FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[QUOTE=DMD2017;2045668]About Villa Venus, it seems to be one of the few places where you pay first up front before sex. I wonder if there were a lot of "dine and dash" people in the past, or did people used to get robbed there and then couldn't pay for the girl after sex?

I remember waiting for quite some time in the room (about 5-10 minutes or so) after we book the time and the girl left to freshen up first. Sometimes I lose the erection and mood during that wait. When she asked, "What's wrong? I felt awkward and didn't know what to say (when I really wanted to tell her the waiting is a downer)![/QUOTE]At last corroboration from another member (a regular member of only 2 previous posts) of the observation that I made several days ago, that the girls at VV are deliberately making punters wait for several minutes in the room on their own with a stiff whilst they 'freshen up'. Which to all intents and purposes means they are taking the time without being observed to squirt as much gel up their cunnys as it can hold so that when the guy is fucking them the girl doesn't feel a thing (and neither does the guy).

I haven't noticed this before at VV, although to be honest I have only visited sporadically over the past couple of years or so, but it seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon. Or at least only recently that the girls have all decided together that they would adopt this ploy. All four girls that I went with on a recent visit all adopted this tactic and I haven't noticed it at other places like Arabella, Grimberg and F39.

As for DMD's reporting that he had to pay for his sessions in advance, I can comment that this has only ever happened to me once at an RTC and that was a a year or so ago and again at Villa Venus, no where else. I was so surprised at the time when the girl asked for money in advance that I even went and checked with thekefrau who confirmed that this was the requirement. I avoided this club for a long while as a result and on my next visit the procedure was back to normal.

Also this club is still not bothering to display the photos or even the names of the girls that are working on a particular day. Something that I reported a while back. So it is difficult for the visitor to make the most from his visit. For example, checking the appearance of the girls on duty before deciding whether to part with the entrance fee or deciding whether he should wait to see if a girl that he knows is on duty becomes available later. Apparently the name card display cabinet became damaged and they have simply decided not to bother replacing it, even though all the other similar clubs have this.

In many ways this place provides cynically poor customer service compared to the others.

Not to mention the problems with damage to cars left outside the club. On my last visit a patron mentioned that his car wing mirror was maliciously bent and twisted by a passerby although his car was not broken into.

Paying upfront. Not at Venus this week when I went.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046353]Paying upfront. Not at Venus this week when I went.[/QUOTE]Thank gawd they don't do that again! I mean, it makes me, the customer, feel like I can't be trusted. It's also a mood killer (other than the wait time before sex).

I went with 3 girls at Villa Venus last week.

All 3 had me wait in the room for about 5 minutes before coming back and getting down to action.

None of the 3 asked for payment upfront and were paid as usual at the safety deposit boxes after the time together.

I went with Ina, Marissa and Alexia. All were quite pretty to me, with Ina probably being the best looking one with amazing super firm and perky B / C cup tits (the benefit of being only 20 years old with no signs of post-baby damage). Marissa was by far and away the most enthusiastic in bed.

Went to Villa Venus last week. GPS was my best friend, putting me right at the front door around 2030. I parked 50 feet away. The area is very industrial, but no one was around. I had not heard of any car issues beforehand, or I would have been more worried.

Walked up, rang the bell, got buzzed in. Very nice, slim, naked girl opens the door and shows me to the counter. I pay my 30 entrance fee, drop my valuables in the small locker upstairs, go downstairs to put my clothes in the big locker, shower, come back up wearing my towel and a smile. I scan the place, and see only 5-6 girls. And only one girl I'd like to take to a room, the girl who opened the door. I sit for a while on the couch one away from her in order to keep looking around. A few other girls come and go, but again, I only want one.

I get up and sit next to her. She introduces herself as Larissa from Romania. Thin, small breasts, maybe 165 cm. Long black hair. Pretty face, but her teeth could use some work. No tattoos. In seconds, she's kissing me and stroking me under the towel, and yes, I want to go to the room. She goes to get the key and comes back immediately In the room, we lay down towels. If I am remembering correctly, she never leaves the room. The only reason I mention this is because of recent posts where people have brought this up. Excellent BBBJ. She puts a little bit of lube on her hand, maybe the size of a pea? Rubs it in. Excellent sex in multiple positions with good eye contact, moaning, soft touching. Overall, an excellent session. Clean up, she leads me to a separate bathroom where we both wash up. Back to the locker where I hand her the paperwork. This is after the session, and the only reason I mention that is because of other recent posts. Fabulous way to spend 30. Hug and kiss goodbye.

I go back and sit on the same couch. No other ladies I'd like to see. Two guys are sitting on a couch on the other side of the room. I think one is an ISG member I have exchanged some PMs with a couple of times. Feeling like a kid in school, I introduce myself and sit on the next couch over. We have an interesting conversation over the next half hour or so. I notice the pregnant girl and am a bit shocked. I did not get a look at her face, so cannot comment. Suddenly, the management tells us that they are closing soon. Really? It's not even 2200! Oh well, the others have to leave, but I want one more session.

