Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1130639]Using both WFG-forum and this site:

[url]http://www.bangkokbargirls.info/faqs.asp#question5[/url]

I'm ready for it. [/quote]If I were you, I would delete these, I am not sure the admin (who pays for the Servers of ISG) will approve of advertizing other forums.

[QUOTE=John Traveller;1130639]She is from the North-east (close to Chiang May) and 23 years old. Face 8 and body 9? Unfortunately I don't remember her name. I buy her LD, we cuddle for I while, she give these very good dfk, it makes so happy I laugh. Never experienced that before, very nice! I ask about price: she says 2000 for LT.[/QUOTE]For a 23 years old with a Face=9 & Body=9, 2000LT is a great Price. Well done.

They usually ask for that price for ST.

[QUOTE=Macho Dik;1130573]1) How much is the present Bar fine charges at NANA ENTERTAIMENT PLAZA, How much is the ST and LT.[/quote]Generally around 600 for barfine. ST 1500. LT more variable, but I'd say 2500-3000.

[quote]2) In my pass visit, It seems that NEP girls hasitating to go for LT, they prefer ST, probably I am not handsome or young enough for them or perhaps there is something I don't. Know how to persuade them. I think $$$ is the best persuation stuff for them?[/quote]If they don't want LT, don't take them LT. You won't get very good service if they don't really want to be there.

[quote]3) I will be staying at Majestic grande for 3 nights, I wonder aside from NEP where else can I go? I wish to go to PATTAYA but my scheduels can not permit me to do so. Since I will be there for Business and 2nd by pleassure. By the way, In Majestic grande, they don't. Charge me extra for the girls I bought in last time. Are they still do probono in this time?[/quote]No girl fee at majestic. Besides NEP try Soi Cowboy and some massage parlours on Ratchada.

[QUOTE=Evianist; 1130696]Generally around 600 for barfine. ST 1500. LT more variable, but I'd say 2500-3000.

If they don't want LT, don't take them LT. You won't get very good service if they don't really want to be there.

No girl fee at majestic. Besides NEP try Soi Cowboy and some massage parlours on Ratchada. [/QUOTE]Hello, there. Dumb question, but the 600 is for the barfine which goes to the bar itself, and the ST and LT fee goes to the girl? So the total damage is 2100 for ST and between 3100-3600 for LT?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1130219]She did not feel sorry for herself and just was doing what she had to do. She said she was only doing this 2 nights per month and 1 ST per night. And, she refused me. So I am not sure what her deal was but good luck to her.[/QUOTE]She knew she'd fall in love with you.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1130729]She knew she'd fall in love with you.[/QUOTE]Nah, she was a little bitchy now that I think of it.

And talking about love, I have the 3 freebies lined up for this week. Should be interesting. I'll take pics and send them to you

John Euro,

[QUOTE=John Euro; 1130545]When MP girls sitting outside and welcome or pull you in you, maily in Pattaya & Phuket, be shure extras are on the menu.

Easy to know or feel it most of the time, if the hands are coming to close with more than accidently touching your balls or Willy, the girl will look in your eyes to see what the reaction is, just keep eye contact, smile and make a little remark.

In street MP's where the 1 hour price is like 200 or 300bt be sure you can have a HJ extra mainly from the older providers but not always from the very young girls. Removing your towel for what ever the reason you come up with helps also to give them girl message. [/QUOTE]Thanks very much, that's great!

S

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1130739]Nah, she was a little bitchy now that I think of it.

And talking about love, I have the 3 freebies lined up for this week. Should be interesting. I'll take pics and send them to you[/QUOTE]You really don't want to make my exile period easy, eh? .

Managed to get in a little bit of everything while in BKK.

#1 Bo from Mango via outcall. Got along well, great skills, first oily in a hotel room for me. 3500+500 tip.

#2 Visit to Livingstones. Nice enough place, but dead that night, and I ended up just chatting with a girl that did not really push the right buttons. Plus 700BF at 1am seemed too steep for a girl I wasn't into, so went home alone.

