Jakarta

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2220812]A pimp would want the market rate to go up, not down.[/QUOTE]This point I second whole-heartedly. Simply business logic.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2220811]I shouldn't be talking too much about money spent, because I normally buy the girls multiple drinks and those are expensive. However, I don't want to be paying 2.5 million after buying them 4 or 5 drinks. These girls never even consider the number of drinks you bought them when they ask for money.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I don't bother with all that. I find my quarry, wait for the right moment, take aim and shoot. At a place like BATS 4-5 drinks alone could add up to another 750 K. And frankly, the girl should not be caring about the number of drinks you buy for her. All she should be concerned about is the number of red notes she gets from you.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2220807]Ten years ago, the normal price was 1 million. About 5 years ago, it was 1.5 million and some girls asked for 2 million (I am excluding the scrags, I don't count them). I heard rumors (from the girls) of them getting and asking for 2.5 or 3 million, but I had never experienced it. In the last couple of years the going rate has dropped seemingly due to the lack of guys in town with money relative to years past. Almost any BATS girl these days will gladly take 1.5 and most will take 1 million now. Then again, it depends on how they size you up when they talk to you and the supply and demand that particular night. Normally, if I walk into a place like BATS and it's a sausage fest, I leave and head elsewhere before I even finish my drink.[/QUOTE]I find this logic hard to accept, as it goes against basic principle of economics. But you live there and that counts for something. So I won't argue.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2220807]When I spoke with the CJs chick who said 2.5, I didn't like her vibe. She was about a 7 physically, but she had an attitude. Definitely not that hot in my book nor worth the time spent bargaining. I would have given her 1.3 that night based on her looks alone and the lack of girls in the bar, but no way 2.5. On a normal night where it's a buyers market, I wouldn't have given that same girl a second glance. I will say that her English was excellent and pickings were slim so she likely did find a buyer.[/QUOTE]Yada yada yada. Come on now. We are all adults here.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2220858]
Yada yada yada. Come on now. We are all adults here.[/QUOTE]After that comment, I'm starting to wonder.

My bet is that there isn't an adult guy on this forum who hasn't changed his mind on a girl based on an initial discussion with her. Especially when they try to overvalue themselves right off the bat.

[QUOTE=Mangga;2220846]Thanks for those notes Goferring. Zero English is a big plus for me because I speak fluent Indonesian and that eliminates any bule competition. Though I suspect that in this corner of the market there aren't too many bule buyers! And a 2 hour outcall is just what I'm looking for. I'm over rolling around on some dirty mattress in a hotbox. Do you have any favoured places in central Jakarta?[/QUOTE]You're right, they don't see too many bules so you may find some are fairly timid towards strangers. Making it obvious you can speak BI to them helps settle the nerves somewhat but some still may refuse to go with a foreigner.

I'm no longer a Jakarta resident so can't help with exact locations. If you have time on your side and aren't afraid of the less travelled areas just look for the areas with two or three storey ruko / rukans. Generally one of them is a ++ place where you can just walk inside and see the girls milling around the front office or reception area. If you don't see what you want either leave or ask of they have any one who fits your requirements.

FE, FYI from the HK website today September 6, 2018.

"Adding Pages: Effective January 1, 2016, Extra Visa Pages are no Longer Issued. As of January 1, 2016, the USA Department of State no longer adds visa pages into USA Passports. Previously, USA Passport holders had the option to pay for the insertion of additional 24-page visa inserts when valid passports lacked adequate space for entry or exit visa stamps. The decision to discontinue this service was made to enhance the security of the passport and to abide by international passport standards.

To mitigate the impact on frequent travelers, the Department began issuing 52-page passports to all applicants outside the United States starting October 1, 2014 for no additional cost. Applicants within the United States may choose a 28-page or 52-page book.

Requests for additional 24-page visa inserts will only be accepted until December 31, 2015. Beginning January 1, 2016, applicants in need of additional pages in their valid passports must obtain a new passport."

Before there was something like 60 or 80 charge for pages. And before that, pages were free. Used to have way more free pages than original pages.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2220857]To Wimble.

I just renew my US passport instruct them to added more pages and they did it no fee, I added pages on my old passport 2 yr ago at the US consulate in Hong Kong they did it in 3 HR at no charge not sure where did you go to where they charge you most advanced country is now using the RFID chip to scan US passport.

Don't use stamp anymore.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wimble;2219704]I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just got a new one for the sake of convenience.[/QUOTE]

Some are eager to learn English. I have had luck with some who would come and we usually communicate via text. It can lead to some interesting mistakes. One brought her virgin cousin because of a misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2220877]You're right, they don't see too many bules so you may find some are fairly timid towards strangers. Making it obvious you can speak BI to them helps settle the nerves somewhat but some still may refuse to go with a foreigner.[/QUOTE]

Can someone help me with the choice of these places?

- Which one is the best choice in term of number / beauty of the girls?

- Is there any taking out options?

- What is the difference with Alexis as it is the only place I know well in Jakarta?

- And the main question is where we can find young girls if the price isn't an issue in Jakarta?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2220875]After that comment, I'm starting to wonder.

