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[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1293607]A guy from Spain emailed me the following tonight: "Don't go to Sosua, there are bad and expensive hookers there, they have more kids than my grandma. All girls there are liars, all are married with a chulo that manages her money. I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them,."[/QUOTE]Does he fuck the girl and their parents at the same time? Not getting why he would care if the girls in Sosua are liars either. I don't know many guys running down there for their honesty rating.
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[QUOTE=Psychman;1293533]Well, it looks like it is time to wrap this up. I missed a few sessions and a couple of days, but you all do not need every detail. Hopefully, I provided some sense of the scene and what it is like.[/QUOTE]I read every word. Maybe I do need a life. You covered every base. The only thing I saw missing was a session with a Classico girl. I would have loved to see how that would have influenced your thoughts. Although I guess your La Passion girl could double as your Classico experience since she did actually see you there. (BTW, what happened with the guys saying La Passion girls were not allowed to freelance?)
[QUOTE=Psychman;1293533]Four, only during the coolest months of the year.[/QUOTE]There are no coolest months!
[QUOTE=Psychman;1293533]Overall, I rate Sosua as even with CR, above Tijuana and Frankfurt, below LOS, Peru and Colombia, which are a step above, and below the PI, which, IMHO, is the best place I have been.[/QUOTE]I agree with every one of your observations about Sosua. But really liking Manila? And IMHO your rating is spot on except that I would switch LOS and PI.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1293636]I read every word. Maybe I do need a life. You covered every base. The only thing I saw missing was a session with a Classico girl. I would have loved to see how that would have influenced your thoughts. Although I guess your La Passion girl could double as your Classico experience since she did actually see you there. (BTW, what happened with the guys saying La Passion girls were not allowed to freelance?)
There are no coolest months!
I agree with every one of your observations about Sosua. But really liking Manila? And IMHO your rating is spot on except that I would switch LOS and PI. [/QUOT.
No coolest months- I suspected that the guys who told me November was cooler were trying to drag me back. Manila is certainly not for everyone, and I totally understand why some people hate it- you have to love foolish megolopolisis to even tolerate Manila (and I do love such places, so.)
As far as the LOS verse PI debate- you know, six of one, half a dozen of another. Some guys seem to connect more to one than the other. One of my wingmen on this trip is not an LOS fan, and says that his sessions there (one trip) were mechanical and robotic. Not my experience at all, but it goes to show you that YMMV, right?
You are correct that about my not pulling a Classicos chica, although three of the women I was with I saw at Classicos, so mabye that counts. As I said, if I go again, I will focus more on the disco, and perhaps more on waitresses and other less obviously sharky chicas.
PS...thanks for taking the time to read it...from reading your posts, sounds like you have plenty of "a life." :)
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[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1293607]A guy from Spain emailed me the following tonight: "Don't go to Sosua, there are bad and expensive hookers there, they have more kids than my grandma. All girls there are liars, all are married with a chulo that manages her money. I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them, for a fraction of the price, they are girlfriends and provide GFE experience with their relatives blessings. Small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you. They ask for triple the price and you got lucky if they do not stole your money."[/QUOTE]So apparently he is paying these small town girls 500 pesos or so and they are being pimped by their parents.
The only problem with this game plan could be the lack of suitable amenities such as tourist quality hotels and restaurants and the general level of boredom and poverty in these small towns. Probably "going native" in this manner does provide an interesting anthropological experience, but most people probably would not enjoy it very much.
However one has to wonder about the reliability of this man's information. Admittedly some of these issues are a matter of opinion, and the claim that most girls are financially supporting Dominican guys has been raised here before, but to say "you got lucky if they do not (steal) your money" seems like hyperbole to me. Certainly something to look out for, but not as prevalent as he says.
Also "small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you" seems to ignore the fact that many of the Sosua chicas are also small town girls, so the difference, according to him, is between small town girls who stay at home and are pimped by their parents for very small amounts of money and small town girls who choose to leave home and be pimped in Sosua by chulos for a bit more money, albeit in a more convivial atmosphere.
