American Politics

[QUOTE=Spidy;2852942][i]Did the orange devil spawn, really get "street creed" with his new found mug shot? [/i]

According to Mitt and other Repub congressmen and women who would have voted to impeach the tyrannical insurrectionist 4x indicted ex-president, [b] feared for their very lives, from the QAnon/MAGA right-wing lunatic fringe.[/b]

The orange devil, as most of us already knew, was [i]thuggin', mobbin'[/i] and [i]threatin'[/i] and was acting like a mob boss from the jump. These Repub congresspersons and "Never Trumpers" say, if it were not for the death threats on their own lives, their children and their families lives, they'd have impeached the devil.

So getting [b]"primaried" by the vindictive little orange devil[/b], I imagine, was the least of Mitt's problems, as the dude was doling and shelling out a whooping [b]$5K a day[/b], to protect himself and his family, with private security, since the J6 riot.

[b]99 Problems[/b], but [b]Mitt getting "primaried"[/b] ain't one...as Sen. Romney, reveals all, as he announces and prepares for retirement.

Repubs...thuggin' R us?[/QUOTE]That's sad, that he had to spend 5,000 a day on security for his family.

It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's situation. Epps was a strong supporter of Trump, and a regional leader of the Oath Keepers. Because of a false conspiracy theory spread by Revolver and Tucker Carlson, that he was some kind of federal agent, he had to sell his business and house in Arizona and go into semi hiding somewhere in the Rockies. Epps says the government is going to soon charge him for encouraging people to peacefully trespass on Capitol grounds on January 6. That may actually help him. Maybe it will cause his potential persecutors to realize he wasnt a government agent.

Epps actually may be the reason Fox fired Carlson. It didnt help them though. Epps has since sued Fox for fucking up his life.

Im not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. A very small minority of his more ardent supporters would take things too far.

"When do I point out so many spelling errors?

Uh. The two worst presidents of all time, both Repubs, both incalculable scourges on America and Americans, just within the past 23 years were installed in the White House despite losing the vote by Millions solely because there is such a thing as the Electoral College system. Well, that and that the majority in the Supreme Court was Repub too one of those times.

Clearly, it is a rigged system that favors Repubs. Rigged FOR them today, not by them in the beginning. Although in the beginning it was rigged to favor land masses and land owners over human beings.

So, in that sense, it was preordained to be rigged for Repub Red States that even today have more tumble weeds, rattle snakes and outhouses than human beings, tax payers and skyscrapers. Compared to a huge, popular and economically critical state like California, both Dakotas, Wyoming, Kansas, etc etc combined should have nothing rigged in their favor to in any way inch them toward as much national election influence as California.

However, that is what the EC system does for their benefit in terms of presidential election outcomes. Certainly not for their benefit or the benefit of the country at large in terms of the economy, national security, health, wellbeing, democracy or American values."

The 'rig' that means "to manipulate or control usually by deceptive or dishonest means" first appeared in an 18th century slang dictionary with the definition "game, diversion, ridicule. See 'fun'."

"That's sad, that he had to spend 5,000 a day on security for his family.

It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's situation. Epps was a strong supporter of Trump, and a regional leader of the Oath Keepers. Because of a false conspiracy theory spread by Revolver and Tucker Carlson, that he was some kind of federal agent, he had to sell his business and house in Arizona and go into semi hiding somewhere in the Rockies. Epps says the government is going to soon charge him for encouraging people to peacefully trespass on Capitol grounds on January 6. That may actually help him. Maybe it will cause his potential persecutors to realize he wasn't a government agent.

Epps actually may be the reason Fox fired Carlson. It didn't help them though. Epps has since sued Fox for fucking up his life.

I'm not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. A very small minority of his more ardent supporters would take things too far."

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/jan-6-rioter-convicted-sentenced-secret-103233093[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2852922]
Clearly, it is a rigged system that favors Repubs. Rigged FOR them today, not by them in the beginning. Although in the beginning it was rigged to favor land masses and land owners over human beings.

So, in that sense, it was preordained to be rigged FOR Repub Red States that even today have more tumble weeds, rattle snakes and outhouses than human beings, tax payers and skyscrapers. Compared to a huge, popular and economically critical state like California, both Dakotas, Wyoming, Kansas, etc etc combined should have nothing rigged in their favor to in any way inch them toward as much national election influence as California.

However, that is what the EC system does for their benefit in terms of presidential election outcomes. Certainly not for their benefit or the benefit of the country at large in terms of the economy, national security, health, wellbeing, democracy or American values.[/QUOTE]Baloney. You just posted a link purporting to show that neither party has an unfair edge in the electoral college. The Dakotas, Wyoming, Kansas, etc. are assigned electoral votes in proportion to their populations, just like California. Trump's margin in Wyoming and North Dakota was higher than Biden's in California, and Trump's margin in South Dakota was only slightly smaller.

