General Info

Since my last visit to a travel girl in January, here are some points I have found:

-More and more travel girls agents (the one with who you talk on whatsapp) are using photos of the ladies but when they were much younger with a far better body, the last girl I visited was one of them, beautiful slim body on photos but once she took off her top she unveiled a fat ugly body. So there was about 4-5 years between when the photos were taken and actual days.

Same went for many other ads, when the manager send you the photos the girl looks like 21 y, but once you ask for selfies she looks 30 y. So always ask for selfies, if the manager doesn't want to send then pass.

-Hotel! I had a talk with one of the travel girls agent and asked him why they are using the actual cheap and dirty hotel, he said that in one of the previous 4 stars hotels, someone tipped off Lebanese police and they arrested 14 girls. He kept accusing the 'reception', dunno if one of the employee of the hotel was the culprit. So for the time being we are stucked with the actual cheap hotels.

-Good looking and GFE travel girls are still possible, but it's like one every 10 girls, so once you find the good one and you verify with selfies, then don't hesitate one minute, me for instance I am still waiting since January, could not find a girl like the 'porno star' from massage republic yet.

[QUOTE=James876;2161498]Thanks VonderJohn for the valuable insight.

About travel girls numbers on the websites, there are a lot of fake pictures and the managers are almost always rude I don't want to get a girl who I haven't seen a picture of. How can I guarantee to get the girl in the pictures? And that has no disease.

Of course if you know some reliable names or anything that could help I would really appreciate it. And based on your experience what hotel is best for such things?

Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Hello,

For the travel girl numbers, only contact Russian numbers. Do not come close to the Lebanese. Out of these Russian numbers, 2-3 provide real photos. As the previous poster said, always ask for selfies. I've never met a fake girl from the Russian travel girl numbers. Use the backpage website or massage republic.

For hotels, it depends: do you want a hotel for you and the girl comes as a guest? Or do you want a hotel room for both you together throughout the day?

I tried sending you a private message but it was not possible.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2157457]Yes, Turbo Massage has bad looking woman. But they give blowjobs for cheap. So if you're looking for a quick and cheap blowjob, its your place.

Mystic. What does it offer? Blowjob or handjob only? Body to body massage? Vera and Rachel. Are they Lebanese or Philippino?

You should visit SpaSoo Hamra. It is great in service and cleanliness. The ladies are okay, much better than Turbo and more professional even in their massage.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Turbo massage, I had a girl which was nice, very attractive and make nice sounds but if was taken you will end up with your grandma.

Mystic I tried it several times, and I met a new girl called Monicka very nice and beautiful, only do her job she doesn't let you put her hands on you, Rachel and Vera are better.

Only Handjob and you can slide your hands everywhere, all are philippino good looking.

SpaSoo hamra, is clean and expensive, girls are very good looking and very expert on how to take your money but I don't recommend anymore as there are many massage places cheaper.

I want to check new massage places and will let you know.

Turbo massage- 3 ein el mraysse. Bad looking women.

Hamzieh. Mystic is amazing, they don't take ask money for extra, she leave it for you, I normally give 33 $ and they are happy and ladies are nice. Ask for Vera or Rachel.

Parisiana they offer. Very bad.

Never tried spa zoo or Spa 300.

Body to body massage, can you explain more do they undress or stay on their outfit.

Parisian all Lebanese old and very ugly and sad girls.

Didn't enjoy at all.

Moon light never tried.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2161630]Hello,

For the travel girl numbers, only contact Russian numbers. Do not come close to the Lebanese. Out of these Russian numbers, 2-3 provide real photos. As the previous poster said, always ask for selfies. I've never met a fake girl from the Russian travel girl numbers. Use the backpage website or massage republic.

For hotels, it depends: do you want a hotel for you and the girl comes as a guest? Or do you want a hotel room for both you together throughout the day?

I tried sending you a private message but it was not possible.[/QUOTE]Thanks VonderJohn for the info.

I will ask for selfies then to make sure, even thought they seem very impatient. The managers I get on the Russian numbers are Lebanese or Russian? On massage republic there aren't that much. But I will try to look for more on backpackage.

For the hotel, I want to book a room and have the girl as a guest for the hour or two. Mainly without worrying about being caught at reception or the police like the previous poster said.

