it was closed. Pandora was closed, too, so maybe they're both parting ways, hopefully not.

I have been on this site for a long time and I think I only have given one review earlier. Since I find a lot of information here useful, I thought it was time for me to give something back.

I have been to Seoul several times but haven't had the opportunity to test the local arena until now.

I'm going to tell you directly, that once in a while I like to try ladyboys, and since it was long time since I did, it was one of the things I wanted to check.

I stayed in Itaewon, at Imperial Palace Boutique Hotel, very convenient with the subway and airport shuttle just outside the hotel, and ok rooms.

I like to stay in bars, so the first thing I visited was the Grand Old Opry. A legendary bar with the same Korean lady owner since 1974 (if I remember correctly).

Cheap gin and tonic, even cheaper than beer (KRW 3500), both Korean and Western people. I met a Korean lady (not a hooker, this is not the place to meet them) in the bar. She was a at the level of drunk that she thought she spoke good English, but it was really hard to understand her. After some hugs and very close to kissing (they don't like to kiss in public), we where looking at leaving together. Suddenly she got second thought and said she had to go home. At this time she was very drunk so it would probably not had been good sex anyway.

A bit disappointed I walked up the hill, passing a ladyboy bar. The door opened and a ok looking ladyboy asked me to come in. More than a bit drunk, I decided to do. I was the only customer inside so 3 ladys and the mamasan came and sit at my table. I order a drink and it took only 10 seconds until Mamasan asked me to buy everyone a drink. Being on the scene for may years, I know how to say no. She was VERY pushy and asked me to buy drinks to the girls but I explained I wanted to enjoy a drink by myself first and then I might buy drinks to one girl. There was one girl I was interested in so I asked how much. Mamasan answered 300.000. I said no way, and that I was only interested if she could come with me to my hotel and stay the whole night. She said vey expensive, 1,000,000. I said it was crazy and that I could pay 300,000. She said no, 300,000 for quick in backside room. I said no, and that I was going to leave. One oof the girls whispered in my ear that she was ok with 300,000. But at this point I was not in the mood anymore and left. I walked to top of the hill and turned right, There was another LB bar that invited me in. Again, only me. The 2 ladies was very friendly and calm and also the drink price was ok, KRW 20,000 (which in normal bars is expensive). One of hem looked ok and she agreed on 300,000 following me to the hotel. I had no idea if the hotel was girl friendly or not. The elevator is placed a bit a away from the reception. If it was because the hotel staff didn't see us or if it was ok, I don't know. She was ok but had a fetish that she wanted me to have silk socks. I did mind if it turned her on. After drinking all night, I had problem to cum.

So the next day I wanted to find something different. I had read about Anma's here and other sites, but always thought it was to expensive for 1 hour. But wit all the hassle and costs for the drinks the night before, I thought I will check it out. I found King Anma (you can google it and find the address). On the homepage is says it costs KW 280.000 for 1 hour. I didn't pre-book, took an Uber there (KRW 10.000) and went in. I was the only one in the bar (waiting area). A lady came to me and explained that it costs 300.000. I said I only had 280.000 (which I had) and that the home page said 280.000. She explained it is the price for Koreans. Promising I would pay 320.000, she was ok with 280.000. She gave me a power drink, similar to Red Bull, and asked me what kind of girl I liked. I said slim but with some curves and not to small boobs. She asked me to wait, it took probably 20 minutes. I was then escorted to a room where a beautiful young girl waited for me. She wear only underwear, and had an amazing body and pretty face. Maybe her boobs was on the smaller size but ok. Definitely 8/10, maybe a 9. She spoke some English, asked me to take cloths of and shower. She cleaned and showered me, gave me a towel to dry up while she showered. I was not sure if she was going to massage me or not so play head down, but she asked me to turn around. Then she started to to BBB. There was mirrors in the ceiling and the walls, which gave me a good view on her work and her body. After a while I asked if I could eat her and she said ok. She sat on my face and let me taste her. Then she changed position to 69. She put on the rubber and sat on me. She leant towards me so we could kiss, and it was deep kisses. Again, amazing After some time she asked if I wanted to change position, so I did her from behind. Feeling this sexy body and seeing her in the mirrors was amazing. I played a little with her as (no fingers inside) , and she didn't say anything. Having a hangover, I had difficulties to cum, so she started to suck me again and playing with my nipples until I cum. I have explored many in Asia, this was definitely one of the best. For refence, her name was Che Won.

