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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1462606]* The argument can be good for the board.[/QUOTE]Well, some people here seem to be really into the subject so maybe you're right. Personally I find it tedious and boring but then I might be in a minority. After a few decades here I just can't get very worked up about what some other particular person might pay or not pay.

Anyhow it's such a perennial topic that maybe someone should start a dedicated 'Don't overpay and spoil it for the rest of us' forum where people could talk about it to their heart's content and free up the rest of these forums for more interesting subjects.

Whats the market rate of a non live in housekeeper now a days in AC? Where do you go about finding one and service offices for that? I need a lady to come to my house cook, clean, and do laundry 4-5 days a week or so Day shift only when I move over there next yr. I don; t want a young girl either needs to be 45+ so she will work. Thanks for any info guys

[QUOTE=FLT09;1462886]Let's be honest, the service being offered to us is not one we would ever offer ourselves.[/QUOTE]To be honest... I'd gladly offer the service if I had women from near and far paying me. And a handsome tip afterwards too?!? Woohoo! Sign me up!

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1462960]Whats the market rate of a non live in housekeeper now a days in AC? Where do you go about finding one and service offices for that? I need a lady to come to my house cook, clean, and do laundry 4-5 days a week or so Day shift only when I move over there next yr. I don; t want a young girl either needs to be 45+ so she will work. Thanks for any info guys[/QUOTE]When I was in Makati for 90 days in late 2011 I paid $85 a month for those services. I had a girl I met find me someone trust worthy. If bar fines and one week millionaire tips in AC are anything to go by the price should now be something like $1000 a month.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1462989]. the price should now be something like $1000 a month.[/QUOTE]Plus tip. And money for the trike.

[QUOTE=Betong; 1462900]Well, some people here seem to be really into the subject so maybe you're right. Personally I find it tedious and boring but then I might be in a minority. After a few decades here I just can't get very worked up about what some other particular person might pay or not pay.

Anyhow it's such a perennial topic that maybe someone should start a dedicated 'Don't overpay and spoil it for the rest of us' forum where people could talk about it to their heart's content and free up the rest of these forums for more interesting subjects.[/QUOTE]You're right, and even it you could change every westerner (which is impossible because 99. 99% aren't going to read these forums in the first place) you're not going to impact the Koreans or Japanese. I have to laugh on the Bangkok forums when this issue comes up, with a market that probably literally has perhaps 100, 000 plus P4P transactions every single day, if not more, and they think these lectures will matter? The fact is the customers are going to do what they want to do.

[QUOTE=FLT09;1462886]I have been reading this discussion and I think this is the major difference between people who don't monger as frequently compared to those who do. People who happily pay more and tip big don't see the effects because they are not around long enough. It is their money and they are free to do what they want, but to deny it has an affect on the market is far reaching in my opinion. It is definitely a contributing factor, along with others.[/QUOTE]They are free to do what they want? Really? Then why constantly lecture them on how to spend their funds?

[QUOTE=Western787;1463046]They are free to do what they want? Really? Then why constantly lecture them on how to spend their funds?[/QUOTE]Considering that was the first thing I said on the matter, I wouldn't say I was lecturing anyone. I was just stating my opinion, which in that quote, was that to say it has no affect is incorrect. I don't think I said anything about how anyone should spend their own money.

FLT.

[QUOTE=Western787;1463046]They are free to do what they want? Really? Then why constantly lecture them on how to spend their funds?[/QUOTE]Already addressed on this forum, on this very page in fact: "Yes yes, some guys will always be assholes who think flaunting money gets them some kind of respect. I've seen enough Mercedes key chains to know that. I write for the consideration of the many others who fall in the middle of the road. Especially the newbies who might read the board and then think giving 100% or 500% tips is the norm. It's not."

Not everyone is interested in spending more money than they have to. Most are not, which is why they travel half way around the world for pussy when it's available at a higher price at home.

Yes, people are free to do what they want. My nephew is free to drive his car off a bridge and into the depths of a river if he wants. Doesn't mean I won't advise him against it.

The logic (or lack of it) on this board is sometimes frightening.