I've tried to pm you but I don't seem to have this option. The button is not there. Are we allowed to move this conversation somewhere else?

Many thanks.

James Kader.

[QUOTE=James876;2162018]Thanks VonderJohn for the info.

I will ask for selfies then to make sure, even thought they seem very impatient. The managers I get on the Russian numbers are Lebanese or Russian? On massage republic there aren't that much. But I will try to look for more on backpackage.

For the hotel, I want to book a room and have the girl as a guest for the hour or two. Mainly without worrying about being caught at reception or the police like the previous poster said.

I've tried to pm you but I don't seem to have this option. The button is not there. Are we allowed to move this conversation somewhere else?

Many thanks.

James Kader.[/QUOTE]Hey James,

For hotels that don't bother if you have a visitor coming, they are a few and usually they're not the best hotels around.

In Hamra there is the 'West House 3', which is on the way up from bliss street, nearby Sport 2000. It is a basic accomodation place where you can take an apartment or a room. It barely has a reception, and the reception is in another section from its main entrance. So nobody cares or looks who is going up or down since the elevator and the reception are in totally different places. I've tried it more than once and had girls coming to my room with no issues. Again, its a basic place. Not fancy.

There is also the Honey House hotel. $30 per night. I haven't tried it personally, but one of the girls I dated told me about it.

Finally there is the Morgan Hotel in Sin El Fil. Actually it is a 'hotel' that is known for couples taking a room and having sex there, then leaving on the same day. Its not clean or fancy, but only a place for a fuck. I once went there with two ladies and they didn't mind. The hotel makes money out of this. No police comes near it or anything and it has its own parking.

The above hotels are guaranteed not to mind if you have a girl coming with you or visiting you, and no police attention whatsoever. For better hotel quality and with the same hospitality (welcoming any girl that comes to you), try any hotel in the Maameltein area, and you'll have all receptions welcoming you and your girls.

I hope the above helps.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2164126]Hey James,

For hotels that don't bother if you have a visitor coming, they are a few and usually they're not the best hotels around.

In Hamra there is the 'West House 3', which is on the way up from bliss street, nearby Sport 2000. It is a basic accomodation place where you can take an apartment or a room. It barely has a reception, and the reception is in another section from its main entrance. So nobody cares or looks who is going up or down since the elevator and the reception are in totally different places. I've tried it more than once and had girls coming to my room with no issues. Again, its a basic place. Not fancy.

There is also the Honey House hotel. $30 per night. I haven't tried it personally, but one of the girls I dated told me about it..[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the valuable info.

Just one last thing if you don't mind, any recommendations of candidates from backpage or massage republic? Maybe just names will do I guess or with last digits and I'll find them. (True picture, clean.).

Thanks a lot for the help.

Guys,

Any one have infos about backpage / cracker? Are they down? And is there any alternatives?

Bad news people!

Cracer website is down, so it will be even more difficult to find new travel girls.

[QUOTE=James876;2164182]Thanks a lot for the valuable info.

Just one last thing if you don't mind, any recommendations of candidates from backpage or massage republic? Maybe just names will do I guess or with last digits and I'll find them. (True picture, clean.).

Thanks a lot for the help.[/QUOTE]I won't help you if I give you names of girls, because they spend only a few days in Lebanon then travel, then come back. So its best to give you recommended travel girl numbers (last 3 digits):

634.

262.

008.

They mostly charge $200 per hour and $150 for half hour. But my advice is that you bargain for $100 for half an hour (most men only cum one time during 1 hour). I was able to take this price many times.

OK so I went back to LE Beyrouth, they remembered and at first they said not their problem, between me and girl, but then finally said I could come down to Voodoo hotel during the day and choose a different girl. Still a mystery why Tamara never wanted to go on a date.

I went to Varieties again because of hearing there is better service and to have a backup option / try again, paid for a champagne with Maria, tall skinny brunette from Ukraine, seemed to go well, but lights go on for end of the night, so when I ask for her Whatsapp she said I have to speak to Simon the manager, I ask him and he tells her to give me Whatsapp as I paid for a champagne. She does, never responds to my messages where I'm saying I'm coming to take her out on a date, then finally I ask her again and the price, and she says she's busy, and then again busy all week. So now I am at a loss, I must be doing something wrong. I'm an early thirties fit guy from the USA and am active dating Lebanese girls in college here, so I don't think it is something personal unless they think I'm too young or not know what I'm doing?

