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Given the large number of posts by people planning to come to Pattaya, there aren't many trip reports posted here.
Part of that is normal human nature, but its also due to the first time mongers who come to Pattaya and then fall in love with a bar girl. Since "their" bargirl is special, they don't post.
These are the guys who throw money at their bargirl, and buy her gold baht (which she sells once they leave).
I'll have boots on the ground this Friday / Saturday. Though granted I'm just a rookie on my second trip, I'll try to provide some brief summaries to help out the other mongers.
Some people are offended by mongers who overpay. You know, the guys who pay 10,000 baht for one night. And they certainly raise the going rate by overpaying.
But, the lonely guys who send ladies money when they go home do much more damage. Because most ladies are lazy, and if they have cash in hand will stop working, and blow their money on their Thai boyfriend or some Karaoke boy.
More to the point, if you send a lady money, you are training her to not want to see you. Because when you do show up, she has to work for money.
Many older bargirls have adult children. As a general rule, the daughters help to support their mom, some are bargirls themselves. But the adult sons leech off their mothers until the mothers have no cash or are dead. But some older bargirls bring their sons to Pattaya to work bar (cashier or bartender), and try to arrange something with a working bargirl who has cash. I have even seen bargirls trying to sell their son to a bargirl.
But most bargirls just send cash to their son when they get the call for money.
Thai men are much cleverer than bargirls when it comes to extracting money. Bargirls are pretty good at asking for money from customers via social media, but Thai men are better at face to face requests for money. They don't charge for sex, they just barrage the lady with reasons why she should give them money "I want to see you tomorrow, but my moto not work. I want to take it to the shop, but I have no money".
So even bargirls with many customers have zero in the bank, because they hand so much money to their boyfriends.
BTW, in Thai culture, a woman gives her lover money, and takes money from men she doesn't love.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2891734]
BTW, in Thai culture, a woman gives her lover money, and takes money from men she doesn't love.[/QUOTE]Please. Let us not confuse thai culture with bargirl culture.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2892210]Please. Let us not confuse thai culture with bargirl culture.[/QUOTE]He does it everyday. By now he should not be surprised by the actions of hookers. But for some reason he can not get enough of stalking them to know their every move.
Bargirls hate to admit they have customers.
This week, I set up a trip to Phuket later this year with a bargirl. I happened to ask her if she will have time to go, since she has lots of customers. Her response "I no have customers".
At the moment she sent that message, she was on Koh Larn, with a customer.
I know a 55 year old former bargirl from Chumphae who has hooked a Farang "boyfriend", and he is paying her to build a house for her to live in.
C'Mon. Guys, WTF is up with handing your money to Thai ladies?
I am in Brazil for a couple of months, so I get messages from Pattaya bargirls. But, I have to be careful:
If it's a quick question, like "when you come back to Pattaya?" I give them an answer, and then they usually say "bye".
But when they don't get to the point, and ask general questions, then I cut them off and say goodbye, because. Invariably - they are working up to asking me for money. Not just because I am a Farang, bargirls hit each other up for money, as well, but in person.
Note for rookies: bargirls don't like to ask for money, but often they are pressured to do so when their Thai boyfriend hits them up for cash.
Below is standard reasoning by individuals all over ISG who have no idea how markets work.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2891731]Some people are offended by mongers who overpay. [u]You know, the guys who pay 10,000 baht for one night.[/u] And they certainly raise the going rate by overpaying.[/QUOTE]Said it before and I will say it again, one monger does not make a market. The market is made up of a large group of mongers that have statistical significance. Mongers paying 10000 THB a night are outliers. Or they may well be average or below in the market they are operating in. No one knows. Because we are not part of the transaction. There is no pussy market showing the prices going and down like is it is Wall Street homes. [B]LOL![/B].