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[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv; 1293620]OYES BELLECO! Jajaa.
Boricua, I will be surprised if you like Sosua. Lots of hardcore putas asking for working girl american prices. When I was there last year the talent was not what I experienced in 2005. I was getting campo girls that were looking for a good time.
I went twice in 2011 both time were exceedingly displeasing because I like local non-pros. Given you spanish skills I see you making mental conexcions with chicas and maybe gettinga chica who has a 9to5 job. Idk just my guess, might be wrong. BB has great talent as well as pasions. The freelancers idk how you will mesh with them.
Peace.
BBL[/QUOTE]Hey Oso bellaco jejeje! I went to Sosua last February and enjoyed the place and the chicas a lot. Maybe I was lucky and got good service providers but I have no complaints about that trip except that food on some restaurants was mediocre. Finding that over 60% of the chicas I saw on Classicos my first night there were very hot was a pleasant surprise. Besides the pros I met a Badoo chica from Puerto Plata who provided excellent GFE twice. I am going to see her again. I also have lined up two chicas for my first day in Santo Domingo.
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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1293733]So apparently he is paying these small town girls 500 pesos or so and they are being pimped by their parents.
Also "small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you" seems to ignore the fact that many of the Sosua chicas are also small town girls, so the difference, according to him, is between small town girls who stay at home and are pimped by their parents for very small amounts of money and small town girls who choose to leave home and be pimped in Sosua by chulos for a bit more money, albeit in a more convivial atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Agree with the last paragraph completely.
I have never been to a dirt poor country (LOL, I am from one) looking for women and though I have heard of parents pimping out, I find that to be a stretch. Now my experience in the DR is very much circumscribed but even then, when women came to see me, say in Santiago from surrounding towns- As far as three hours' drive, (I would imagine some of such places would be "small towns") I never saw any attempt to offer their goods in exchange for money, nor did I see the abject poverty one speaks of. All had cell phones etc and were cyberchat savvy. If anything, time and again, I saw in these women, an interest in something "serious" and time and again, I paid them some money, fed them and sent them home with thanks for taking the trouble to come and see me.
So my question is: is the small town girl a figment of imagination in these times of facebook? Is there anyone here who can speak of personal experience instead of hand me downs? The one reason why I would be interested in going to the proverbial "small" towns would definitely be the anthropological experience. I can handle the material inconvenience, I think, but time is the only f...ng issue holding me back.
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[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1293806]So my question is: is the small town girl a figment of imagination in these times of facebook? Is there anyone here who can speak of personal experience instead of hand me downs? The one reason why I would be interested in going to the proverbial "small" towns would definitely be the anthropological experience. I can handle the material inconvenience, I think, but time is the only f.ng issue holding me back.[/QUOTE]That is really part of my point. I notice that often when people want to say very negative things about the women in Sosua, or about Sosua in general, they don't want to stick to specific first-hand anecdotes about the bad things that happened to them that made them decide not to visit Sosua any more, but just dish out generalities and platitudes about how all of them will steal from you. How about writing about the occasion when a girl stole from you, with all the circumstances, and some discussion of how this could have been avoided with suitable precautions?
Of course this example was just something posted second hand from an e-mail, but it fits into the general pattern. Hopefully Boricuaonline told his correspondent in Spain that he had more favorable experiences in Sosua than the Spaniard.
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[QUOTE=Psychman;1293533]Well, it looks like it is time to wrap this up. I missed a few sessions and a couple of days, but you all do not need every detail. Hopefully, I provided some sense of the scene and what it is like. Feel free to ask questions and I can respond.[/QUOTE] Enjoyed reading your Magnum Opus. Thank you for taking so much time to write down your thoughts (and some were rather insightful). Evidently you been writing about it even before your trip started, which for me was a first time! Kudos.
Question: What is LOS? And what is the definition of a "spinner". I see the word here but never sure of its intended meaning.