Next day (Monday) I went out again. Very empty in the Hill, only a few places opened. I went to another LB bar, close to Tiffany, o the second floor. The to girls who owns it was there, Very friendly, not pushy and not crazy price on drinks. I bought a bottle of Jack Daniels to share with both of them. Its not a full bottle, they pour it in smaller one. You get to spend time with them them behind a curtain and you can be very intimate with them. They took of my trousers and suck a bit, lot of kissing but no sex. Good and fun time but a bit expensive. Unfortunate, I can't remember what I paid.

After that I went to a close by bar called Eve, I think. Mostly locals. Again, I started to talk to a local lady, again not a hooker. Not the best looking but after many drinks, she looked doable. We went towards my hotel, but halfway there, she said she changed her mind and wanted to go instead. Wtf, 2 times?

I did try to get some company via Tinder and Thai Friendly. Got some contacts, where 2 was interested to meet. One was very clear that she wanted things like perfume or money, the other one just wanted to meet and take it from there. The one who wanted money for sex replied very strange so I skipped her, The other one started to asked about money just before meeting her. And this was only for meting her, so I said no.

Summary: I like simple local bars, meeting local people. Itaewon was the perfect place. But paying for play here is expensive.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2966684]Who can recommend a good massage or other place that offers "dong-ban shower" meaning showering together with the woman before the Deed? Looking for a place cheaper than 200 k. Are there aby Thai, Chinese, or Vietnamese shops in Seoul with this service?[/QUOTE]Looking for this too.

[QUOTE=Loopy6;2970189]I have been on this site for a long time and I think I only have given one review earlier. Since I find a lot of information here useful, I thought it was time for me to give something back.

I have been to Seoul several times but haven't had the opportunity to test the local arena until now.

I'm going to tell you directly, that once in a while I like to try ladyboys, and since it was long time since I did, it was one of the things I wanted to check.

I stayed in Itaewon, at Imperial Palace Boutique Hotel, very convenient with the subway and airport shuttle just outside the hotel, and ok rooms.

I like to stay in bars, so the first thing I visited was the Grand Old Opry. A legendary bar with the same Korean lady owner since 1974 (if I remember correctly).

Cheap gin and tonic, even cheaper than beer (KRW 3500), both Korean and Western people. I met a Korean lady (not a hooker, this is not the place to meet them) in the bar. She was a at the level of drunk that she thought she spoke good English, but it was really hard to understand her. After some hugs and very close to kissing (they don't like to kiss in public), we where looking at leaving together. Suddenly she got second thought and said she had to go home. At this time she was very drunk so it would probably not had been good sex anyway.

A bit disappointed I walked up the hill, passing a ladyboy bar. The door opened and a ok looking ladyboy asked me to come in. More than a bit drunk, I decided to do. I was the only customer inside so 3 ladys and the mamasan came and sit at my table. I order a drink and it took only 10 seconds until Mamasan asked me to buy everyone a drink. Being on the scene for may years, I know how to say no. She was VERY pushy and asked me to buy drinks to the girls but I explained I wanted to enjoy a drink by myself first and then I might buy drinks to one girl. There was one girl I was interested in so I asked how much. Mamasan answered 300.000. I said no way, and that I was only interested if she could come with me to my hotel and stay the whole night. She said vey expensive, 1,000,000. I said it was crazy and that I could pay 300,000. She said no, 300,000 for quick in backside room. I said no, and that I was going to leave. One oof the girls whispered in my ear that she was ok with 300,000. But at this point I was not in the mood anymore and left. I walked to top of the hill and turned right, There was another LB bar that invited me in. Again, only me. The 2 ladies was very friendly and calm and also the drink price was ok, KRW 20,000 (which in normal bars is expensive). One of hem looked ok and she agreed on 300,000 following me to the hotel. I had no idea if the hotel was girl friendly or not. The elevator is placed a bit a away from the reception. If it was because the hotel staff didn't see us or if it was ok, I don't know. She was ok but had a fetish that she wanted me to have silk socks. I did mind if it turned her on. After drinking all night, I had problem to cum.

