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[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe;1975276]I visited Ace-Richmoore two weeks ago and nothing has changed. I'm surprised to hear the building may be upgraded to new residential apartments because the surrounding area is a bit slummy.

Some of you may have read about the neighboring Wisma Indah building on Jalan Tun Razak where during the day around 10-15 Chinese ladies hang out on the building's sidewalk in front of the stairwells. My opinion is don't bother checking it out. The women are no better looking than those at Ace and they charge 100 ringgit and you have to pay for the hotel room. I've never tried because Ace to me is much better value.[/QUOTE]Just wondering could you pick up an ACE girl and bring her back to your hotel room or is it purely an "on premises" type operation? Anyone had experience with this?

[QUOTE=NewImage;1975289]Just wondering could you pick up an ACE girl and bring her back to your hotel room or is it purely an "on premises" type operation? Anyone had experience with this?[/QUOTE]6 months ago I had several sessions over a two week period with an ACE Vietnamese whose English skills were exceptional. She used to work as a massage therapist (with benefits) in Dubai, then heard about ACE through a friend and has worked there for 3 years. I asked about the set up and she said she does not have a "manager", but rather is an independent contractor. If memory serves me correctly, she pays 2,700 ringgit monthly for her cubbyhole of a room and the right to ply her services on the premises and another 1,500 ringgit for "protection money" that the operators pay to various law enforcement entities.

There may be a different arrangement for the Chinese women where they may have "overseers" and work under more restrictive rules.

My Viet provider is a marginal-looking gal but was superbly skilled. She offered an hour-long 100 ringgit package of a 45 minute body massage followed by approximately 15 minutes of full service. She was averaging 4 to 8 customers a day, giving her a daily income of 400-800 ringgit. Her life revolved around work and sleep. She rarely ventured outside the building except to buy necessities. Work work work for 6 months, then she would head back to Vietnam to visit her family and then return to KL.

I would guess there are no rules stopping the Vietnamese from leaving with a customer, but I highly doubt they would do so on the first encounter. Takeout is certainly possible if you were a regular who she likes and trusts. Of course they make their money on high volume of customers so they probably wouldn't venture outside unless you made it financially worthwhile. Some might actually relish the chance to leave behind the tedium of ACE for a few hours with you.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe;1975311]6 months ago I had several sessions over a two week period with an ACE Vietnamese whose English skills were exceptional. She used to work as a massage therapist (with benefits) in Dubai, then heard about ACE through a friend and has worked there for 3 years. I asked about the set up and she said she does not have a "manager", but rather is an independent contractor. If memory serves me correctly, she pays 2,700 ringgit monthly for her cubbyhole of a room and the right to ply her services on the premises and another 1,500 ringgit for "protection money" that the operators pay to various law enforcement entities.
I would guess there are no rules stopping the Vietnamese from leaving with a customer, but I highly doubt they would do so on the first encounter. Takeout is certainly possible if you were a regular who she likes and trusts. Of course they make their money on high volume of customers so they probably wouldn't venture outside unless you made it financially worthwhile. Some might actually relish the chance to leave behind the tedium of ACE for a few hours with you.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Didn't realize it was such a "sausage factory" to coin a phrase. Feel a bit sorry for these girls. Just a question- why is it that they choose to work here and get 50/70 MYR multiplied by 6/7 customers when they can go to BC or TC and get 350/400 (maybe more) for just one customer?

Are they not of the standard of BC and TC?

[QUOTE=NewImage;1975407]Thanks. Didn't realize it was such a "sausage factory" to coin a phrase. Feel a bit sorry for these girls. Just a question- why is it that they choose to work here and get 50/70 MYR multiplied by 6/7 customers when they can go to BC or TC and get 350/400 (maybe more) for just one customer?

Are they not of the standard of BC and TC?[/QUOTE]The majority of women are somewhat average in looks and have some belly fat or facial flaws which would exclude them being competitive at the BC or TC, although proper cosmetic application would aid them greatly. Many of them wear skimpy outfits and heels which is nice on the eyes.