Either way this whole thing is a huge waste of time and money and while I can go get a different girl the next day, this defeats the purpose of picking one at the club and building rapport, instead of just taking the "leftovers" that are at the hotel during the day. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2160932]The $90 can still be saved, even if you were unable to date the girl.

By "opening a champagne" (deciding to date a girl) and paying $90, the SNC's responsibility and duty is to provide you with a girl to date. If your girl declines, you have the right to go to the SNC's designated hotel during the day and tell them that you paid for a date but your girl doesn't want to go out. In this case, they will present you with alternative girls who, on that day, do not have a date. Usually these girls are in the cafe / lobby of the SNC's designated hotel. To do that, they need to have your name. Typically, they ask for your name during the night on which you paid the $90. They write down your name on their list of guests dating the girls and they verify it with you once you show up in the next day or few days.

Since they haven't taken your name, what you can do is go to their designated hotel / meeting place where you are supposed to pick up the lady, tell them which date you opened the champagne, which girl you were supposed to date and they will probably remember, and give you alternative girls to choose from..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterRause;2166774]OK so I went back to LE Beyrouth, they remembered and at first they said not their problem, between me and girl, but then finally said I could come down to Voodoo hotel during the day and choose a different girl. Still a mystery why Tamara never wanted to go on a date.

I went to Varieties again because of hearing there is better service and to have a backup option / try again, paid for a champagne with Maria, tall skinny brunette from Ukraine, seemed to go well, but lights go on for end of the night, so when I ask for her Whatsapp she said I have to speak to Simon the manager, I ask him and he tells her to give me Whatsapp as I paid for a champagne. She does, never responds to my messages where I'm saying I'm coming to take her out on a date, then finally I ask her again and the price, and she says she's busy, and then again busy all week. So now I am at a loss, I must be doing something wrong. I'm an early thirties fit guy from the USA and am active dating Lebanese girls in college here, so I don't think it is something personal unless they think I'm too young or not know what I'm doing?

Either way this whole thing is a huge waste of time and money and while I can go get a different girl the next day, this defeats the purpose of picking one at the club and building rapport, instead of just taking the "leftovers" that are at the hotel during the day. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Main reasons why girls would change their mind about going out on a date with someone:

1) They find another customer who is willing to pay more (that's why she told you she's busy).

2) They already have enough money and don't feel the need to make more.

3) PMS.

Apparently, you were faced with reason 1.

Still, this doesn't deny you the right to go out with a lady since you've paid for a champagne. This is why its always a good idea to contact the SNC and request another lady. Bu one thing an SNC can never ever do: force a lady to go out with a customer. So when they told you that its not their problem if your lady isn't answering, they are right. They never interfere.

You are right, this can be a waste of time and money when you spend time building rapport and creating chemistry with a girl only to go out with another girl the next day. This is why many of us are either banging 'travel girls' or dating the left overs in the hotel the next day. Both of these options take less time and cost less money. The only time when time and money are worth investing in an SNC is when that SNC has a wide variety of top level ladies who are a good company and respect their date appointments. And this is something very rare to find. Perhaps 10% of all SNCs would fit in this category.

If you're looking for a quick good f*ck, go for travel girls. They're easily and quickly available, fairly affordable and their only drawback is that you spend much less time with them (one hour max), but who needs to spend more time if all what you're looking for is a quick shag with a good looking lady. Time, money and effort are saved.

[QUOTE=PeterRause;2166774]OK so I went back to LE Beyrouth, they remembered and at first they said not their problem, between me and girl, but then finally said I could come down to Voodoo hotel during the day and choose a different girl. Still a mystery why Tamara never wanted to go on a date.