Trump's EC win in 2016 was a fluke. After Rutherford B. Hayes, who was selected president in a grand bargain so that Union troops would leave the south, there's been no election where a candidate lost the popular vote by more than 1% and won the electoral vote, up until 2016. And if I understand your link, this is no longer likely to happen.

This is the United STATES of America. That's probably the reason the founders came up with the electoral college. And it's a good thing that we are the United STATES. If Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Elizabeth Warren et al fully imposed their agendas on states like Wyoming and North Dakota, there just might be open rebellion.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2852889]I would no more contribute money to typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media than to outright direct Repub Media like Fux News, Newsmax and Breitbart. LOL.

Maybe we can get Marquis to copy and paste this NYT article that somehow got past its pro-Repub panel of editors. Or, like most MSM, they are simply imparting warnings and pointers to help their Repub darlings improve their game. I suppose you can copy and paste it too.

[B]Trump's Electoral College Edge Seems To Be Fading[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/upshot/electoral-college-trump-2024.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I guess Crooks and Liars must unqualifiedly and consistently support the Progressive line while the New York Times doesn't always do that. Well good for the NYT. While their news articles are somewhat biased towards your side, at least more so than the WSJ, at least they occasionally try to be objective.

"That's sad, that he had to spend 5,000 a day on security for his family.

It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's situation. Epps was a strong supporter of Trump, and a regional leader of the Oath Keepers. Because of a false conspiracy theory spread by Revolver and Tucker Carlson, that he was some kind of federal agent, he had to sell his business and house in Arizona and go into semi hiding somewhere in the Rockies. Epps says the government is going to soon charge him for encouraging people to peacefully trespass on Capitol grounds on January 6. That may actually help him. Maybe it will cause his potential persecutors to realize he wasn't a government agent.

Epps actually may be the reason Fox fired Carlson. It didn't help them though. Epps has since sued Fox for fucking up his life.

I'm not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. A very small minority of his more ardent supporters would take things too far. ".

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/jan-6-rioter-convicted-sentenced-secret-103233093[/URL]".

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/check-out-the-12-million-beach-mansion-mitt-romney-is-tearing-down-2011-8[/URL]

$5000 shouldn't be nearly enough!!

I guess Crooks and Liars must unqualifiedly and consistently support the Progressive line while the New York Times doesn't always do that. Well good for the NYT. While their news articles are somewhat biased towards your side, at least more so than the WSJ, at least they occasionally try to be objective. ".

For their mega agenda.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/09/15/ramaswamy-predicts-biden-will-be-a-sacrificial-lamb-says-deep-state-working-to-get-him-out-of-the-way/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2852967]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/jan-6-rioter-convicted-sentenced-secret-103233093[/URL][/QUOTE]What do you think is up with that Marquis?

On a separate note, I guess we're going to have to start digging up links from Crooks and Liars to support our posts. Tooms doesn't trust the New York Times, it's too right wing.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2852886]Reagan's whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates began a year after he was elected, which itself happened a year after Carter's Fed Chairman Volcker began to enact the Fed Funds rate increases that also began to steadily reduce the rate of inflation about 3 months later. And Volcker reduced the Fed Funds rates right slong with the steady, almost monthly decline in inflation.

They did not occur in the midst of steady Fed Funds rate increases or a steady increase in the rate of inflation.

Reagan had already inherited a declining Unemployment Rate by January 1981, down from a one month spike to 7. 8% to around 7. 2% that continued well into late 1981, all while the rate of inflation and the Fed Funds rate trajectories were trending downward, not upward.

LOL. I see Trump is on NBC bragging about when he begged his Fed Chairman appointee to lower interest rates even before he crashed worldwide economies in 2020 with Trump's Pandemic because, "we had the Greatest Economy ever"!

Which, of course, is exactly what "the Greatest Economy ever" desperately needs. Lolol.

And you think numbskulls like the lord and savior perfect Repub Leader like him could even come within 1000 miles of an effective economic stimulus legislation much less propose, sign and pass one?

