Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1841620]I would be a bit wary about taking girls recommended by a mamasan unless you know and trust the mamasan very well.

[/QUOTE]Addict must have about 100 girls on their books. The mamasan can't be expected to know the qualities of each one. She couldn't even tell me who does and doesn't have a baby so how is she going to give advice on more intricate details like service standards? It reminds me of shopping in a department store where the assistant will just randomly pull stuff out and present it to you.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1841670]I hate to break it to you but you got scammed. There is no foreigner surcharge at Mango. In fact the majority of the customers are foreigners so I would be wondering about who wouldn't pay the foreigner sur charge. In fact I don't think Thai customers are even permitted or would even want to go to Mango. I have been there many times so I kind of doubt the accuracy of this report.[/QUOTE]Would it be A+ service surcharge then? I paid 2400 for the hour, which I found too expensive. Not going to go there again.

[QUOTE=HotShaneHot;1841306]Mmm I was just looking at the internet site of Candy Massage it has the same photos as you post.

Do you Manage there internet site too.[/QUOTE]I take the pics with the phone of mamasan herself. (I don't want any pics on my phone as I have a suspicious GF). Mamasan chooses the ones she likes, and sends to me (which I delete from my chats immediately after posting in this forum) what she does with the pics is absolutely her business. You must have noticed, I usually post them in this forum, much before she posts on her website. Another male friend of hers manages that website. I would be too hassled to do all that and I am frankly a noob at doing all those stuff.

Hope you enjoyed my posts. What else would you like to know.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1841795]I take the pics with the phone of mamasan herself. (I don't want any pics on my phone as I have a suspicious GF). Mamasan chooses the ones she likes, and sends to me (which I delete from my chats immediately after posting in this forum) what she does with the pics is absolutely her business. You must have noticed, I usually post them in this forum, much before she posts on her website. Another male friend of hers manages that website. I would be too hassled to do all that and I am frankly a noob at doing all those stuff.

Hope you enjoyed my posts. What else would you like to know.[/QUOTE]I suppose I could figure this out by going to the website and scrutinizing the pictures (I have glanced at them) but are they photoshopped or posted as taken without processing?

In preparation of this year's BKK and SEA trip, probably my last one (I am getting too old for this game) I did some research on DIA and Craiglist via email and Line, resulting in 6 surprisingly positive and very promising contacts. All ready, willing, able and on call to meet on short notice.

I have been in BKK for over 4 weeks now, but so far have not had time, opportunity but above all no wish to activate any of these new contacts.
Been busy every night, so that I am longing for a good nights uninterrupted sleep, without that BBJbBF (BBJ before Breakfast) and without having been delightfully wakened and ravished in the night by the GFE / LBFM beside me, not one of the new ones, but all from my previous years' tried and proven 'stock'.

As I have written before, I am not a bar or GoGo goer, but prefer to mine the resources hiding in the (semi-) legit MPs.
Just walk Soi 22,23, 33 or elsewhere, pick an MP-lady you fancy, talk to her a little to see if she can communicate in English and book a foot massage. If you click, upgrade to an oil massage (in a private room where you are naked to break the ice) and you will find she is about 28-35, has a kid, has been separated from her husband / BF for 3-10 years and hasn't had sex for almost as long.

You can try-before-you-buy in the MP, though the really legit shops, while allowing HJs, don't officially condone BJ or -god forbid- anything MORE. Anything more will have to take place at your hotel, which is more comfortable anyway.
In this simple way, I have discovered several really delightful ladies, who, having been deprived of a man's TLC, basic curtesy and attention for years, are ready and eager to repay hundred fold, just for being nice to them.
These women are NOT the oily / soapy / Soi Cowboy gold-digging prostitutes! They are mothers, mostly from Isaan, struggling to make a living while supporting their families, pent-up in their dreary MP shops 6 days a week fom 10 am until midnight. Treat them like human beings and they will eat out of you hand. They have lots of love to give in return.