#3 Eden Club. Almost walked out as the selection of 4 was nothing to write home about. French owner was friendly though and persuaded me to stick around for 30minutes. 10 gals did come down finally, and I found 2 that were attractive enough (did not like the "let her pick her friend" choice and opted for an alternative, which they seemed fine with). PSE, but a bit too scripted in some ways. After about 60min they asked if I was ready for a shower. Could have gone a 3rd round, but wasn't going to push it on them. Problem with 2 girls is they chat in Thai whenever not involved in sex, and it gets boring. 3600+200 tip.

#4 Great 2hr Thai massage in afternoon. Woman (33) spoke some English and we got along well. I invited her out when she got off at midnight. Bite to eat and some live music, then took her back to my room and crashed. AM sex, breakfast and goodbye. 2000B. Probably the best experience overall. She is a professional masseuse, but had enough skills in bed that got me thinking she may be a part-time hooker too, though at no point did she suggest hooking up during the massage.

#5 Walking around Patpong. Tons of girls, some of whom were tempting. Curious as to why no one talks about them here on the forum.

#6 Walked around Soi 33. Looked pretty upscale and pricey. Checked out Londoner's Bar with their all night 2-for-1 and live music. No obvious pros, but a fun place to take a girl, no doubt.

#7 Walked near Nana plaza, but never made it inside. That and Soi Cowboy will have to wait.

[QUOTE=Asian Travels;1130837]Problem with 2 girls is they chat in Thai whenever not involved in sex, and it gets boring.[/QUOTE]It's not boring when you can understand Thai. Because you are most probably the subject of their discussion. It goes from "I don't want to suck him" to "he's dirty","I want that he finish quick, I don't like him". Or stuff like that.

[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1130837]Managed to get in a little bit of everything while in BKK.

#5 Walking around Patpong. Tons of girls, some of whom were tempting. Curious as to why no one talks about them here on the forum. [/QUOTE]Good point.

There don't seem to be many reports on Patpong, all concentrated on NEP and Soi Cowboy + assorted MP's.

Strange.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1130848]It's not boring when you can understand Thai. Because you are most probably the subject of their discussion. It goes from "I don't want to suck him" to "he's dirty","I want that he finish quick, I don't like him". Or stuff like that.[/QUOTE]Granted I don't understand Thai, but even if I did I am pretty sure the chat about which whitening cream they preferred would not get me hard.

The only gogo giirls I take are ones that are recommended by friends who for whatever reason still seem to like gogo bars even though they have been in Thailand for years. It is a foolproof method and cost effective and very rarely disappointing. My friends are old pro's and have the girls all negotiated down to 2, 000THB for long time so I simply piggy back off that pricing too (to be honest I don't know exactly how they get the girls down to that price but all these guys have extremely high standards and don't go for less than the superstars).

I don't frequent the bars much these days as personally I think referals from friends and internet dating is by far the way to go (not withstanding the fact that the internet is purely a numbers game and can be a pain sometimes due to unreliability inherent in Thai's).

Mate you are living in a dream world with a quote like this "They don't just fuck anybody. They have self respect. They want to find the guy they they really fancy, enjoy the sex immensely, and yet make some money as well. She gets her orgasms and cash too. It makes sense. Why take any guy when she get close to her spec?".

Although to be fair I am so far removed from the bar scene in Thailand that you may well be right. I wouldn't really know anymore.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1130195]Sure, MPs can be good for a short session. Some of us want to take a girl early in the evening, have sex, then late dinner, more sex late, a nude girl in the bed all night, wake up with a stiffy and immediately put it to good use in the morning.

Some gogo girls can be very good for this, and the barfine is typically less than the MP takeout fee. Its true you can make private arrangements, but then have to wait till girl finishes work and it gets unreliable. The best gogo girls are still very worthwhile. I have a very special hot girl or two from Cowboy that I take regularly, and have a fantastic time.

I pay a little extra to cover the girls wear and tear from multiple extended sex sessions, enough to be fair. Its only a very small ppercentage of gogo girls that are really good, and often are relatively newcomers who have not got too jaded.

Hot girls have a right to be picky! Many Thai girls are only part time or borderline prostitutes, especially in pick-up joints. They don't just fuck anybody. They have self respect. They want to find guy they they really fancy, enjoy the sex immensely, and yet make some money as well. She gets her orgasms and cash too. It makes sense. Why take any guy when she get close to her spec?