I sit next to Diana from Romania. Tiny girl, can't be more than 145 cm. But she's got the curvy body of a woman, pretty face, nice breasts. She kisses me then says we should go to the room right away since everyone has to leave. No problem. Again, she does not leave the room. Again, just a little bit of lube. Very nice session. Her BBBJ and Asian cowgirl are fantastic. Flip her all around into every position I can think of. She's so small and flexible! Pay her at the lockers afterwards.

I am the last guy in the building. I take a quick shower, get dressed, gather all my stuff, thank the ladies still present, and leave. No issues at all at my car. Again, I mention this because of other posts.

I had a very good time at Villa Venus. 90 very very well spent. I was honored to meet a couple of members here of long standing. The lineup was pretty small, and I was not very impressed. I roomed with the only two worthwhile, IMHO. That being said, I wasn't expecting a long line of Victoria Secret models, so I am not complaining.

Hadn't been feeling well early this week, but was running out of time in FKK land, so I figured I'd try Freude 39. GPS dropped me right at their door with no problems around noon. Rang the bell, got buzzed in. Paid my 30 entry, was given a towel and two keys, one for small locker upstairs, one for big locker downstairs. Went down, undressed, took a shower, and changed.

Came back up to have a look around. Overall, was not very impressed with the lineup. Maybe 10 girls, and no real lookers. About as many guys. But I noticed one girl with a nice face and pretty smile. Sat next to her and introduced myself.

She says her name is Anna, and she's from Romania. Shoulder length light brown hair. Maybe 165 cm. Pretty face, average body. She stroked me softly and Little Trip was willing, so off to the room. Nice soft kisses, good BBBJ. Covered sex in multiple positions isn't bad. But I'm still not 100% and things just aren't working for me. Oh well, probably should have rested another day instead of coming here. So we sit and chat for a bit, when suddenly she gets a shy, sexy smile. Slowly strokes and teases me with fingers and fingernails. Little Trip responds tentatively. She strokes and sucks me back to life, slowly but surely, until I finally bust in her hands. Wonderful! Most girls go straight from zero to full speed, but she did a great job of starting slowly and letting things build. Easily worth 30.

Pay her at the small lockers, then go downstairs to shower. Back up and wander around a little bit. More girls and more guys. Some nice, slim bodies, but not so great faces. One young girl is very good looking, but she looks very worried and is deep in conversation with another. Not sure why, but that puts me off of her. Finally, after getting some soda at the bar, I see a girl near the door. I grab a couch to watch her for a bit. She jumps up every time the bell rings to let a new guy in. I like her body, so I go and sit next to her.

Vanessa from Bulgaria, 160 cm, black hair to shoulder blades. Slim body. Nice, smallish breasts. Cuddly and LFK on the couch. Cuddly and DFK in the room. Excellent BBBJ. Excellent multiple positions in the room. Bust on her stomach. Very very nice. Another 30 well spent. Lots of hugs and kisses after in the room, and on the way up to the lockers.

I'm done and have to get going. Had a good time at Freude. Great way to spend 90 euro. Vanessa escorts me to the door as I'm leaving with a final hug and a few kisses.

[QUOTE=Triptogamont;2049056]
She says her name is Anna, and she's from Romania. Shoulder length light brown hair. Maybe 165 cm. Pretty face, average body. She stroked me softly and Little Trip was willing, so off to the room. Nice soft kisses, good BBBJ. Covered sex in multiple positions isn't bad. But I'm still not 100% and things just aren't working for me. Oh well, probably should have rested another day instead of coming here. So we sit and chat for a bit, when suddenly she gets a shy, sexy smile. Slowly strokes and teases me with fingers and fingernails. Little Trip responds tentatively. She strokes and sucks me back to life, slowly but surely, until I finally bust in her hands. Wonderful! Most girls go straight from zero to full speed, but she did a great job of starting slowly and letting things build. Easily worth 30.

Vanessa from Bulgaria, 160 cm, black hair to shoulder blades. Slim body. Nice, smallish breasts. Cuddly and LFK on the couch. Cuddly and DFK in the room. Excellent BBBJ. Excellent multiple positions in the room. Bust on her stomach. Very very nice. Another 30 well spent. Lots of hugs and kisses after in the room, and on the way up to the lockers..[/QUOTE]The two that you mentioned are probably not the two most appealing girls who ever worked at F39.

Anna is a very nice girl. I mean in terms of personality. Warm, caring, fun loving, attentive, affectionate. I have willed myself to go with her many times as she is always chasing me round the club when she sees me. The face is just about acceptable although a little haggard. But it is the body that lets her down badly. Soft bodied, round shouldered, droopy tits and a paunchy stomach. It would take supreme will power to get it up for her. Will power that I don't have. Shame, as she is a lovely girl.