Lack of English language skills is what keeps the good lookers from working at a foreigner-oriented establishment. Many of the ACE women tend to rattle off a seemingly memorized script to convince me to go upstairs, such as "Me good service, blow job, fucky, you handsome, I lub you, we go now" as they are holding onto your arm and pulling you toward the stairs.

At places like TC and BC there's always a fair number of ladies who end the night with no customers and no income. ACE girls are pretty much guaranteed some sort of daily income due to the high volume of men that mill around. There's always an impressive parade of couples going up and down the stairs to the elevator. These aren't pampered BC princesses, they definitely work hard for the money.

I like ACE because there's no bullshit there. I've never had a girl try to upsell the deal once we get upstairs. I always convey that I expect she will provide a blow job and they always do, albeit a covered one. I don't expect GFE and kissing but it sometimes happens, perhaps because Caucasians are somewhat of a novelty there. All the Vietnamese girls I've had have been pleasant and nice and have tried hard to please me, but the Chinese girls tend to just "go through the motions".

I've heard there have been police raids there to seek out visa overstayers but I have not yet seen one.

I came back to Kl again split into 2 separate occasions, 2 nights at the start of November and 2 at the end of November.

First night. I thought I would try Thai café as I've always been Beach club so wanted to try something new. TC is a very dark place with loud music and is more like a club which can make it difficult to hear or speak with the women. I did think that the girls in TC were better than at BC, also in TC most the customers were Asian, only saw a couple of white or Indian people in there. If you are Asian that is probably better than BC to go as the quality and quantity of girls was high. I was in there for 40 minutes then met one Vietnamese girl about 35 as I was close to the entrance who quoted 400 for the whole night, I said 300 and she accepted which was perfect. She wasn't the best looking but she had a cracking ass and huge tits for an Asian girl, and body wasn't the best. I stayed at Meila hotel which is Girl friendly. Got her back to the hotel and she went quite GFE a lot of kissing and oral. Fucked her in a few positions and was taking ages to cum, so after a bit she said fuck me without the condom. Luckily I was thinking with my head and said no, eventually I came then I just kicked her out as I got a bit scared LOL.

2nd night. Went to BC and there was a lot of girls in there, the usual EE and a few nice girls. Got another Vietnamese girl 22 and she was so cute, very pretty, nice big fake tits and a great ass. Paid her 600 for 2 hours 2 pop. She was again very GFE, a lot of kissing, oral, multiple positions and got very wet. Her name was Lilly and would definitely see her again.

For some reason when I came back in the end of November, Beach club was dead and so was Thai café, I have no idea why. Maybe raids? It was a lot more guys then girls, so I never got any action before I returned home.

Hi guys,

Have a layover tomorrow at KLIA and will be putting up at Sama Sama. While not planning on heading out, any options for a massage at Sama Sama or within KLIA, KLIA 2?

Did RTFF and came across a few without the extras but even that was a long time back.

Any hope?

I will be visiting KL for 4 days from Jan. 1, 2017. WOW! I really, really RTFF from Nov. 27,2015 to present - 41 pages in about 3 weeks (on and off). So, I think I know everything, no need to ask questions. Hope to post a positive report. BTW, in the last three years I visit KL about once every year for 2 to 4 days, primarily to enjoy the local street food. I go to Thailand and the Philippines for heavy mongering.

A few of you mentioned SkyRiver MP and all of you were positive. I love the place, never had a bad experience there. The girls were not clock watchers. I once had a girl that kept chatting with me, arms in arms naked in bed, for over an hour after we sessioned. They kept buzzing the room but she ignored the buzzer. Maybe I could have gotten a second round but at my age, I am a 1-shot guy. They even serve you a compliment meal after you sessioned. I always go for the prawn noodle soup.

Some of you also commented on Bond Health Spa (formerly Saboon) and all of you were negative. I had two experiences there and both were extremely bad. I swore never to go there again. Looks like it has not changed.