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2891731]But, the lonely guys who send ladies money when they go home do much more damage. Because most ladies are lazy, and if they have cash in hand will stop working, and blow their money on their Thai boyfriend or some Karaoke boy.[/QUOTE]They only do damage when they pay the prostitutes you like fuck holmes. They do not damage me. Because I know there are girls in Issan turing 18 everyday and ready to get on that bus to Pattaya to air out that pussy for money.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2891731]More to the point, if you send a lady money, you are training her to not want to see you. Because when you do show up, she has to work for money.[/QUOTE]More to the point, if you are really in Brazil right now why the fuck do you care?
I have never been to Brazil but if the girls actually look in real life the way they do in the reports my boys are sending back to me, if was there I certainly would not be wasting my time preaching about bargirl culture to individuals who really don't give a fuck.
[B]How you like me now?[/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2894327]Below is standard reasoning by individuals all over ISG who have no idea how markets work.
Said it before and I will say it again, one monger does not make a market. The market is made up of a large group of mongers that have statistical significance. Mongers paying 10000 THB a night are outliers. Or they may well be average or below in the market they are operating in. No one knows. Because we are not part of the transaction. There is no pussy market showing the prices going and down like is it is Wall Street homes. [B]LOL![/B].
][/QUOTE]Every monger in Pattaya is part of the market. And every guy who overpays impacts that market. The ladies talk.
Why do you think that prices are rising in Pattaya? Except for superstars like you.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2895097]Every monger in Pattaya is part of the market. And every guy who overpays impacts that market. The ladies talk.
Why do you think that prices are rising in Pattaya? Except for superstars like you.[/QUOTE]Girls talkbabout the sub cmmder too. He keeps prices in check. 1,000 for Hot Girls. They go to him.
The Thai Farang trap:
Farang comes to Thailand, ends up in some small bar. He meets an older bargirl, she loves to boom-boom. He decides this is paradise, buys a house on the Darkside and she moves in with him.
After a short while, she announces that she is too old for boom-boom, no have feeling any more. Now he is horny all the time, so he goes to a local bar and hooks up with a younger bargirl. Meanwhile, his Thai "wife" goes shopping and hooks up with her Thai husband, who she supports.
The new bargirl is the new afternoon "wife".
So, now the Farang is supporting 2 Thai ladies, who each support a Thai man.
The Pattaya economy explained.
Most older Thai ladies working bar will fuck like a rabbit until they realize the customer is not husband material. At that point, their sex drive disappears, and you're lucky to get a HJ. They don't care, they want to find a new customer at that point, unless you throw money at them.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2895418]The Thai Farang trap:
Farang comes to Thailand, ends up in some small bar. He meets an older bargirl, she loves to boom-boom. He decides this is paradise, buys a house on the Darkside and she moves in with him.
After a short while, she announces that she is too old for boom-boom, no have feeling any more. Now he is horny all the time, so he goes to a local bar and hooks up with a younger bargirl. Meanwhile, his Thai "wife" goes shopping and hooks up with her Thai husband, who she supports.
The new bargirl is the new afternoon "wife".
So, now the Farang is supporting 2 Thai ladies, who each support a Thai man.
The Pattaya economy explained.
Most older Thai ladies working bar will fuck like a rabbit until they realize the customer is not husband material. At that point, their sex drive disappears, and you're lucky to get a HJ. They don't care, they want to find a new customer at that point, unless you throw money at them.[/QUOTE]Much too common Scenario.
Buzzin after being burned by an old lady Thai just announced he found another old Bat. He bought land and is building a House for her. The guy has IQ equivalent to a rock.
There is a bargirl I have known for many years who would love to hook up with me permanently. She constantly posts photos of me on her Facebook, and is always sending me messages.
Of course, she doesn't tell her Farang customer boyfriend, who supports her. And her Thai husband could care less as long as the money rolls in.
She is a drunk and gambling addict, so I keep her at arm's length. Oh, and her pussy doesn't really work anymore. So, it's just short trips, a few days at a time.
But I am currently on a 2 month trip to Brazil with her twin sister now.