So the next day I wanted to find something different. I had read about Anma's here and other sites, but always thought it was to expensive for 1 hour. But wit all the hassle and costs for the drinks the night before, I thought I will check it out. I found King Anma (you can google it and find the address). On the homepage is says it costs KW 280.000 for 1 hour. I didn't pre-book, took an Uber there (KRW 10.000) and went in. I was the only one in the bar (waiting area). A lady came to me and explained that it costs 300.000. I said I only had 280.000 (which I had) and that the home page said 280.000. She explained it is the price for Koreans. Promising I would pay 320.000, she was ok with 280.000. She gave me a power drink, similar to Red Bull, and asked me what kind of girl I liked. I said slim but with some curves and not to small boobs. She asked me to wait, it took probably 20 minutes. I was then escorted to a room where a beautiful young girl waited for me. She wear only underwear, and had an amazing body and pretty face. Maybe her boobs was on the smaller size but ok. Definitely 8/10, maybe a 9. She spoke some English, asked me to take cloths of and shower. She cleaned and showered me, gave me a towel to dry up while she showered. I was not sure if she was going to massage me or not so play head down, but she asked me to turn around. Then she started to to BBB. There was mirrors in the ceiling and the walls, which gave me a good view on her work and her body. After a while I asked if I could eat her and she said ok. She sat on my face and let me taste her. Then she changed position to 69. She put on the rubber and sat on me. She leant towards me so we could kiss, and it was deep kisses. Again, amazing After some time she asked if I wanted to change position, so I did her from behind. Feeling this sexy body and seeing her in the mirrors was amazing. I played a little with her as (no fingers inside) , and she didn't say anything. Having a hangover, I had difficulties to cum, so she started to suck me again and playing with my nipples until I cum. I have explored many in Asia, this was definitely one of the best. For refence, her name was Che Won.

Next day (Monday) I went out again. Very empty in the Hill, only a few places opened. I went to another LB bar, close to Tiffany, o the second floor. The to girls who owns it was there, Very friendly, not pushy and not crazy price on drinks. I bought a bottle of Jack Daniels to share with both of them. Its not a full bottle, they pour it in smaller one. You get to spend time with them them behind a curtain and you can be very intimate with them. They took of my trousers and suck a bit, lot of kissing but no sex. Good and fun time but a bit expensive. Unfortunate, I can't remember what I paid.

After that I went to a close by bar called Eve, I think. Mostly locals. Again, I started to talk to a local lady, again not a hooker. Not the best looking but after many drinks, she looked doable. We went towards my hotel, but halfway there, she said she changed her mind and wanted to go instead. Wtf, 2 times?

I did try to get some company via Tinder and Thai Friendly. Got some contacts, where 2 was interested to meet. One was very clear that she wanted things like perfume or money, the other one just wanted to meet and take it from there. The one who wanted money for sex replied very strange so I skipped her, The other one started to asked about money just before meeting her. And this was only for meting her, so I said no.

Summary: I like simple local bars, meeting local people. Itaewon was the perfect place. But paying for play here is expensive.[/QUOTE]The Anmas sound like the Macau Saunas.

I haven't had much to add to the forum recently. Generally, things have been pretty quiet. My previous observation that there were fewer hyugetels than ever before, and fewer still that responded positively to my inquiries, remains just as true now as it did a year ago. In fact, when I last gauged the state of things in 2023, I was so disappointed that I decided to take an extended break from mongering in Korea.

Recently, however, I got out my phone, logged into StarOp, and made some calls to see what was available. To my surprise, I was able to book two appointments at two newly listed shops in my neighborhood, and I'm happy to report that they were both perfectly adequate. At each location I was met by an attractive, but not necessarily stunning, woman, who performed to my expectations. Importantly, both women were positive, lively, and fun.

On the downside, neither perfectly resembled their advertised photos, nor were they in their early 20's. I'm not a stickler about these things, I just like to know what I'm getting. Generally, it seems that fewer and fewer advertisements are using genuine photos, and most of the women employed are actually in their 30's. I've even noticed that a lot of places are forgoing photoshopped images altogether and are instead posting entirely AI generated women. This trend does not inspire much confidence, as now I never knows what type of lady will be standing there when the officetel door swings open. In my most recent experiences, I count myself as lucky not to have walked into a room with a fat or fugly woman. Unfortunately, this is the type of gamble that's required when making online bookings.