I am still looking for the ultimate experience with a real down-to-earth Malay girl. Looks like I have to try [URL]www.mcitygirls.com[/URL]. I grew up in Singapore and Malaysia in the late 60's & early 70's. I would walk through a kampong to & from school and would wave, giggled and flirted with Malay girls but never dared to touch them. Then I left for college in the US and stayed here. It's been one of my fantasies to be with one. I have had many Indonesians but it's not the same. Wish me luck.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;1971266]I tried it. Those who don't know the location please enter into farenhite mall from Pavillion end. Go starlight till end them go down from elevators and take exit. On right hand side you will see this. You have to buzz the bell to get the door open.

Rates were 218 for Thai combo, Laos, Vietnam.

250 for Chinese.

Gals were on 5-8/10.

I chose one from Laos. Kelly.

Quite funny all the time saying England Thailand and wanted some of my brown hairs.

Long 69, DATY CG, rug, super tight..[/QUOTE]Hey man,

Thanks for the info on sky river massage. Very good experience with a Vietnamese girl! I could not for the life of me find anything regarding the 6 star bar. Do you have an address you can provide?

Cheers!

Are LE Meridien and Westin girl friendly?

[QUOTE=TheChump;1978968]Hey man,

Thanks for the info on sky river massage. Very good experience with a Vietnamese girl! I could not for the life of me find anything regarding the 6 star bar. Do you have an address you can provide?

Cheers![/QUOTE]Really getting excited to hit Sky River. Reports good across the board. Don't want to jinx it though! Ha. A shame they don't have pools, but. Oh well. I only have a few days in KL so I'll likely just stick with that. Will report!

[QUOTE=Jake62;1974680]I visit KL regularly, but usually stay in the mid valley area near the mall, which has been quite good.

But I am at Hilton Petaling Jaya this time and wondered if anyone has advice for this hotel and vicinity?[/QUOTE]The Hotel bar is a nice playground. Girls are sitting in groups and you have to attract their attention. Be aware of LBs.

Been reading the forums and are eager to jump right in! I'll be in KL from Dec. 31st till Jan 3rd. If anyone wants to join me or show me how it's done feel free to send me a PM! I'll be down to try karaoke, massage, escort, and / or pick up!

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[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe;1975311]There may be a different arrangement for the Chinese women where they may have "overseers" and work under more restrictive rules.

I would guess there are no rules stopping the Vietnamese from leaving with a customer, but I highly doubt they would do so on the first encounter. Takeout is certainly possible if you were a regular who she likes and trusts. Of course they make their money on high volume of customers so they probably wouldn't venture outside unless you made it financially worthwhile. Some might actually relish the chance to leave behind the tedium of ACE for a few hours with you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input on the Ace / Richmoore setup. For some reason, that place had captivated my imagination, since I starting planning a trip to Asia last year. I had hoped to visit KUL and then go on to BKK. Unfortunately, the long vacation I had planned for last winter did not happen, due to work. When I finally made my initial trip to Asia, I had gotten a minor promotion that limited the time I can now be away from work. So, I did go to Thailand in the last month, but did not make it to Malaysia. But it is interesting what I found about the building by googling the name and reading articles from the local KL media. For example, a story about a police raid where they arrested a large number of girls from the PRC, working illegally.

BTW, is the Richmoore actually a functional, legitimate hotel, a residence or is mostly just a brothel? Google Maps is a superb tool for the monger, and using streetview around the neighborhood I see the Golden Asian Hotel on the Jalan Pudu behind the Richmoore. The only review I could find on the place was a negative review by an Indian guy who said that prostitutes were hanging around inside the place. Hmmmm. Sounds like it could be some interesting lodging. I have to wonder how many other hotels in the area have girls on hand for entertainment the guests.

[QUOTE=TimWong765;1979341]Are LE Meridien and Westin girl friendly?[/QUOTE]Never had any issue bringing a girl back to the Westin.

Dear All,

I'm coming to KL in mid of Feb. I have been before I used to pick up Freelancers from BC, I heard also about the TC. Where is it? What is the rate now for the LT now? With 400-500 MYR I was getting a very nice Vietnamese girl from BC from 2 am - 11 morning with 2-3 shots.

I was staying in concord hotel before now I would like to go for a services flat? Do you think I will have any problem with security to bring different guest all the time? Or better to stay in a hotel? I found around BC a lot of serviced flat with better quality than hotels.

Appreciate your reply.