Observations:
1. You mostly went with professional women and so expecting them to kiss might have been a little too much? I found in at least two experiences, women from clasico were not averse to "good" kissing. Personally, I feel kissing works well only when there is some chemistry so it does not work well for me for random picks.
2. I enjoyed your foray into the "other side" of town. The real Sosua, even though it was short and in other instances, I learned from your comparative analyses of various latin american countries, about which I know nothing.
3. In that town of Sosua, all these women congregate to make some money and so I am not surprised that some are aggressive, especially those that you do not want as you astutely observed. I would warn you however not to extrapolate from that experience and generalize in terms of the country. In my experience, women in the parts I have been to, in the DR are just about as normal as anywhere else; Some downright shy.
4. Finally, given that you are fluent in Spanish, Sosua is a good landing spot and it certainly gives you an initial vista preparing you to explore others locations.
P.S.: I loved the analogy of "thai food without rice, sashimi without wasabi" !
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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1293807]That is really part of my point. I notice that often when people want to say very negative things about the women in Sosua, or about Sosua in general, they don't want to stick to specific first-hand anecdotes about the bad things that happened to them that made them decide not to visit Sosua any more, but just dish out generalities and platitudes about how all of them will steal from you. How about writing about the occasion when a girl stole from you, with all the circumstances, and some discussion of how this could have been avoided with suitable precautions?
Of course this example was just something posted second hand from an e-mail, but it fits into the general pattern. Hopefully Boricuaonline told his correspondent in Spain that he had more favorable experiences in Sosua than the Spaniard.[/QUOTE]I met and enjoyed much the company of a "Juan", at the hotel in Puerto Plata I stayed in November last year. Delightful curmudgeon of a Spaniard when you do not know him, he was there doing 2 months at that time and loved the place. He spoke practically no English which made it particularly interesting for me, especially his thoughts on the local language. He got lucky as once we went to dinner, the girl staying with me (who you met this time) brought a friend of hers along. So I guess there are Spaniards and Spaniards.
In general however, I see no point in dissing one particular place or another. It would be nice to learn from first hand bad experiences but even those are not too useful either (after all if we did learn from others' experiences, there would be no war any longer LOL). Your own experiences are what makes you who you are.
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[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1293815]Enjoyed reading your Magnum Opus. Thank you for taking so much time to write down your thoughts (and some were rather insightful). Evidently you been writing about it even before your trip started, which for me was a first time! Kudos.
Question: What is LOS? And what is the definition of a "spinner". I see the word here but never sure of its intended meaning.
Observations:
1. You mostly went with professional women and so expecting them to kiss might have been a little too much? I found in at least two experiences, women from clasico were not averse to "good" kissing. Personally, I feel kissing works well only when there is some chemistry so it does not work well for me for random picks.
2. I enjoyed your foray into the "other side" of town. The real Sosua, even though it was short and in other instances, I learned from your comparative analyses of various latin american countries, about which I know nothing.
3. In that town of Sosua, all these women congregate to make some money and so I am not surprised that some are aggressive, especially those that you do not want as you astutely observed. I would warn you however not to extrapolate from that experience and generalize in terms of the country. In my experience, women in the parts I have been to, in the DR are just about as normal as anywhere else; Some downright shy.
4. Finally, given that you are fluent in Spanish, Sosua is a good landing spot and it certainly gives you an initial vista preparing you to explore others locations.
P. S. : I loved the analogy of "thai food without rice, sashimi without wasabi"![/QUOTE]If you think that was long, you should see some of my other trip reports. So, to respond. LOS equals Land of Smiles, or Thailand. Second, I have never been to a place where I have not had over 90% "luck" getting even the hardcore pros to make out, so I am not sure what to say about that, other than this is my experience. Third, I totally. 100% am sure that this was only about SOSUA, and NOT about the DR in general. I know nothing about the DR outside of a very small band- my trip report was only about one place and one time. You are 100% correct that no generalization should be made form my trip report to other parts of the DR. I would love to return to the DR and tool around. Sadly (or fortunatly) my work life guides that vast majority of my travels, even for play, so I am not sure when I would be back. I hope so, but we shall see. Were I not with a friend who really wanted (and needed for health reasons) to stay put a bit, I would have explored more.