I shall describe 3 of these typical gold nuggets,(though #2 clearly does not fit into that category). Don't expect any voyeuristic details, that is just not my style.

For the sake of readability, I'll split the report into 2 parts.

If you don't like what and how I write, just ignore it.

Lady #1.

Not a model type, close to the expiration date, fantastic DF-kisser, demands sex whenever time and surroundings permit.
Used to work at a then-legit shop, but stopped when the shop policy changed to include HJ and more, is now back in Isaan.
When I wrote her I was coming to BKK, she bought an airfare from her savings to surprise me! Luckily, I was able to accommodate her and didn't regret it.
She is totally unassuming but eager to try anything new, including some of my fetishes and perversities.

One night after dinner she wanted to see Soi Cowboy. We started at Crazy House, packed as usual, but left after one drink. She found the place boring. There is a music bar at the Asoke end of SC (I wrote about it recently), with a good live band and a great atmosphere, where we danced until I just about dropped dead. No bumbum that night, but what a BBJbBF and much more in the morning!

She stayed with me for 3 nights. I paid her ticket, we went 'shopping' but she would not take any money, not even as a 'gift'.

In the end, she wore me out sexually, I badly needed a rest, and a change of venue, so had to plead 'prior other commitments'.
Contact details: NA, since she is out of the business.
WIR? Yes, sure, next year maybe.

Lady #2.

Very much a model type with nice D's, so clearly no Twiggy.
We have known each other for 4 years, have become really good friends and fuck buddies. Why she would choose me, a man who could easily be her grandfather, I have no idea.

Her passions used to be 1. Sex, and 2. Good food. Now her preferences have changed: 1. Good food, then 2. Sex. She could lose 10 kg, but her ass is one to drool over, apart from other exciting uses.
She has a full university degree but does not practice her profession. Speaks fully conversational English and is a shrewd businesswoman with a vision.

In need of money to support her kid and family, she started wh*r*ng in a Tulip-type PSE shop, where we originally met.
At the same time she swore to herself and later to me, that by the time she turned 30, she would stop selling her body.
She has just turned 30 and now manages and actually OWNS one of the premier Tulip-type oilies.

In the beginning, she worked there just like her other ladies, but had to stop, because quote: "the customers always wanted only me and not my ladies".

She still has old customers / friends who must like her as much as I do. She knows about my other ladies and we have laughs exchanging experiences (strictly discreet, no details).

We just spent 3 days at the seaside, great fun.

I will not give any more details because she is well known and I am sure some of you will have guessed her identity already.

WIR? Yes, definitely.

[QUOTE=DaddySan;1841828]
These women are NOT the oily / soapy / Soi Cowboy gold-digging prostitutes! [/QUOTE]I thought it was going to be a really nice report and it was. Pity you had to spoil it a bit with snide comment about P4 Ps in general. I think you should have meant that the regular hookers were not looking for a nice guy so desperately. "Gold-digging" is a bit rich, unless its a comment on what funds you have to spend. I detect only a small percentage of the regular hookers are actually making big money and the other 90% are struggling, with not enough customers, or don't work often enough, many reasons.

Was #2 originally a gold-digger?

Perhaps all you really mean is that you can have fun with girls that do not require you financial support any longer.

For what it's worth, AssLover945 has been around for a while, and I'm 100% certain he has no business interests in the oilies. It's a bit annoying when such criticism comes from a person who needs to ask for a map to find Sukhumwit Soi 24/1 (and posts a lot of nude pics, but no specifics on how to find girls in them).

In any case, new info, especially with photos, is much appreciated. One question: do Candy girls Ammy (and the one before, what's her name) do A+? If yes, they're definitely on my list to try.

At Candy, I only tried Guitar so far, and she provided great service (A+ included).

[QUOTE=DaddySan;1841828]...These women are NOT the oily / soapy / Soi Cowboy gold-digging prostitutes!...[/QUOTE]Sorry, my friend but I call BS. It appears to me that these women are prostitutes as well, since you are most likely giving them money in exchange of their presence in your hotel room, not much different from the other girls. And not all the oily / soapy / GoGo girls are gold-digging prostitutes. You find those back home in the US.