Oh, BTW, his begging for lower interest rates had everything to do with his colossal outstanding debt on his colossally failing golf resorts and nothing to do with "the USA economy. " So we add blatantly obvious con man to his numbskull characteristic. Yes, the perfect Repub Party lord and savior.[/QUOTE]Well, assigning blame to Reagan for the recession and unemployment in the first half of the 1980's while absolving the Fed doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Pelosi and Trump threw everything but the kitchen sink at the 2020 recession. The only voices of sanity, which came at the end of 2020, were from Senate Republicans. I don't really understand why you're complaining about the stimulus and Trump's push for lower interest rates. That's what Progressives favor, right? Modern Monetary Theory? Loose monetary policy? Don't worry about the national debt or low interest rates because you can just jack up taxes to control inflation? Well that doesn't really work, especially when you don't have the stomach to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year. You just end up like Greece or Argentina.

What do you think is up with that Marquis?

On a separate not, I guess we're going to have to start digging up links from Crooks and Liars to support our posts.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/nyregion/migrant-protests-nyc.html[/URL]

I'm not sure, you're an intelligent and sane young man, what's your thinking?

Just a guess, maybe a high ranking member of the military? FBI? CIA?

Most likely a high ranking member of the Capitol Police that was letting all the protesters in and guiding them around??

He does what the lame left always tries, they are constantly trying to manipulate the overton window and pull it left.

Just ignore it, carry on and read just the Daily Stormer, daily!!

"I guess Crooks and Liars must unqualifiedly and consistently support the Progressive line while the New York Times doesn't always do that. Well good for the NYT. While their news articles are somewhat biased towards your side, at least more so than the WSJ, at least they occasionally try to be objective. ".

The nyt and objectivity in the same sentence are mutually exclusive.

[URL]https://mises.org/wire/censorship-industrial-complex-exposes-kleptocracys-true-intentions[/URL]

[URL]https://dailystormer.in/the-guardian-says-democracy-fails-if-people-have-free-access-to-information/[/URL]

"I guess Crooks and Liars must unqualifiedly and consistently support the Progressive line while the New York Times doesn't always do that. Well good for the NYT. While their news articles are somewhat biased towards your side, at least more so than the WSJ, at least they occasionally try to be objective. ".

[URL]https://dailystormer.in/denver-homeless-startup-renting-tents-for-prostitution-selling-alcohol/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2852955]That's sad, that he had to spend 5,000 a day on security for his family.

It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's ... [/QUOTE]
Saw that 60 Minutes episode and I only felt sorry for this wife. Definitely not what the old gal signed up for. But as marriage vows go and everything, [i]"...to love and to cherish...till death us do part"[/i] ...etc. Poor Gal!

If there ever was a case where a more apropos saying of, [b] "He that lies/sleeps with dogs, riseth with fleas"[/b], I'd have to say, Ray Epp's case is a classic example. Good luck to him and his FOXY News lawsuit.

We shall see if the same fate (or should I say "fleas") awaits, the infamous [i]"dirty dozen-and-a-half other domesticated poodle dogs"[/i], awaiting trial in Fulton County, GA.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2852955]Im not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. [b]A very small minority[/b] of his more ardent supporters would take things too far. [/QUOTE]Oh really! ...To quote another apropos saying, "The fish rots from the head".

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2853029]Baloney. You just posted a link purporting to show that neither party has an unfair edge in the electoral college. The Dakotas, Wyoming, Kansas, etc. are assigned electoral votes in proportion to their populations, just like California. Trump's margin in Wyoming and North Dakota was higher than Biden's in California, and Trump's margin in South Dakota was only slightly smaller.

Trump's EC win in 2016 was a fluke. After Rutherford B. Hayes, who was selected president in a grand bargain so that Union troops would leave the south, there's been no election where a candidate lost the popular vote by more than 1% and won the electoral vote, up until 2016. And if I understand your link, this is no longer likely to happen.

This is the United STATES of America. That's probably the reason the founders came up with the electoral college. And it's a good thing that we are the United STATES. If Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Elizabeth Warren et al fully imposed their agendas on states like Wyoming and North Dakota, there just might be open rebellion.[/QUOTE]Double baloney.

If the EC system was fairly tagged to population the EC system would be utterly pointless to the side that benefits from it being rigged, they would be fine with going with whoever got the most votes and the two worst presidents of all time, both Repubs, would not have been awarded the presidency despite getting Millions fewer votes than the Dem.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2852927][b]Excellent video.[/b]

In a 4 minute video, she does a brilliant job of underscoring the damaging effects of typical pro-Repub Bothsiderism in Mainstream Media:

[b]Dear Media, Do Your Job!
Remember when the media used to actually report the news?[/b]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2023/09/dear-media-do-your-job[/URL][/QUOTE]Politics Girl, just nails it! Precise, succinct, truthful and pulls no punches getting to the point. One of the best videos I've seen, on false equivalencies and bothsiderism in the fourth estate.