Vanessa I believe is actually from Turkey not Bulgaria. That is what she told me anyway. When I first saw her over a year ago I was struck by the fact that she was petite, with a pert ass and long black hair which went all the way down to her butt. She has strong, dark eyebrows, almond eyes and long black eyelashes, so has a fairly striking face. If she catches you looking at her she likes to give you lots of little lingering gazes whilst smiling alluringly.

So I went with her but not sooner than we started than she warned me that I shouldn't come inside. Maybe she should have told me before we went to the room? I was going to go with what she said but then she warned me at least another couple of times during the sex just in case I forgot. This kind of killed the mood for me and irritated me a little so I decided that I might not completely comply and maybe put a little inside her and the rest outside. But she must have been listening for changes in my breathing because as soon as I started to come she immediately pulled away and all of it went on the towel we were lying on. I must have had a completely full tank because when I saw the amount that I had spilled on the towel instead of inside her I was a little gutted. It would have made a great creampie.

I never quite forgave her and when I saw her again a few months later she clearly remembered that we had gone together once but could not understand why I didn't want to go with her again even though she kept calling out to me whenever I walked past.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;2054569]The two that you mentioned are probably not the two most appealing girls who ever worked at F39.

Anna is a very nice girl. I mean in terms of personality. Warm, caring, fun loving, attentive, affectionate. I have willed myself to go with her many times as she is always chasing me round the club when she sees me. The face is just about acceptable although a little haggard. But it is the body that lets her down badly. Soft bodied, round shouldered, droopy tits and a paunchy stomach. It would take supreme will power to get it up for her. Will power that I don't have. Shame, as she is a lovely girl.

Vanessa I believe is actually from Turkey not Bulgaria. That is what she told me anyway. When I first saw her over a year ago I was struck by the fact that she was petite, with a pert ass and long black hair which went all the way down to her butt. She has strong, dark eyebrows, almond eyes and long black eyelashes, so has a fairly striking face. If she catches you looking at her she likes to give you lots of little lingering gazes whilst smiling alluringly..[/QUOTE]I was not very impressed by the lineup at Freude the day I went. But I wasn't expecting a whole lot either.

I chose Anna because of her face and smile. And because I hadn't seen Vanessa yet. I don't regret it, but I would not repeat.

I'm pretty sure Vanessa told me Bulgaria, but I could very well be wrong. Maybe she's Romanian and lying to us both. I thought she was easily the best looking girl I saw that day. She asked me not to finish inside also, but only once. I had no issue with that, because I tend to enjoy seeing the cum fly. I probably watch too much porn.

As I said in a post elsewhere, I'm probably one of those tourists that you regulars hate. I have an average session with a girl and walk away happy because it's still a lot cheaper than anything available where I normally play. If I went to these clubs all the time, I would definitely have to learn to be more selective and figure out who the best performers are.

Trip. Glad you found Larissa: she always gets me to finish, which makes her a class act from my point of view.

When I was last there theclub started to close well before 22.00, even though I was planning another session.

I'll be back at VV in a couple of weeks.

Has anybody been to V. V,Grimberg or Arabella after 1. Of July.

Has the New Law changed anything.

Please send a private Message if you don't want to Write on the forum.

Without talking about the services, I'd like to know if the prices have changed like in Dietz. Last time I checked, there was an happy hour in F39 but the prices of the sessions were too high (50€/30 min). Is it the same in VV and in Arabella?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2059562]Without talking about the services, I'd like to know if the prices have changed like in Dietz. Last time I checked, there was an happy hour in F39 but the prices of the sessions were too high (50/30 min). Is it the same in VV and in Arabella?[/QUOTE]Last time I was there in January, there was an 20 minutes 30 euro option.

Is thiis not the case anymore?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2059562]Without talking about the services, I'd like to know if the prices have changed like in Dietz. Last time I checked, there was an happy hour in F39 but the prices of the sessions were too high (50/30 min). Is it the same in VV and in Arabella?[/QUOTE]They were listed on the wall in both places when I went in early June. 30 for 20 minutes. I don't remember the pricing for 30,45, 60 minutes, sorry.

[QUOTE=Triptogamont;2059685]They were listed on the wall in both places when I went in early June. 30 for 20 minutes. I don't remember the pricing for 30,45, 60 minutes, sorry.[/QUOTE]Thank you. It must be 50 for 30 minutes and 60 for 40 or 45 min. So those clubs are now the same price as the upper-class clubs of NRW.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2059787]Thank you. It must be 50 for 30 minutes and 60 for 40 or 45 min. So those clubs are now the same price as the upper-class clubs of NRW.[/QUOTE]More expensive than Aca or Gold, for quite ugly girls when you can sometimes find real beauties at Aca.