[QUOTE=Amorbasha;1841780]Would it be A+ service surcharge then? [/QUOTE]No A+ surcharge at Mango nor in other PSE Oils. Price for 1 HR is 1. 500 + 400, this price included A+ service if the girl provide it.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1841891]No A+ surcharge at Mango nor in other PSE Oils. Price for 1 HR is 1. 500 + 400, this price included A+ service if the girl provide it.[/QUOTE]That is the rule, but unless they have changed it Bamboo charges an extra 500 baht for A+, which has lost them some business (including mine given none of the other PSE shops do this). Also, at most oilies (to complete the price scheme) 90 minutes is 600 baht plus 1,500 and two hours is 800 baht plus 1,500. Some of us may do some minor tipping on top of this with good service, maybe 300 baht or 500 at the most, but it is not necessary. However, if I do two hours and cum twice I usually figure the girl has earned something above the standard 1,500 baht "girl's fee" which does not vary from the one-hour to the two-hour session.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1841885]Sorry, my friend but I call BS. It appears to me that these women are prostitutes as well, since you are most likely giving them money in exchange of their presence in your hotel room, not much different from the other girls. And not all the oily / soapy / GoGo girls are gold-digging prostitutes. You find those back home in the US.[/QUOTE]Indeed, my experience over the course of the last thirteen or more years at the PSE oilies suggests the girls who work there are the opposite of gold-digging. I never have had any want anything from me other than their standard fee. In fact, if I tip on top of the standard fee it is not because they have asked; they don't, at least not in my experience.

And my experiences with these girls include many sessions on-site as well as quite a few in my hotel.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1841899]That is the rule, but unless they have changed it Bamboo charges an extra 500 baht. [/QUOTE]I know about A+ surcharge in Bamboo (it is also clearly written on their website) and I never been there. Anyway I never heard that Mango, Cherry, Snow Wite, Tulip, ecc. Have A+ surcharge.

Maybe they change the rule at Mango, I don't know everything is possible, if yes I'll avoid Mango.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1841904]I know about A+ surcharge in Bamboo (it is also clearly written on their website) and I never been there. Anyway I never heard that Mango, Cherry, Snow Wite, Tulip, ecc. Have A+ surcharge.

Maybe they change the rule at Mango, I don't know everything is possible, if yes I'll avoid Mango.[/QUOTE]No, my post simply was responding to that portion of yours that stated there was no surcharge for A+ at the PSE oilies. Given Bamboo is a PSE oily, I only mentioned that it, i.e., Bamboo, does have such a surcharge unless they recently removed it. I am unaware of any of the other places you mention, including Mango, having an A+ surcharge.

[QUOTE=Amorbasha;1841780]Would it be A+ service surcharge then? I paid 2400 for the hour, which I found too expensive. Not going to go there again.[/QUOTE]There is no A + service charge at Mango. Many ladies have offered A+ to me with no talk of service charge. Just as I thought! Look, it's ok to write a bad review but no need to lie about some surcharge that does not exist.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1841670]I hate to break it to you but you got scammed. There is no foreigner surcharge at Mango. In fact the majority of the customers are foreigners so I would be wondering about who wouldn't pay the foreigner sur charge. In fact I don't think Thai customers are even permitted or would even want to go to Mango. I have been there many times so I kind of doubt the accuracy of this report.[/QUOTE]On one occasion when I visited Tulip there was a Thai man at the counter asking if he could look at the girls. The woman behind the counter told him there were no girls there then. As I was considering whether to leave, the Thai man left and the woman behind the counter told me of course there were girls there, but they didn't take Thai customers (actually she also added some choice words about her opinion of Thai men).

I have always assumed most, if not all, the PSE oilies follow the same rule, for whatever reason (I can think of a few). In any event, I have never seen a Thai customer in any of them (other than the one at Tulip who was rejected).

So the notion of a foreigner surcharge would make no sense at these places.