I went to Varieties again because of hearing there is better service and to have a backup option / try again, paid for a champagne with Maria, tall skinny brunette from Ukraine, seemed to go well, but lights go on for end of the night, so when I ask for her Whatsapp she said I have to speak to Simon the manager, I ask him and he tells her to give me Whatsapp as I paid for a champagne. She does, never responds to my messages where I'm saying I'm coming to take her out on a date, then finally I ask her again and the price, and she says she's busy, and then again busy all week. So now I am at a loss, I must be doing something wrong. I'm an early thirties fit guy from the USA and [/QUOTE][QUOTE=PeterRause;2166774]OK so I went back to LE Beyrouth, they remembered and at first they said not their problem, between me and girl, but then finally said I could come down to Voodoo hotel during the day and choose a different girl. Still a mystery why Tamara never wanted to go on a date.

I went to Varieties again because of hearing there is better service and to have a backup option / try again, paid for a champagne with Maria, tall skinny brunette from Ukraine, seemed to go well, but lights go on for end of the night, so when I ask for her Whatsapp she said I have to speak to Simon the manager, I ask him and he tells her to give me Whatsapp as I paid for a champagne. She does, never responds to my messages where I'm saying I'm coming to take her out on a date, then finally I ask her again and the price, and she says she's busy, and then again busy all week. So now I am at a loss, I must be doing something wrong. I'm an early thirties fit guy from the USA and am active dating Lebanese girls in college here, so I don't think it is something personal unless they think I'm too young or not know what I'm doing?

Either way this whole thing is a huge waste of time and money and while I can go get a different girl the next day, this defeats the purpose of picking one at the club and building rapport, instead of just taking the "leftovers" that are at the hotel during the day. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Main reasons why girls would change their mind about going out on a date with someone:

1) They find another customer who is willing to pay more (that's why she told you she's busy).

2) They already have enough money and don't feel the need to make more.

3) PMS.

Apparently, you were faced with reason 1.

Still, this doesn't deny you the right to go out with a lady since you've paid for a champagne. This is why its always a good idea to contact the SNC and request another lady. Bu one thing an SNC can never ever do: force a lady to go out with a customer. So when they told you that its not their problem if your lady isn't answering, they are right. They never interfere.

You are right, this can be a waste of time and money when you spend time building rapport and creating chemistry with a girl only to go out with another girl the next day. This is why many of us are either banging 'travel girls' or dating the left overs in the hotel the next day. Both of these options take less time and cost less money. The only time when time and money are worth investing in an SNC is when that SNC has a wide variety of top level ladies who are a good company and respect their date appointments. And this is something very rare to find. Perhaps 10% of all SNCs would fit in this category.

If you're looking for a quick good f*ck, go for travel girls. They're easily and quickly available, fairly affordable and their only drawback is that you spend much less time with them (one hour max), but who needs to spend more time if all what you're looking for is a quick shag with a good looking lady. Time, money and effort are saved.

PeterRause,

There is nothing to do with your age. It is all about how much cash are you proposing for the day out.

Try starting at a hundred but most are not accepting less than twice that much.

Once you agree on thew amount she will go out like a champ.

Keep us posted.

Guys,

You are going about this the wrong way!

The "maitre" or waiter is your best friend! Talk to him about the girl that you fancy before you ask for her to come to your table; ask him if she goes out with customers! He know which girls go out and which girls don't! Next, when the girl sits with you and before you go on opening champagne ask her, let your intentions be known (some girls will go with you for lunch or shopping but not sex).

A lot of girls (especially LE beirut!) still come to Lebanon thinking this is a dancing job (obviously have been lied to) and no dating, to be shocked at what they are supposed to do and never go out with customers and eventually cut their contracts short. Other girls have boyfriends and they use you to open a champagne and uses the day to go with her boyfriend.

My best advice to you is find out if the girl is A-OK before you commit to anything!

[QUOTE=PeterRause;2166774]OK so I went back to LE Beyrouth, they remembered and at first they said not their problem, between me and girl, but then finally said I could come down to Voodoo hotel during the day and choose a different girl. Still a mystery why Tamara never wanted to go on a date.

I went to Varieties again because of hearing there is better service and to have a backup option / try again, paid for a champagne with Maria, tall skinny brunette from Ukraine, seemed to go well, but lights go on for end of the night, so when I ask for her Whatsapp she said I have to speak to Simon the manager, I ask him and he tells her to give me Whatsapp as I paid for a champagne. She does, never responds to my messages where I'm saying I'm coming to take her out on a date, then finally I ask her again and the price, and she says she's busy, and then again busy all week. So now I am at a loss, I must be doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]