On a positive note, both of the places where I booked appointments had not increased their prices in the past year. I was still able to pay 80,000 won for the 30 minute course and an extra 30,000 won for bbfscip. This is notable because it's no longer the norm. Most advertised hyugetel seem to have increased their 30 minute course to 90,000 won while also listing an additional 10,000 to 20,000 won fee for most of the women in their lineup, effectively creating a 100,000 won starting price. With the current issues in the Korean economy (high unemployment, weak won, stagnant wages), the industry will be under a great deal of pressure not to increase prices any further, but I'm almost certain that the women will need more money in order to make their trips from Thailand to Korea worthwhile. Who knows how this play out in the future?

To go back to my most recent experiences, the service offered is generally as it always has been. Of the two women I met, one addressed my wishes and happily let me deep french kiss and DATY. The other refused DATY and only gave light lip kisses, but her BJ skills were top notch and she did some proper deep throating and even a bit of gagging as well. I'm always surprised by what the woman will and won't do as it doesn't always come across in their adverts nor in my initial characterization of the type of woman that they seem to be. The deep throat girl, for instance, even refused missionary, but was perfectly happy to do cowgirl and doggy style. And surprisingly, both women, completely unprompted, pushed my legs up in the air and gave me a sloppy rimjob.

To sum up, I guess what I'm saying is what I said a year ago: service is still available and it still feels great to nut in one of these women, but it's also not as good as it used to be. And considering how so few hyugetels offer me service these days, it doesn't bode well for non-Koreans who want to make appointments, especially those of you who have yet to make a single booking, and particularly for those who don't know Korean.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2966727]Amazing news. Time for a weekend trip to Korea. Thanks for the tip.[/QUOTE]Stopped by this weekend and she's still there working with her counterpart of many moons, Mandy?

On a side note, I've known 'Mandy' for a long long time and reported on her extensively. Hands down she was the most beautiful woman on the Hill back when I first met her and this was when the Hill was full of shops, 3-4 girls per. The first time I had a go with her, I wanted to marry her. Unfortunately the years are not kind to any woman in that profession (Hill or otherwise) and she's no exception.

I'd seen her gradually decline over time, a little more pudge here, a few wrinkles there, but this time when I saw her, I was shocked at the toll. It's an unfortunate and sad tale. In addition to once being a gorgeous woman, she's also a kind person with a great personality. She has a croon to her laugh that always makes me smile and she's spent hours telling some of her stories to me that had me laughing so hard my jaws hurt (ask her about the smell of fisting a man).

Her heart is good, but the body has long given up on her and I hope that she finds a way to exit the game before it's too late. In the end, it's just another case of the toll that their profession takes.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2968589]Not sure Evergreen is even open now that Bean is gone. I walked through there at 6:00 AM weekend morning and it was closed. Pandora was closed, too, so maybe they're both parting ways, hopefully not.[/QUOTE]Update- it is still open, the lights were burning and Cherry was there at 10:00 pm last night.

I had heard good things about this place so I had some free time during the day and I decided to go and check it out.

The price is a little steep about 280 k ish, somewere around there. You walk in and the mamasan takes you to a waiting area and gets your information and asks what kind of girl you like. I asked for a girl with big tits and that's exactly who she got me. Take a shower and wait for them to grab you. They take you to the elevator and on the other side is the girl whos been chosen for you. She was very pretty and she was slim with big enhanced tits. I prefer natural to play with but these looked amazing so can't complain. I think she said her name was BiBi.

We went to the room and I smoked a ciggarette while we had some small talk. I complimented her a lot which she seemed to like and got her into a relaxed easy going mood. She took me to the shower room and washed me quickly with water and had me lay down on the shower bed. She got on top of me and gave a body 2 body rub with lots of lube, rubbing her tits all over my body. Afterwards she had me flip over and she put some more lube on and gave me a body rub from the front, she rubbed her tits all over me and in between my jr. She started rubbing her pussy on my jr as well back and forth but not inserting it. She started an amazing BBBJ and jerking me and then she had me move to the bed after washing me off.