If the guy is really nice, has the right attitude, etc, he may score one of these girls. Then again he may not. I recall the odd rejection at the Thermae, for no apparent reason. Like Nic says, some girls are looking for something else, e. G. Japanese, or young dudes. [/QUOTE]

I hate to do this but this statement is so incredibly wrong and so utterly unfair to millions and millions of Thai people."They don't just fuck anybody. They have self respect". No, you are absolutely wrong. Take a walk along Silom Road at lunch time or Wireless Road or Sathorn Road and see the 1, 000's of female office workers. Take a look at the girls working behind the counters of 7/11's and thousands of others in menial jobs who would NEVER DREAM of going to a nightclub and having sex with a stranger for money. Those girls are happy to live within their means. The girls you are referring to have no self respect and are selling their bodies to pay for the blackberry or the Ipad or the nose job or the skin whitening treatment or the drugs for the Thai boyfriend or the motorcycle for the disrespectful and cheap family. Thailand is FULL of women and people who are disgusted by girls selling their bodies to acheive some material object. This is the real Thailand and these are the Thai people you need to know and be associated with. People who come to Thailand and think the way you do are the kind of people who make genuine Thais resentful of foreigners. Your statement is very very wrong on many levels and it is wrong to leave it unchallenged.

If a girl wants to sell her body for a BB or a nose job then to be perfectly clear I am paying her to please me and to leave when I want her to leave. I save my respect for the genuine Thai girls who I am more than happy to devote my time to pleasing. Of course this reflects in my attitude and body language I am sure which is why I can't be bothered with the bar scene anymore. I know what I want and where to get it and how to get it in the most straightforward way here in Bangkok. To be fair though I think you need to live and work here to appreciate the difference and also to be faor some guys who have been here for a long time still don't get it. Just my opinion but a working girl is a working girl and a "real' girl is real girl. Two completely different creatures.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1131004]I hate to do this but this statement is so incredibly wrong and so utterly unfair to millions and millions of Thai people."They don't just fuck anybody. They have self respect". No, you are absolutely wrong. Take a walk along Silom Road at lunch time or Wireless Road or Sathorn Road and see the 1, 000's of female office workers. Take a look at the girls working behind the counters of 7/11's and thousands of others in menial jobs who would NEVER DREAM of going to a nightclub and having sex with a stranger for money....Just my opinion but a working girl is a working girl and a "real' girl is real girl. Two completely different creatures.[/QUOTE]

Not sure I agree with you. You have more of a western conception of prostitution, which I don't think Thai people share. I've met many bargirls who fit Szyzgies description. They're doing it for the money, yes, but if they can get the money and also have a genuinely nice time and some sex they legitimately enjoy, then it's a double win for them. Many of them will happily go for a lower price with a guy they like over a much higher price with a creepy pushy guy.

And I really haven't found many people who are outright disgusted by the bargirl scene. What I've found more is curiosity. I've even taken "real" thai girls to gogo bars before because they were so interested to know what it's like inside, and could never go alone. Many of them don't like trashy low class bargirls, but in regards to the actual act of selling sex, they're not horrified by it like western women are.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1131004]This is the real Thailand and these are the Thai people you need to know and be associated with. People who come to Thailand and think the way you do are the kind of people who make genuine Thais resentful of foreigners. Your statement is very very wrong on many levels and it is wrong to leave it unchallenged.

I save my respect for the genuine Thai girls.

Just my opinion but a working girl is a working girl and a "real' girl is real girl. Two completely different creatures. [/QUOTE]Well, up to a point.

Most of the girls I know are working hard to support their families or saving for the future. OK, I don't doubt some are cashing in on their good looks and willingness to oblige, then spending the money on a fake iPhone. But there is a continuous spectrum between hard-core hookers, free-lancers, part-time bar-girls, massage girls, hairdressers happy to earn some extra cash, college students, women looking for a husband, party girls, etc, right through to execs in big corporates. Not sure you can say: she's a "working girl" and she's a "real girl"?

Without knowing their story and circumstances I am happy to show them all some respect.