Coming to Angeles. Any places good for ladies (not lady boys) with fake boobs? I luv those things.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1462871]Not surprised that you have this mentality.[/QUOTE]RR, you don't know any more about me than you do about this 'Market'. You can probably search through ISG and USASG and find 10,000 posts with people complaining about others who 'overpay'. After so many posts you would think people like you would be able to figure out you will never change anything. The reason you won't change anything is because I do what I want, period (as do others). You dictate nothing in my life; I dictate everything; that's my 'mentality'. If you don't like the way I live my life, that's just too bad. I'm not living it for you; get over it or get out of the way.

If you really want to change my spending habits, I have some suggestions for you;

1. Got to DTW and remove all the Business Class seating from Flight 629. Since I won't fly First Class, I'll be forced to sit in Economy.

2. Go to the ABC Hotel and board up the Deluxe Penthouse Suite. I won't rent the Presidential Suite without photos and since I've been waiting for Icee to send me pics for over a year and doubt I'll ever get them, I'll be forced to rent a Standard Suite. Better yet, seeing as how the ABC is one of the higher priced hotels in AC, just board the entire thing up. That will force me to stay at a cheaper hotel. I like the ABC but you are welcome to board up any hotel you feel is too expensive for the rest of us.

3. Go to every go-go bar in AC, tell them you are with the vagina control board and you are there to set pricing and outlaw tips. There are a few churches in Balibago that you can stop in and leave a fart if you care to; it will go over just as well.

Let me know when you achieve all of the above (fart in church excluded). If you want to take this a bit further, try dictating what kind of car I drive, what size house I am allowed to live in, and how much I can spend on suits. Or, you can save time by just voting for Obama's third term in a few years; he's already on a path to control everything in my life as well. With your liberal belief you can dictate how other people live their lives, my guess is you've voted for him 4 or 5 times already.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1463062]I write for the consideration of the many others who fall in the middle of the road.[/QUOTE]Middle of the road, huh? That's like saying you are not a Cheap Charlie. So if a genuine Cheap Charlie walks up to you and says, 'stop it you fool, you're overpaying and ruining it for the rest of us', what are you going to do? That was a rhetorical question so please don't answer. I would expect you to continue to live your life as you have been for some time and ignore the opinion of anyone who spends less than you do, just as I will continue to ignore your suggestions as well. Forever.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1463062]The logic (or lack of it) on this board is sometimes frightening.[/QUOTE]Yes, let's all use your 'logic' and believe we can change the spending habits of others despite having failed to do so since the dawn of time.

To anyone else reading this post; I don't care if you're a Cheap Charlie or a billionaire who enjoys papering the walls with $100 bills. Go to AC or any other sporting venue and live life as you want to live, everyone else be damned, including myself.

[QUOTE=FLT09; 1463050]Considering that was the first thing I said on the matter, I wouldn't say I was lecturing anyone. I was just stating my opinion, which in that quote, was that to say it has no affect is incorrect. I don't think I said anything about how anyone should spend their own money.

FLT.[/QUOTE]If one takes a bucket full of water out of the ocean, you may actually hold back the tides by a slight amount somewhere on earth, but the larger effort is always going to be futile

[QUOTE=Msukc;1463131]Coming to Angeles. Any places good for ladies (not lady boys) with fake boobs? I luv those things.[/QUOTE]I didn't see a lot of this when I was there and I don't remember any place specializing in it. I would say just look around and if you see one that fits your fancy go from there.

[QUOTE=Western787;1463194]If one takes a bucket full of water out of the ocean, you may actually hold back the tides by a slight amount somewhere on earth, but the larger effort is always going to be futile[/QUOTE]If everyone does their part I think it would be much more effective than your ocean analogy. Granted you can not reach everyone by posting here in the forum but how do you know somebody isn't saying the same thing on an Asian forum.

On a smaller scale I think a girl being told no tip by one guy will affect her expectations for the next just like a guy over tipping would affect it in the opposite way.

[QUOTE=Msukc;1463131]Coming to Angeles. Any places good for ladies (not lady boys) with fake boobs? I luv those things.[/QUOTE]Not too many of those in AC. Better bet is Bangkok.

I've seen one in Tropix and one in Atlantis. I remember them because it's so rare.

You don't have to worry about ladyboys. They're on the streets and completely obvious.