Dried off and went to the bed and had me lay down and relax. She got on top of me and and slowly brought her tits to my face and had me suck on them for a while while and then we started making out which was awesome, really got me hard. She then put on the hat with her mouth and sucked me a little bit more before she started CG. She was riding me on top while I was playing with her tits and after a short time she had me switch. I had her in mish which was the best view for her big titties. I was doing mish while playing with her tits and sucking on them and she even let me pound her pretty rough which felt amazing. They have mirrors on the side of the walls so you can view yourself pounding away. After some time I shot in the bag and we collapsed on the bed and she cuddled up to me while we lay there and talk for a little bit more, then she got me washed up and walked to the elevator and gave me a hug on the way out.

The place is pretty nice and I would definitely go again. If the price is too steep you may feel like there is better value out there but if you want a really good time in a nice pampered place then you can't go wrong here.

I did go again but I will write that review some other time.

Here are some of latest videos of Miari and YDP RLD I found Selection looks good.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWpBK4JUZOQ[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06OYyZY5p4[/URL]

Will have about 6 hrs connection in ICN. Do I have enough time to spend if I go through the immigration and go to gangnam for a little bit fun?

Was anyone there in Seoul 2002 world cup? I can only imagine all the red light districts were open even more.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2975517]Was anyone there in Seoul 2002 world cup? I can only imagine all the red light districts were open even more.[/QUOTE]No doubt a few of the old timers were here then. I was here 2000 and 2003, before and after. TBH, red light districts then were huge and popular, but were every bit anti-foreigner as they are now. 588 was hit, but mostly miss, especially at night. There was definitely an 'A' row that was off limts to the foreigners. Yongsan was in the process of shutting down by 2003. Others were similar.

Not to be a downer, but more bad news on the state of the red lights in Pyeongtaek. About a year ago, it was pretty busy at night even if you couldn't touch the goods. Window shopping was still a nice go and fun to see what was possible. In the last year, the police have gone through and pretty much shut it down. I snuck into a shop with a pretty decent looking K girl a month ago and when I went back last week, red x's were painted over the windows. There are maybe four or five girls working, but that is all. They've all been run out and the 'No Foreigners' sign is now hanging by a thread, flapping in the breeze, unneeded if there's no longer a district.

That, coupled with the Hooker Hill demise, really is the sad state of Korean mongering. Although there are a pockets of happiness with a large number of Thai massage shops in certain areas, if I wanted Thai, I'd go to the source.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2976110]No doubt a few of the old timers were here then. I was here 2000 and 2003, before and after. TBH, red light districts then were huge and popular, but were every bit anti-foreigner as they are now. 588 was hit, but mostly miss, especially at night. There was definitely an 'A' row that was off limts to the foreigners. Yongsan was in the process of shutting down by 2003. Others were similar.

Not to be a downer, but more bad news on the state of the red lights in Pyeongtaek. About a year ago, it was pretty busy at night even if you couldn't touch the goods. Window shopping was still a nice go and fun to see what was possible. In the last year, the police have gone through and pretty much shut it down. I snuck into a shop with a pretty decent looking K girl a month ago and when I went back last week, red x's were painted over the windows. There are maybe four or five girls working, but that is all. They've all been run out and the 'No Foreigners' sign is now hanging by a thread, flapping in the breeze, unneeded if there's no longer a district.

That, coupled with the Hooker Hill demise, really is the sad state of Korean mongering. Although there are a pockets of happiness with a large number of Thai massage shops in certain areas, if I wanted Thai, I'd go to the source.[/QUOTE]Thanks Have you been to Wonju? I've heard they have RLDs there.

I'm looking for anywhere that offers shower together. Called "dongban shower" in Korean. With FS for 200 k won or less. Anyone got a recommendation? I'll post a review of any place I end up visiting, good or bad.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2978492]I'm looking for anywhere that offers shower together. Called "dongban shower" in Korean. With FS for 200 k won or less. Anyone got a recommendation? I'll post a review of any place I end up visiting, good or bad.[/QUOTE]Doesn't answer your question. However at ydp rld whenever paid for a hour or more with the regulars, could ask to use the shower before. Was not together, as the bathrooms are old style. Hour cost was 300 for A row and 200 for the others.