My bet is that there isn't an adult guy on this forum who hasn't changed his mind on a girl based on an initial discussion with her. Especially when they try to overvalue themselves right off the bat.[/QUOTE]That comment was not for changing your mind. Never mind.

My first couple of days in Jakarta have been quite eventful. The number of tinder likes have been crazy, which is very surprising for me as back home in Mumbai, my luck with tinder has been fairly limited. Last 4-5 months with tinder has helped me get laid only thrice in Mumbai, while within first 24 hours in Jakarta, it happened twice. First chick in 20's came down in the evening, the plan was to go to Starbucks. I jokingly suggested to her to have coffee in my room instead and she like agreed readily. Had a couple of fantastic hours with her, she was wild in the bed. Slept for a while, woke up at 9 pm, started tinder chatting with another one, she was less than a mile away from my hotel. At 11 pm she was at my hotel, picked her up from lobby and another couple of good hours in my room. Never in my life before I had sex 4 times in 6 hours with 2 different hot women and I didn't have to shell out a single dime. Its my first time in Jakarta and I had no clue it was this easy to have ONS in here.

Anyway, yday night went to BATS, liked one chick. She quoted 1 mn for the night, I was not in mood for all night bang so proposed her 700 k for 1 shot, which she happily agreed to. My hotel is 5 minutes from Shangri la, we drove to my hotel in her car. Had a good time overall. Not sure wot to do tonight but seems like Jakarta is one of the best mongering places.

OK, second attempt to post a reply. As of today September 7, 2018 and on the US consulate website in Hong Kong, as per your source. As on January 1, 2016 they stopped issuing additional passport pages. You can go there to get more information. Tired of cutting and pasting.

I remember before then, there was a charge of 60 or 80 bucks. And before that it was free. Google is your friend.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2220857]To Wimble.

I just renew my US passport instruct them to added more pages and they did it no fee, I added pages on my old passport 2 yr ago at the US consulate in Hong Kong they did it in 3 HR at no charge not sure where did you go to where they charge you most advanced country is now using the RFID chip to scan US passport.

Don't use stamp anymore.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wimble;2219704]I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just go a new one for the sake of convenience.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Anyone ever tried the Gives massage place? There is one opposite the Gandaria Mall. Always seems busy with lots of motor bikes outside.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Wimble;2220953]Some are eager to learn English..

It can lead to some interesting mistakes. One brought her virgin cousin because of a misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Sure can.

Try telling a stunner that she is very photogenic and then translating that as her photo is nice but she's ugly in person. 😁.

Not surprisingly that was a very lonely night.

[QUOTE=RohanKhanna;2221086]
Anyway, yday night went to BATS, liked one chick. She quoted 1 mn for the night, I was not in mood for all night bang so proposed her 700 k for 1 shot, which she happily agreed to. [/QUOTE]That may have been the same girl the other guy gave 2 and half million rupiah.

[QUOTE=Wimble;2221124]OK, second attempt to post a reply. As of today September 7, 2018 and on the US consulate website in Hong Kong, as per your source. As on January 1, 2016 they stopped issuing additional passport pages. You can go there to get more information. Tired of cutting and pasting.

I remember before then, there was a charge of 60 or 80 bucks. And before that it was free. Google is your friend.[/QUOTE]You, trying to convince the guy, who thinks that he has a monopoly on wisdom and can't proof anything he claims? ROFLOLMAO!

Well, to be fair, I don't read beyond the first couple pages in these forums. So all the past posts and squabbles are lost to me!! Posting is also tedious because I am moderated so my posts are sometimes dated. LOL.

The passport page information is just dated. I thought important to those of us who travel to our playgrounds to have correct information. I actually thought a senior would have chimed in earlier. The new appointment system is also a PIA. Sometimes, the next appointment is 2-3 weeks away. Another thing to keep tract on the calendar!

[QUOTE=Menteng;2221678]You, trying to convince the guy, who thinks that he has a monopoly on wisdom and can't proof anything he claims? ROFLOLMAO![/QUOTE]

Did anyone else go to BATS last night? That chick in the red dress standing near the stage all night with her tits half hanging out and the big ass may actually have been worth 2.5. I kept hoping for those tits to slip out of that dress, but they never did. When I first arrived, the talent was weak, but later in the night it was pretty good. I had a girl in tow so it didn't matter either way. I didn't think the band was very good though. That's the first time I have been there since they switched bands. The last one was excellent, this one is meh.

There was an interesting argument between an Indonesian girl and the BATS management outside the front door as we were leaving. I'm not sure what was going on, but she was really going after that manager. Pretty good looking chick who spoke great English. She would have been a top 5 looker in the bar had they let her in. The manager kept telling her "we don't need your money".

Another thing I found entertaining was a couple of guys out front of BATS waiting on a taxi. The one guy was in his 20's and the other in his 30's. Neither had a girl as they were leaving and the guy in his 30's was berating the other guy for not liking any of the girls, telling him he couldn't even get laid in a *****house. I was like that young guy when I first arrived in Jakarta.