Thanks for the response.
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[QUOTE=Psychman;1293857]Thanks for the response.[/QUOTE]Well written, very thoughtful posts, thanks for contributing.
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Spinner
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1293815]And what is the definition of a "spinner".[/QUOTE]A really thin girl, so light that you can figuratively spin like a basketball while she is riding cowboy. The term is used mostly in Asia.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1293865]A really thin girl, so light that you can figuratively spin like a basketball while she is riding cowboy. The term is used mostly in Asia.[/QUOTE]Ah. Thanks. Mystery solved!
I have been to a whole bunch of South East Asian cities. Like 50 times (for work) not to speak of my two year sojourn in Singapore but then, there was no internet forums like this (or at least I did not know) so never heard the term. Besides, I always travel alone but for some local guys, at times, whether it was Djakarta or Kuching or Taipei or Bangkok or Hong Kong. To me, while Bangkok is much spoken about, Jakarta is THE place. Korea is another interesting place for a Man. Japan was bad. Even with a Japanese friend calling, getting someone to visit an "overseas friend" was like pulling teeth in Nagoya; this in stark contrast to all places where a Gaijin is much sought after. See the D. R. Manila, I only went a couple of times and still remember, the first time, went to Makati Mandarin and within minutes of checking in, women were calling in. Evidently, they were paying the front desk for info. However, my reaction, seeing the typical massage parlors, was unenthusiastic. So seeing people's positive comments here about the Philippines, evidently, I thought, people are speaking of parts I have no clue about. But my knowledge is also dated, it was prior to 2000 and the Philippines are doing much better now, economy wise.
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Small town sweety
I have 24 year old sweety who has a regular job. She barely make ends meet. I met her on Cupid. She is frm Sanfrancisco merconis. She came to SD to be with me. For her it was a nice vacation. She said I could have anything but the Culo. On my next trip I stayed in her house and met everyone and the family. Sex with her has been the best. She loves haveing me eat her pussy. The sounds that come from her are priceless. I enjoy hanging out with her dancing the beach everything.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1293806]Agree with the last paragraph completely.
I have never been to a dirt poor country (LOL, I am from one) looking for women and though I have heard of parents pimping out, I find that to be a stretch. Now my experience in the DR is very much circumscribed but even then, when women came to see me, say in Santiago from surrounding towns- As far as three hours' drive, (I would imagine some of such places would be "small towns") I never saw any attempt to offer their goods in exchange for money, nor did I see the abject poverty one speaks of. All had cell phones etc and were cyberchat savvy. If anything, time and again, I saw in these women, an interest in something "serious" and time and again, I paid them some money, fed them and sent them home with thanks for taking the trouble to come and see me.
So my question is: is the small town girl a figment of imagination in these times of facebook? Is there anyone here who can speak of personal experience instead of hand me downs? The one reason why I would be interested in going to the proverbial "small" towns would definitely be the anthropological experience. I can handle the material inconvenience, I think, but time is the only f. Ng issue holding me back.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OldKool;1293921]I have 24 year old sweety who has a regular job. She barely make ends meet. I met her on Cupid. She is frm Sanfrancisco merconis. She came to SD to be with me. For her it was a nice vacation. She said I could have anything but the Culo. On my next trip I stayed in her house and met everyone and the family. Sex with her has been the best. She loves haveing me eat her pussy. The sounds that come from her are priceless. I enjoy hanging out with her dancing the beach everything.[/QUOTE]Funny, I know a 27 year old from San Franisco de Macoris too.not in the sense you do though. BTW, it is not a "small" town. It is the third largest city in the DR, immediately after SD and Santiago! I thinks of places in the boondocks when I think of small town. LOL.